Download disaster

I have just tried to download “suse 11.0”. I did not install it.

My computer was open in Windows XP Pro, using the Firefox browser & Bit Torrent. When I came back to the computer at the end of the download the screen was blank.

I have completely lost access to the computer. When I try to restart the computer ticks for a long time then shows “A disk read error occurred Press Ctrl-Alt-Del to restart.” all that does is go through the same routine and comes back to the error message.

I do have another computer running Win XP Pro.

sounds like a dying hard drive. run the manufacturers disk utility & see what happens

Andy

no offense intended: but, i wonder if you were downloading (say) Adobe Photoshop
when your screen went blank would you go to the Adobe forum and ask for help?

i guess that is another way of me saying that your problem sounds like a
hardware failure…and it has nothing to do with what was being downloaded while
you were away…well, you said yourself that you had not installed Linux, and
apparently didn’t even get a chance to burn a Linux CD/DVD…nope, this is not a
Linux problem…

i wonder how old the hard drive is and if maybe it was close to full when you
began the download? i’ve noticed more and more that hard drives just don’t last
as long as they used to…(i have a 300 MB drive from '94 that worked the last
time i tried it…but, one i bought in 2002 has already died…if YOURs is out
lived it warranty period, you bought smart…if it didn’t tell’em to give you a
fresh replacement…if it is broke, as i expect…

the disk read error is coming from the guts of XP (the instruction to “Press
Ctrl-Alt-Del to restart” is at least as old as MS-DOS version 5, from 1992)…

perhaps there are some XP Gurus here to help you…go further in regaining
control of that machine using XP…but, i guess you have to try these:

  • check the cable connecting the hard drive to the motherboard (un-hook both
    ends and then reinsert…this ‘swipes’ the contacts and MAY again give a good
    connection)…if this is the first time you have opened the case: UNPLUG IT!
    once opened suck/blow out all the dust bunnies, cat hairs and chicken bones with
    the PLASTIC tipped end of a vac…

  • use some disk checking utilities (maybe some are available on the original
    XP install disk…certainly they ARE available on that SUSE install disk, but i
    guess it is now locked on a dead (or not now breathing) hard drive…and, there
    are many available which can be downloaded and burned to a CD, DVD or even an
    old 3.5 floppy…probably the best (imo) is tomsrtbt <http://www.toms.net/rb/>
    but it won’t be much use to you if this is your first trip to LinuxLand…

  • buy/install a new hard drive…use your other XP machine to download the
    install DVD (not Live CD…do NOT install from a Live CD)

please hear this: WELCOME to Linux in general and SuSE in particular…we will
help you get it running…but, i do not think we can repair that hard drive
from afar…ymmv.

when you get that old box working again, and BEFORE you burn the install DVD,
read this carefully: http://tinyurl.com/3vwrzl

oh, by the way…how old is that machine? I ask because if it just barely runs
XP you might (i think you WILL) find it kind’a over taxed trying to run a newer
than Vista (and more capable) OS on an antique (say from before ~2004) box…


DenverD (Linux Counter 282315) via NNTP crafted by Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 in KDE
3.5.7 under SUSE Linux 10.3 2.6.22.18-0.2-default #1 SMP i686 athlon

As reading that in cannot hold back in telling you I run a 2001 (or was it 2002?) PowerBook with 667 MHz and it works like a charm. Gnome though, not KDE. :slight_smile:

Thanks to you all for the quick responses.

The computer dates from 2004. It is a Toshiba laptop, hasn’t given a moment’s trouble up to now.

I was downloading Linux so that I can try it on a 2002 Dell desktop running, currently, ME. That machine is not connected to the Internet.

The Toshiba is not short of any horsepower: 40GB of drive space, 1GB RAM and a P4 2.8. Must just be coincidence that the drive died during the download.

I have never tried Linux before but I run Win XP Pro on a Dell 8300 and I have a Macbook.

I will try a rebuild from the original disks. Data loss is not an issue, we have no data on the inbuilt hard drives but the software reload is going to be a pain.

Computers are fun?

> As reading that in cannot hold back in telling you I run a 2001 (or was
> it 2002?) PowerBook with 667 MHz and it works like a charm. Gnome
> though, not KDE. :slight_smile:

good to know!

it is just that i’m a little sensitive (maybe more than a little over sensitive)
to folks who come here with a bucket full of bad mouth when they find that they
can’t get SUSE 11.0/KDE4.0 running as good on their old Win-98 (a PII/III w/128
mb RAM) machine as XP runs on their new machine…

oh, and yours is both not-KDE and not-Intel, right?


DenverD (Linux Counter 282315) via NNTP crafted by Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 in KDE
3.5.7 under SUSE Linux 10.3 2.6.22.18-0.2-default #1 SMP i686 athlon

> I was downloading Linux so that I can try it on a 2002 Dell desktop
> running, currently, ME. That machine is not connected to the Internet.

almost two years ago tried to load SUSE 10.2 on a friends box that was happy
with ME (well, slow) and wound up buying her a no-name/no-OS box…seemed
simpler than upgrading ram, hard drive space, etc on the old one…

for the life of me i’m unable to find the minimum recommended ram/cpu speed and
etc for SUSE 11.0 with KDE or Gnome…ANYONE have that…before DMB777 tries
and is (maybe) disappointed??

> Computers are fun?

you bet! and sometimes challenging too…


DenverD (Linux Counter 282315) via NNTP crafted by Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 in KDE
3.5.7 under SUSE Linux 10.3 2.6.22.18-0.2-default #1 SMP i686 athlon

Right, and both making me happy grin

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:29:03 GMT
DenverD <spam.trap@Texan.dk> wrote:

> for the life of me i’m unable to find the minimum recommended ram/cpu speed
> and etc for SUSE 11.0 with KDE or Gnome…ANYONE have that…before DMB777
> tries and is (maybe) disappointed??

I’ve now installed openSuSE 11.0 on a Cyrix 266Mhz with 384MB of ram, 7.5GB
hard drive, using SIS chipset and video. (~510 bogomips)

The user WAS running XP on it, so I know he has a lot of patience. {Grin}

Ticks along quite nicely in KDE 3.5.9, no 3D, with most of the shading effects
and fade-in popups disabled.

It’s being used in the security office of the local airport to look up flight
times and weather. (and solitaire, surfing, etc)

Owner is quite pleased with it, very impressed. Now wants a live DVD to try
it out on his home machine.

Slowly I build my army!! {Evil Laugh} And we’ll put frickin’ lasers on it
too!!

Loni

As a postscript, I DID install OS11.0 on a 13" dual usb iBook. 400Mhz PPC
processor, 128MB ram, 12GB drive… bogomips of 26. (twenty six!!)

It’s usable… but it’s like computing in slow motion to me… you can WATCH
windows being drawn. And the boot information? First time I’ve REALLY seen
it besides from dmesg or /var/log/boot.msg… you could watch it scroll by!


L R Nix
lornix@lornix.com