downgraded my kernel back to ...7-4?

I’m installed for the 11.1-beta/RC cycle.

Maybe a week ago, I saw a major upgrade that took a couple
of hours to download and install…had seemingly EVERYTHING
it it being upgraded. My kernel was then 2.6.27.7-8-default
after that.

So, then maybe a day or two ago, it wanted to DOWNGRADE
a decent-sized list of packages, and along with that, it has now
DOWNGRADED my kernel (back) to 2.6.27.7-4-default

Did anyone else experience this? If this was by design,
is there an explanation as to why this is happening?

For one - the 2.6.27.7-8 kernel got on the update repo before it was ready for prime-time
It isn’t there any more

Explanation is simple, as it was stated in Tech News on forums (i think) they had to rebuild everything for the GM edition. Something was broken thus there is no 4.4 kernel (i mean the end of that kernel and that’s why there was the absence of the 7.8 kernel source). I got 4.1 right now and i had previously 7.8 and 4.4 available but fortunately someone else updated it before me and i knew it was screwed rotfl! I would want to see the release moved a bit if it would mean it would get a bit more perfect rotfl!

I figured as much.

All this massive churning of updates and now a premature release
is a bit unsettling. (Yeah, I know…it’s a beta.) But, I’ve been thru
beta cycles on more than a few other Linux distros, and this
sort of stuff just doesn’t seem very well engineered.

And, ditto for the KDE 4.1.3 repo behavior, under 11.0. In that case,
there is WAY too much churning…massive updates every 3rd or 4th DAY.
And, 98-percent of the time, I can never see any distinguishable
diff or improvement.

[In contrast, I’ve got KDE 4.1.3 installed under both MEPIS and Sidux,
which are Debian-based, and they only bother you with a KDE-update
maybe every MONTH or two, which is the right philosophy.]

More and more, I’m starting to feel that some of SUSE’s ways of
doing things is very ad-hoc, with little thought for the user-community.

openSUSE is slowly slipping down my list of Linux distros…it has
LOTS of users and seemingly a large staff of engineers and
support folks (like Ubuntu does), yet the quality and user experience
is definitely second-rate.

Hard to believe what a great job the single Mepis developer, Warren,
does, and what a nice support job that their forums do! Now, if
openSUSE could just build a distro as nice as that, all their expenditure
in engineering and marketing could be rationalized. But, that just
doesn’t seem to be happening, from where I sit.

[Hmmm…now that I seem to be airing my feelings, I’ll also add that
openSUSE 11.0’s wifi-support and network-manager code is also
really second-rate compared to other distros. And, since networking
and ease of access to Internet is crucial, that ends up being more
of a negative effect than one might think. >:( ]

My 2-cents…

Dave

Hey cookdav,
what you want is a stable backports repo like ubuntu has. But with opensuse 11.0 and kde4 you had the developing repo activated. As in sidux you get the whole package updated even if only the maintainer email changed (look at the Changelog pressing C in aptitude (sidux))

What can be critisized: Wouldn’t it be possible to have an excluding feature at the openSUSE build service that big packages like “oxygen-icons” do not
auto-build with a higher version number?

Ralph

cookdav wrote:

>
> dale14846;1906470 Wrote:
>> For one - the 2.6.27.7-8 kernel got on the update repo before it was
>> ready for prime-time
>> It isn’t there any more
>
> I figured as much.
>
> All this massive churning of updates and now a premature release
> is a bit unsettling. (Yeah, I know…it’s a beta.) But, I’ve been
> thru
> beta cycles on more than a few other Linux distros, and this
> sort of stuff just doesn’t seem very well engineered.
>
> And, ditto for the KDE 4.1.3 repo behavior, under 11.0. In that case,
> there is WAY too much churning…massive updates every 3rd or 4th DAY.
> And, 98-percent of the time, I can never see any distinguishable
> diff or improvement.
>
> [In contrast, I’ve got KDE 4.1.3 installed under both MEPIS and Sidux,
> which are Debian-based, and they only bother you with a KDE-update
> maybe every MONTH or two, which is the right philosophy.]
>
> More and more, I’m starting to feel that some of SUSE’s ways of
> doing things is very ad-hoc, with little thought for the
> user-community.
>
> openSUSE is slowly slipping down my list of Linux distros…it has
> LOTS of users and seemingly a large staff of engineers and
> support folks (like Ubuntu does), yet the quality and user experience
> is definitely second-rate.
>
> Hard to believe what a great job the single Mepis developer, Warren,
> does, and what a nice support job that their forums do! Now, if
> openSUSE could just build a distro as nice as that, all their
> expenditure
> in engineering and marketing could be rationalized. But, that just
> doesn’t seem to be happening, from where I sit.
>
> [Hmmm…now that I seem to be airing my feelings, I’ll also add that
> openSUSE 11.0’s wifi-support and network-manager code is also
> really second-rate compared to other distros. And, since networking
> and ease of access to Internet is crucial, that ends up being more
> of a negative effect than one might think. >:( ]
>
> My 2-cents…
>
> Dave
>
>