Don't know how to rearrange the partition like this

I’d like to make room to install openSUSE. But I don’t know if it’s possible to give space from “G” to “C” in this situation. I’d like to cut 20 G from “G” to “C”.

If it’s doable would you tell the steps…

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/4945/captureyts.jpg

That looks like some next to useless windows disk info

Show us it in Gparted and then we’ll be talking

But the answer is probably No to your question

AFAIK, you need to reduce the NTFS partition (or one of them) to make room for any Linux partition. Moving it from G to C doesn’t seem to make sense. This needs to be done in Windows. There should be tools like PartionMagic or something. Sorry, I can’t be of much help there. When you have made space, the OS installer will check the existing partitions and come up with a proposal. I think It can also delete and reformat NTFS partitions to make room. Backup of any important data before installing is recommended.

On 2013-05-09, bonedriven <bonedriven@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
>
> I’d like to make room to install openSUSE. But I don’t know if it’s
> possible to give space from “G” to “C” in this situation. I’d like to
> cut 20 G from “G” to “C”.

The answer indeed is probably no since G' and C’ are likely to located at the opposite ends of your hard drive. But
without having a clue of your partition arrangement, it is impossible to tell for sure.

Of course you can resize and rearrange partitions withing Windows using Control Panel -> Administrative Tools ->
Computer Management -> Disk Management, and right-clickling on the relevant partition. A command line version (DISKPART)
is also available and much more capable. But I wouldn’t suggest you ask how to use either Windows utility on a Linux
forum; you’re likely to motivate forum members to offer suggestions only if you use a Linux partitioner such as gparted.

But I think the main problem is not the position of the partition but the type, as I can move space from “G” to “F” then to “D”, which is adjacent to “C”.

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/4208/partitionl.png

I can’t see why you want to shrink sda7 to give to sda1

Backup > Defrag then:
Just shrink sda7 to make free space sufficient for openSUSE
Create logical partitions in that free space and install

Otherwise > Backup and completely re-do that partitioning

Isn’t that you can only install an OS on a primary partition?

Or it’s just I’ve read too many tutorials telling you how to shrink “C” to dual boot linux, which got me into a illusion that you must install the OS only on a primary partition?

He already has 4 partitions can’t add any more you got to get rid of one of them even to add an extended. But again we are not seeing good information since it is coming from .Windows and Windows does not give a complete picture.

openSUSE can install into logical partitions. It’s commonly done.

Comment #5 shows the openSUSE partitioner data. The disk has one primary and one extended partition. The extended partition has three logical partitions.

Sorry missed that if there is an extended just shrink the partition that is alread ther leave at least 30 gig and install as logical in that space.

On 2013-05-09 21:06, crmrhm wrote:
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> bonedriven;2555391 Wrote:
>> Isn’t that you can only install an OS on a primary partition?
>>
>> Or it’s just I’ve read too many tutorials telling you how to shrink “C”
>> to dual boot linux, which got me into a illusion that you must install
>> the OS only on a primary partition?
>
> openSUSE can install into logical partitions. It’s commonly done.

Yes, but for doing that you need to install GRUB into one of the
primaries, commonly the extended partition, which is also a primary. Or
install GRUB into the MBR.

It is not that you need a primary partition to install an operating
system, you need it for a good boot manager; then that one boots
anything from anywhere.

Another method was to install a small primary partition, say 200 MB, on
which grub is installed (and /boot), and then Linux goes anywhere.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)

An Extended partition is counted as a Primary FYI

You can install openSUSE as I describe in a Logical, no problem

I thought GRUB must be installed on MBR if one wants to dual boot in a same hard disk. So by reading what you say, I come to an understanding that if grub is installed on a primary partition, one can almost do what he likes while leaving MBR alone?

Thanks for all the input. Will do more reading regarding Grub…

Grub needs to be on the MBR
I manually manage grub settings at install to look like this

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10573557/12.3_install_complete/12.3_install/13.png

You get there from the install summary screen and click the Booting title
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10573557/12.3_install_complete/12.3_install/12.png

On 2013-05-10, bonedriven <bonedriven@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
> Thanks for all the input. Will do more reading regarding Grub…

You may find the following helpful:

http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Basics_of_partitions,_filesystems,_mount_points
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Partitioning
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:All_about_GRUB

On 2013-05-10 11:36, bonedriven wrote:

> I thought GRUB must be installed on MBR if one wants to dual boot in a
> same hard disk. So by reading what you say, I come to an understanding
> that if grub is installed on a primary partition, one can almost do what
> he likes while leaving MBR alone?

Right.

Some people prefer having grub on the MBR, some people don’t. Each
method has problems and advantages.

With Windows involved I prefer to leave the MBR to Windows. Then I tell
Yast to mark the extended partition as bootable, and install grub there.
The advantage is that by marking the Windows partition as bootable
again, Windows is totally ignorant of Grub existence and you can apply
the service packs. If grub is in the MBR, Windows 7 refuses to apply
service packs. Once applied, you change the bootable partition mark and
grub works again.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)

On 2013-05-11 04:43, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2013-05-10 11:36, bonedriven wrote:
>
>> I thought GRUB must be installed on MBR if one wants to dual boot in a
>> same hard disk. So by reading what you say, I come to an understanding
>> that if grub is installed on a primary partition, one can almost do what
>> he likes while leaving MBR alone?
>
> Right.

I forgot to say:

You can also create a primary partition at the end of the disk, after
the extended container partition. Or 2, in your case, numbers sda3 and
sda4. It is not typically done, the partitioner may print a warning
(about the ordering of the partitions or so), but it can be done. I have
a computer like that. Windows might cough a bit.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)