I use KDE4. I begun using Gnu/Linux in 2011, so I never experienced KDE3. I’ve tried Trinity in a virtual environment for a few minutes, but never used it seriously. Recently i purchased an OpenSUSE 13.1 dvd (The version i’m currently running) and plan to do a minimal install and then install Trinity to give it a propper test.
I have used desktop environments other than kde in the past and i find i always desire kwin. Kwin running in XFCE4 worked, but i still found my self drawn back to the plasma desktop.
I plan on trying to use the native Trinity window manager to see how i like it, but if i don’t like it i’ll probably switch it out for kwin and see if i like Trinity.
Anyone here use or used Trinity? I’m interested in what you think of it.
Trinity is just a fork/continuation of KDE3, so it’s native window manager is in fact kwin. I suppose they renamed it to TWin though… Most of Trinity’s efforts went into just renaming things and get rid of the K.
Anyone here use or used Trinity? I’m interested in what you think of it.
No, I don’t use it, and I’m not interested to use it either.
But Trinity is not included in openSUSE, and I’m not aware of “official” repos either.
KDE3 is available (and included in the distribution) though, you could install just that.
AFAIK, Trinity doesn’t really have big improvements over KDE3. And some of Trinity’s patches did make it into openSUSE’s KDE3 packages anyway.
I have installed Trinity with the official repo provided at the Trinity website. the instructions provided worked flawlessly for me, on OpenSUSE 13.1. I post a screenshot in the March 2015 thread if anyone’s interested. It looks modern due to lots of personal customizations i made.
What i found with Trinity is that applications seem to have more consistent feel throughout the environment, eg, Konqueror is a two panel setup, so is Amarok, and so is Kate. I never desired this, but experiencing it has really made me appreciate it.
Overall it reminds me of the Windows 98 days but with more customization and all the security and slow down flaws absent. I really enjoyed using Windows 98, so i’m finding Trinity very nice too. It doesn’t look pretty for todays standards, but it feels good. It’s hard to describe.
The kde3 window manager was forked into twin. It provides the same functionality that kwin does in refernce to special application settings, eg setting windows to open up on certain desktops ect. That is a functionality i use, but it can not provide eye candy desktop effects like kwin, specifically the present window effect and desktop grid features that i use all the time, so i did switch it out for kwin. Twin is different to Kwin, saying they’re the same is as inaccurate as claiming that AmaroK for Trinity is the same as AmaroK for kde4.
As I wrote, much effort of Trinity just went into renaming stuff and getting rid of the ‘K’. So Kwin is called Twin now.
You are right that Kwin is not Twin, but in the end they are basically the same code.
In particular, as many of Trinity’s changes/patches also got added to openSUSE’s KDE3 packages (as mentioned).
And I’m talking about KDE3’s kwin here of course, KDE4’s kwin is much further developed (8 years of continued development by its maintainers/developers). Kwin3 didn’t have those “eye candy desktop effects” you mention either
And Trinity’s Amarok is of course only comparable to the KDE3 version of Amarok (and it is basically the same, even if you don’t like to hear that). The KDE4 version was a complete rewrite, but there’s also a more modern fork of the KDE3 version available: Clementine.
No idea why you have to explicitely point out that Twin is a fork of Kwin. I already wrote that the whole Trinity is a fork of KDE3.
And KDE3 (with some of Trinity’s patches) is still officially included in openSUSE. You can just as well install the original IMHO.
PS: I’m just expressing my opinion, and wanted to clarify some things. I don’t want to force or persuade you to use KDE3 instead.
You can of course also use Trinity if you like, no problem with that…
I use trinity off and on out of nostalgia, I started using linux when KDE3 was still fresh so I see it as good memories and miss it once in a while.
Its still a nice desktop but I think KDE4 has overall surpassed it by now.
But with KDE4 being replaced now I am thinking of sticking with MATE as i hate gnome shell with a passion and Plasma 5 is still lacking