http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Medias/images/iso/
Thank You.
It’s like someone spreads the parts to a car out on the floor and then says, “There! Now you have everything you need to get to Chicago.”
Not really.
Those images are of working systems (live isos). Maybe it is more like a prototype car, put together for testing.
Regarding the “openSUSE offers choices for KDE Git builds” (openSUSE offers choices for KDE Git builds - openSUSE News)
How many different openSUSEs are there? Can you give me a link to reading material. …in English please, not Jargonese. I’m only a simple electronic engineer.
Thanks!
PS: My comment about the car was with regard to the article, not the ISO images. I guess I was being a little obscure. Kindly excuse me.
If you install Tumbleweed, there are some additional repos that you can add so that you can test the latest KDE – beta versions that are not yet in Tumbleweed. And that’s what those Krypton images are – the additional repos are already added.
Similarly, Argon images are Leap 42.1 with bleeding edge repos added.
Hmm, I see that the i686 images have not been updated since March. 32-bit is going the way of the dodo.
openSUSE-13.2-DVD-x86_64.iso <– Is this Tumbleweed?
I’m running this as an ISO image in a virtual disc (VD) and booting it in a virtual machine (VM). I was very surprised that I could configure it and the configuration was persistent. Wow! That means that, if someone can run a VM and if that VM can boot from a VD, that person can treat the combination as a portable operating system with dynamic kernel & GUI.
But I attempted to install a differing GUI and completely broke the VD.
Where would I get help? Do I need to post to an openSUSE forum (which one?) or to a GUI forum? …I don’t really want to cross-post and have to pick and choose between alternatives that I don’t fully understand.
I Thank You for your Invaluable Help;
Mark.
No, that’s opensuse 13.2. The latest Tumbleweed iso is “openSUSE-Tumbleweed-DVD-x86_64-Snapshot20160613-Media.iso”. You can find that here: http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/iso/
Sorry, I don’t know enough about your virtual machine issue to be able to help.
What should I be booting/installing?
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/13.2/iso/
Is the list on this page good?
Which torrent? I assume #2 downloads Gnome GUI, and that #3 has KDE GUI, but what’s #1’s GUI?
openSUSE-13.2-DVD-x86_64.iso.torrent
openSUSE-13.2-GNOME-Live-x86_64.iso.torrent
openSUSE-13.2-KDE-Live-x86_64.iso.torrent
What is this?
openSUSE-13.2-Rescue-CD-x86_64.iso.torrent
Gee, some ‘readme’ files sure would be helpful.
Oh, Dog! Here’s more:
http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/iso/
I guess that stuff is tumbleweed – it says “tumbleweed”. So, what did I get? What is openSUSE-13.2-DVD-x86_64.iso?
I just can’t understand how Linux gurus can think that newbies are just lazy. This is a mess and very disheartening.
Our posts crossed in the mail before I could see your messages. Sorry…
This page:
has links for Tumbleweed and Leap, but the text to which the links connect is just marketing BS. Is there anything informative out there?
BTW, the links to which I refer are javascript events, not URLs. This is unnecessary and makes it hard for people to navigate. I began writing javascript (and java) back in Netscape days – I also write C, C++, PL/1, spitbol, … yadda yadda yadda … but I think javascript will eventually kill the net. I’m getting to hate it. When I write to programmers for on-line banks and I advocate for server-generated code (PHP, Perl, etc) exclusively (so that customers can turn off javascript) the programmers ‘look’ at me like I’m feeble-minded. They just don’t get real security.
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No, that’s opensuse 13.2. The latest Tumbleweed iso is “openSUSE-Tumbleweed-DVD-x86_64-Snapshot20160613-Media.iso”. You can find that here: http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/iso/[/QUOTE]
So, there’s 3 versions of openSUSE:
openSUSE 13.2,
Tumbleweed, and
Leap?
Good grief.
That’s the install image for opensuse 13.2, which was release around Nov. 1, 2014. And Leap 42.1 was released about one year later. Tumbleweed is a rolling release.
I don’t normally use that page. If I’m looking for the latest release, I go to “software.opensuse.org”.
There are/were more: openSUSE - Wikipedia
And some of them have/had versions for 32-bit and 64-bit hardware.
Of any interest at the moment are:
openSUSE 13.1, still supported as Evergreen, supported after official support ended.
openSUSE 13.2, still supported.
openSUSE Leap 42.1 most recent.
Apart from this is Tumbleweed, a rolling release. Maybe not something you might want.
Compare to Windows, with Vista, Window 7, Windows 8, Window 8.1, Windows 10 and probably others.
Of those that you listed: Opensuse 13.2 will reach end-of-support somewhere around January 2017. Leap will be supported for a year longer, and there will probably be an update (something analogous to a service pack) to update it to 42.2 for longer support. And Tumbleweed just keeps rolling along (a bleeding edge rolling release).
If you are looking for something to install, I would suggest Leap.
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Compare to Windows, with Vista, Window 7, Windows 8, Window 8.1, Windows 10 and probably others.[/QUOTE]Microsoft abuses its customers and I’m sorry to see Linux following in fashion. I thought that the best interface was Win95-SE. Win2K was okay. I never touched WinME. WinXP was better, but still not as good as Win95-SE. Win7 sucks and so does everything else-post XP. Why does Microsoft keep changing the GUI? Why does it keep destroying its user-base? Why do people put up with Microsoft? – oh, wait, I can answer that one: Because it’s a professional operating system, not an amateur OS. A better question is: Why hasn’t Linux managed to capitalize on Microsoft’s errors? An even better question is: Why is Linux making the same mistakes that Microsoft makes?
I’m looking for a live USB image as a portable OS so I can play with it and see if I want it. How’s Leap vs. Mint? I don’t like Mint much because there’s no documentation and it’s hard to get help when something breaks because the forum has too many trolls who just want to bash lazy newbies.
Correct me if I’m wrong. Linux is the kernel plus the GUI. Granted that there’s built-in applications & the updater/installer, but it’s basically a kernel + GUI. Here’s the question: Once I have a Linux that runs well, why would I ever want to change it? If 13.2 floats my boat, why would I ever want Leap? This is not a rhetorical question. It’s a real question. Forget Microsoft and the stupid things it does.
Thanks for your help. I really mean it. This “which version of Linux” issue is driving me insane. I just want a reliable OS that is documented and can be maintained and that has a GUI that supports a hierarchical menu system that can contain many sub-menus, with menu items that are not just simple program launchers, but can also point to data items (think: library card catalog) – this of course assumes that the version of Linux contains some sort of file associativity so that the menu data item automatically causes it to open in the correct application (and I realize Linux is not real big on data associativity).
I’m sorry for the rant. I’ve been at this for several years and have made almost zero progress. What I’d like to do is run a Linux (openSUSE?) host and a mix of Linux & WinXP guests. It’s really that simple.
Try openSUSE-Edu-li-f-e.x86_64-42.1.1.iso
available here: openSUSE Lizards
I recommend an 8G (or larger USB). It’s a bit tight with a 4G USB. That’s the Leap release packaged for education. Multimedia support is already there. And you can install from the live media if you later want. One of my installed Leap systems is installed from that live USB, and is working well.
Hi
So jump on SUSE Studio and create your own live image with whatever you want on it? https://susestudio.com
The reason to update releases is the lack of security and bug fixes once it’s out of support, there may also be application features you require in newer versions available in the next release. Still no reason you can’t keep an out of support version, but if there are security issues you would need to backport and fix your own packages.
I think you will find using Leap as a basis will get you on the right track. Why not give SLED a go if you want (there is a 60 day evaluation period), SLED 12 SP1 is however GNOME only at present.
File/data association is done via mime types, as long as it exists the relevant application will open if defined via system wide, user space or in the desktop (menu item) entry.
I think you will find rants tend to fall on deaf ears here, we are a technical forum, ask a question (sans emotion else you might feel the moderator heat 
) and folks here will help and guide you, it’s all about wanting and willing to learn, make mistakes, getting frustrated are all part of the process, just take small steps…
Perhaps setup a virtual machine and duplicate the system in there to play with.
…Essentially create my own distribution(?)… Uh… Yeah… Sure…
Lack of security? Why would there be a lack of security? …I don’t give a rat’s pitutti about bug fixes – if there are bugs that are show-stoppers, then it’s not a well functioning OS and I don’t want it at all.
Do you mean something like playing 8K movies? If you are referring to something like that, I must ask: Why would someone need to scrap an existing OS for a new OS for that?
…Fix my own packages(?)… Uh… Yeah… Sure…
That brings up the issue of GUI. Am I making a mistake shopping for a Distribution? Should I be shopping for a GUI, and then pick a Distribution based on support for my chosen GUI?
Is there a GUI that supports mimetypes? Is there a file manager that indicates mimetypes? How many filetypes are guesses based on content? Is there a Linux that uses IBM-style dotted file extensions? (Aside: When UNIX arrived, I was about equally familiar with it and with IBM 370 mainframes. IBM’s file extensions (example: ‘.pdf’) always made more sense to me.)
I’m getting that bad-old-Linux feeling again…
That’s what I’m currently doing with Mint.
I found openSUSE documentation. I’m reviewing it now and will get back with questions.
Can I get openSUSE help? Where? (Note: I currently have a version 13.2 live ISO that’s broken and will not boot because I tried to install a differing GUI.)
I’m willing to pay for support, but I’ve seen that paying doesn’t guarantee support.
I will be back. The documentation I"ve seen so far looks much better than anything I’ve seen for Ubuntu (or Mint, which is basically also Ubuntu). But I want to post this message within my lifetime, so I’m posting it now.
PS: Congratulations, Malcolm,
This seems like a really nice forum.