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Re: KDE**
It uses gecko-mediaplayer and gnome-mplayer in the playback of Apple Movie Trailers iTunes Movie Trailers
It works
But, the quality is grainy compared to a Gnome install
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Re: Gnome**
It uses Totem and the totem-browser-plugin
It works
The quality is crystal clear
This represents my findings. If you can add your experience/thoughts/comments. That would be great.
What’s the (GNOME) MPlayer post-processing level?
If MPlayer output is grainy probably it is because the original video is grainy. And some people will say that your “crystal clear” output, without grain, is in fact blurry.
Probably just a matter of taste that you can configure.
I’m sure that this already accured to you, to me this then means that it isn’t a Kde / Gnome thing but a plugin/player/backend difference. Do you find any differences if you download a file and play it in both players (mplayer or totem), or is the difference just when played in the browse?. Do they both use the same backend (Xine, gstreamer or whatever)?
I didn’t doubt about the difference. I attributed it to a different post-processing level, that can be configured in (GNOME) MPlayer.
But from your screenshots it’s quite clear that we are looking at different streams with different resolutions. Increase the “bandwidth” option in (GNOME) MPlayer to let it use higher quality streams.
Carl,
I can’t offhand remember where but there was a post where Totem was recommended as the plugin to use not the gecko-mediaplayer.
I use KDE with the Totem & it works very well. Since 12.1 came out even in the M’s gecko-mediaplayer wasn’t working. On my system I got NOTHING! with gecko-mediaplayer. At least you got grainy, but Totem works I even saw the gray streaks in the guys beard!
Yes.
I have found gecko-mediaplayer unreliable too. There are times it just doesn’t work. I actually found, during the process of this test, some videos at apple trailers, that didn’t work and commented on missing quicktime plugin. But no problem with Totem.
Part of the reason I started this thread, is down to my recent decision to change my multimedia guide, making gnome and kde distinct. Previously I had dropped gecko-mediaplayer and used one script for both kde and gnome, which included totem plugin. The only thing is, for kde users, this drags in gnome packages in some quantity.
Though the same applies for gnome user who prefer k3b over anything gnome provides. But, you’ll see I removed k3b from the gnome multimedia too.
By far, playing iTunes Trailers using the Totem plug-in inside of Firefox works the best for me. Ever so often, mplayer will seem to take over, perhaps after an update and it looks worse and sometimes it does not work at all. I do not typically download said trailers for viewing later and so I can’t comment on that. I will say though that viewing iTunes Movie Trailers in Linux and Firefox works a whole lot better than trying to use Windows to do the same thing, by a mile. I not sure why I would recommend you use anything else but Firefox/Totem for this function in my opinion.
I separated the multimedia installations for Gnome and Kde to keep the two desktops more or less pure to their type. I have run the install of both the guides more time than I can remember now, and both work well. I believe this provides a cleaner result and does so without what might be seen a surreptitious inclusion of unwanted applications. Perhaps I’m being unnecessarily concerned about the purist approach. But the fix is simple enough, should we get complaints about the quality issue I raised here.
You know I am not sure just how many people who run Linux or openSUSE have ever made a visit to the iTunes Movie Trailer section. Linux & open source purists most likely would think it some sort of sin to make such a visit in Linux. I for one am a movie viewing nut and have found the iTunes Trailer spot to work very well in Linux using Totem. Apple has not locked us out and or the Totem folks have done a great job allowing us to view this Web site And the fact that it works so miserably in Windows is also kind of funny. The internet is so big and the ability to find movie trailers from other source is also great. Here are just a couple others:
Thanks so much Carl for bringing up a subject that is dear to my heart, the ability to view future and present movie trailers in openSUSE. It is a great option to have…
Part of the reason I started this thread, is down to my recent decision to change my multimedia guide, making gnome and kde distinct. Previously I had dropped gecko-mediaplayer and used one script for both kde and gnome, which included totem plugin. The only thing is, for kde users, this drags in gnome packages in some quantity.
Though the same applies for gnome user who prefer k3b over anything gnome provides. But, you'll see I removed k3b from the gnome multimedia too.
I consider myself a quintessential KDE user and I must say despite this I’ve not ever had a pure KDE desktop. Back when I did use Ubuntu I used k3b so I can also say I’ve not ever had a pure Gnome either. For this reason may I advise that your multimedia guide continue with the mixing of KDE & Gnome, in that most Linux users have mixed DEs.
Also one more point on your guide my thought was that it was a how to get started type of thing. Then after one has an established Opensuse set up the user can then try for a pure setup.
The guide is pretty comprehensive but yes, I suppose it’s a base install of multimedia to build on.
But, Re; your last comment: Unfortunately, the ‘Pure’ setup is something you need to keep clean from the beginning. Not try and recover to later. It’s a bit like Virginity
