Do I blashpeme?

[Riddlah]

This may seem like a ridiculous question, but I can take the ridicule to satisfy my curiosity.

Is it possible to remove Yast from openSUSE? I mean I know it’s possible, but is it reasonably feasible to do it without ripping out other integral parts of the base system with it?

And if it is, then is there a guide to administering the system without it? I’ve noticed that (probably because of Yast) there are some extra layers of abstraction to changing hostnames, controlling network services, etc.

Beyond sheer curiosity, here’s one of my main reasons for asking.

I really like zypper a ton more than yum in Fedora. And even though Fedora has always worked well for me, it seems like something is always constantly changing. New kernel **** near every week, for example, which I find completely useless when all of my relevant hardware works perfectly.

[malcolmlewis]

@Riddlah

This may seem like a ridiculous question, but I can take the ridicule to satisfy my curiosity.

Is it possible to remove Yast from openSUSE? I mean I know it’s possible, but is it reasonably feasible to do it without ripping out other integral parts of the base system with it?

And if it is, then is there a guide to administering the system without it? I’ve noticed that (probably because of Yast) there are some extra layers of abstraction to changing hostnames, controlling network services, etc.

Beyond sheer curiosity, here’s one of my main reasons for asking.

I really like zypper a ton more than yum in Fedora. And even though Fedora has always worked well for me, it seems like something is always constantly changing. New kernel **** near every week, for example, which I find completely useless when all of my relevant hardware works perfectly.

Hi
You don’t have to use it… modify files via the command line, I only use zypper for all my updates hardly ever use YaST for software side.

Do you have a list of services your wanting to manage? If so suggest a post in the applications forum…

[nrickert]

@Riddlah

Is it possible to remove Yast from openSUSE?

Why bother. Just don’t use it.

Much of what it does can be easily done in other ways.

As for a guide – if you are enough of an expert to manage without Yast, then you’ll be able to work it out. No guide is needed.

[Riddlah]

@nrickert

Why bother. Just don’t use it.

Much of what it does can be easily done in other ways.

As for a guide – if you are enough of an expert to manage without Yast, then you’ll be able to work it out. No guide is needed.

Yep, I can figure it out. That’s what I’ve done on every other distribution. But I’ve noticed some things are harder to locate now, especially since the adoption of systemd. The implementation is not exactly like Fedora’s, so I’ve had to do some additional digging around.

[knurpht]

@Riddlah

Yep, I can figure it out. That’s what I’ve done on every other distribution. But I’ve noticed some things are harder to locate now, especially since the adoption of systemd. The implementation is not exactly like Fedora’s, so I’ve had to do some additional digging around.

Removing / not removing Yast won’t change that.

[Riddlah]

@Riddlah

Yep, I can figure it out. That’s what I’ve done on every other distribution. But I’ve noticed some things are harder to locate now, especially since the adoption of systemd. The implementation is not exactly like Fedora’s, so I’ve had to do some additional digging around.

It woudn’t change the location of any files or daemons, but Yast saves you from having to actually know where / how certain things happen. That’s the primary reason I don’t want to rely on it too much.

[knurpht]

@Riddlah

It woudn’t change the location of any files or daemons, but Yast saves you from having to actually know where / how certain things happen. That’s the primary reason I don’t want to rely on it too much.

Then “locate” is your friend :D.