Hi,
I have a problem with my graphic card. After installing OpenSUSE 11.1 x86_64 successfully, the display quality is acceptable but when I browse or move windows, display is refreshed very slowly so that I have to wait to refresh. The following is my hardware profile:
Monitor: SAMSUNG 22" SyncMaster T220P
VGA: ASUS EAH4650 (1GB)
CPU: Intel Corei7 920
MB: ASUS P6T
I have to install any driver or update?
Is it a VGA or monitor problem?!
I installed the latest ATI driver but after reboot the screen was splash and white!
amirjadidi adjusted his/her AFB on Wednesday 29 Apr 2009 20:46 to write:
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> Is it a VGA or monitor problem?!
> I installed the latest ATI driver but after reboot the screen was
> splash and white!
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Can you give us some info on how you installed the driver and where you got
it, was it the latest from the ATI/AMD site or from Yast?
If from ATI did you run the aticonfig --initial command?
Have you edited the /etx/X11/xorg.conf to set the composite to “on” so that
the effects will work, if it is not “on” and you have them set in KDE then
you will get a white screen on start of KDE, here is the last section of my
xorg.conf:
<–snip–>
Section “Extensions”
Option “Composite” “on”
EndSection
<–pins–>
HTH
–
Mark
Nil iligitimi carborundum
Unfortunstely, It’s not about VGA!, I changed it but the same problem exist yet. I think it’s about some problems with motherboard or memory support.
MB: ASUS p6t
MEM: 12GB (232GB)
By the way, I switched back to previous OS (Win) in order to run my project and wait for new OpenSUSE version!
Regards.
My Asus P6T arrives today, but instead of ATI 4650 (such as you have with your Asus EAH 4650 graphics card) I elected to go with a nVidia GTX 260. I think it may be the weekend before I get around to installing openSUSE-11.1 on it.
Still, I suspect it should be possible to get your Asus P6T to work with your graphic card. If you try again, be certain check out all 3 graphic drivers for your graphic card, to see if one of the 3 makes a difference:
- VESA driver
- openGL driver
*]proprietary ATI driver
also, wrt the proprietary ATI driver, I suspect there are also different versions available, and one can always try an older version, if the current version does not work well.
It’s not about VGA. I test it with verified VGA but the same problem exist. Finally, today I have installed Ubuntu 9.04 with new kernel version and everything is great.
So you believe the 2.6.28 kernel (that comes with Ubuntu 9.04) was essential for the necessary functionality, and the 2.6.27 kernel that comes with openSUSE-11.1 was insufficient?
I did a google search looking for confirmation of this, but I found no obvious indication confirming this to be the case. … although I saw many posts wrt tthe 2.6.28 and 2.6.29 kernels and the 4650 … Perhaps if I had taken the time to read them all, I would have come to the conclusion you reached. I hope this 2.6.27 kernel problem is specific to the 4640 and has no relevance to my nVidia GTX 260 which is in my Asus P6T motherboard. Guess I’ll find out this week when I go to install openSUSE-11.1 on that PC. 
I am glad to read you have Linux working now (in your case Ubuntu).
If you wish to influence openSUSE-11.2 (which has the 2.6.29 kernel) to ensure it works with your PC (where 11.1 did not), you can find links to obtain a very very early pre-release version of 11.2 here (milestone1):Software.openSUSE.org
There is more information on 11.2 here: openSUSE News » openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 1 Released
… and we have a couple of threads on our forum going here:
11.2 milestone 1 - openSUSE Forums
and here:
11.2 milestone 1 issues - openSUSE Forums
… but note these milestone versions are for testing, and not for everyday use (as they are incomplete in some areas, and still have many developement bugs). Hence they are best installed on a separate PC (or in your case on a separate test partition), while still retaining your PC’s main functional boot partition (in your case Ubuntu-9.0.4).
Thanks for the posts.
Noting your post about display refresh:
Was that winXP or Vista that you switched back to?
I have a nVidia GTX 260 graphic card on my Asus P6T Deluxe V2 and the video is not updating the way it should (with the openGL driver). My 9 year old athlon-1100 has superior performance for video with an FX5200 AGP card, which should not be. … Something is slowing down the video update of the P6T with 64-bit openSUSE-11.1 Linux. The same does not exist on 32-bit winXP with this Asus P6T motherboard.
As you noted above, Ubuntu-9.0.4 does have a newer kernel. But I also noted today (it was not there last week) an update to the Asus P6T Deluxe V2 BIOS in Version 0406 has a vista fix (that may be applicable to linux):
P6T Deluxe V2 0406 BIOS
- Fixed the key may lag in BIOS setup when a Turbo Mode ratio was selected.
- Supported EIST function when CPU ratio is in manual mode.
- Adjusted max value of CPU ratio setting according to the number of cores active in BIOS setup.
- Fixed setup item “CPU Ratio Setting” may disappear if down CPU ratio.
**5. Fixed Vista may loading slowly when populated memory size is larger than 3GB and with high-end VGAs. **
Item 5 reads similar to what I was seeing with videos on a 64-bit openSUSE-11.1, as the GTX260 graphic card is considered “high end” by many. I do note 32-bit winXP did not have the problem, but it only see’s 3GB of RAM. I think version 0406 refers to a fix on 2009/05/04 (4-May-2009) update , so its quite possible that update is not in the motherboard I purchased.
Hence when you stated you “switched back to previous OS (Win) in order to run (your) project” , was that Vista or XP ? … I’m also wondering if what I am observing is similar to what you observed.
My apologies for these constant replies … my thinking on this tends to be a bit slow sometimes. I was curious about the Ubuntu 9.04 version you installed. Did you install a 32-bit or 64-bit version?
Its people not reading the wiki, as for slow can’t comment sounds like an OSS driver problem but white screen which they fixed with Ubuntu is fixed too if they just look …
As for Ubuntu we know why it spoon feeds every configuration and app it can, basically blanket bombing even if you don’t need it.
OK, so if I understand correctly, when user amirjadidi was:
- using the openGL (or vesa) driver they had a very very slow display refresh (which is what I am seeing with nVidia instead of ATI hardware, albeit I notice it not dragging windows, but replaying videos), and
- trying to install the proprietary ATI driver, they had a white screen problem, where there is a fix noted in the openSUSE wiki for the proprietary ATI installation, and hence they did not adequately test that configuration
That is a plausible fix for the “white screen” with the proprietary driver (that amirjadidi would need test), but it does not explain the very slow screen refresh with the openGL or vesa driver.
A pc with the processing capability of an Intel Core i7, with a graphic card with the capability of an ATI 4650 **should not have display refresh problems **with ANY graphic driver. Currently my ancient 32-bit athlon-1100 with a nVidia FX5200 32-bit openSUSE-11.1, using the openGL driver, for video playback is blowing the drawers off of the Intel Core i7 with nVidia GTX260 on 64-bit openSUSE-11.1 also using the openGL driver. Clearly something is wrong somewhere.
I do note there are fixes for the Intel Core i7 in both 2.6.28 and 2.6.29 kernels. But despite spending time reading the change notices, I could not point at one and state “this is the one that fixes the slow display refresh rate” problem.
A 32-bit winXP on the Asus P6T does not have the problem. Hence I am left with a feeling that there could be a problem with either the BIOS of the P6T for selected cases (which are not clear yet in my mind), or the 64-bit openGL drivers have problems, and no bug report has yet been raised. … But I need to eliminate the possibility this is a BIOS problem before wasting any one’s time by writing a bug report on the openGL driver. …
I updated the BIOS to 0406. The update did not improve the Video playback.
I also tried the VESA driver, it was marginally better when using X11 output video mode, but still slower than an athlon-1100 PC, which makes no sense. I’ll likely try the nVidia proprietary driver next.
OK, so I installed the nVidia proprietary driver 180.51 a few minutes ago. Its like NIGHT and DAY. The nVidia driver finally makes the Asus P6T with an Intel Core i7 and the nVidia GTX260 look better than what it was. MUCH MUCH better. I have not done any detailed checks yet, but using smplayer without VDPAU, it was at about 13% cpu loading of one core when playing back a custom mpeg file. Not great (I know winXP with vlc playing the same video was around 3% cpu loading of one core) but it is still a SIGNIFICANT improvement over the openGL and VESA drivers. I can go full screen with this and it is still smooth as can be.
So there are problems there, … the openGL graphic driver needs major work … and there is possibly some kernel problems (likely to be fixed in openSUSE-11.2), … and possibly some other problems. … but at 13% cpu on one core, with 4 cores (8 core if one considers the "virtual core) then this PC now “blow the drawers off” my other PCs. …
So I’m a happy camper again.
As a follow up to this, I note this blog:
OpenSUSE 11.1 - OpenGL problem after nVIDIA driver update - iKurt.com
by a user who reported major problems with the version 180.29 version of the openGL driver, and that by rolling back to the 180.22 they solved their problem. I am now wondering if I unwittingly was using a version of the Linux nvidia openGL driver that had problems. … No matter, as the proprietary driver works well, but I suspect that I did run afoul of such a hiccup.
That is the prop driver look where it is coming from on the wget.
The latest xorg one is xf86-video-nv 2.1.13
The latest Nouveau … is a git compile I have 0.0.10
As for prop I guess what card…
With my older PC’s, I never paid any attention to this. I simply installed openSUSE, and selected the openGL driver, and things “just worked” . …
I did, while testing vdpau, install the nVidia proprietary driver (which I still use on my Athlon-2800 PC, with its BFG nVidia GeForce 8400GS graphic card).
But never have I paid attention to versions of openGL drivers before. I was not even aware of the update process (for openGL drivers) and how users if they wished, could go for the latest openGL driver. … My typically PC useage never waranted it.
I can see now I may need to revise that view point. …
I don’t understand the use of OpenGL that is mesa afaik which is normally overtaken when prop is used. Mesa Home Page
Not to mention mesa is 3D which afaik NV doesn’t support (Or if does for limited cards) and nouveau is struggling to get working.
Edit
Oh well I just concur it is 3D and I don’t really know how it interacts with the drivers as using prop I have it. Mmm part 2 afaik you can’t get closed GL to work on linux…
OK better understanding it removes one lib with the prop libgl but uses OpenGL.