I try to work with the desktop environment “Xfce 4.10” occasionally. I have got difficulties to switch-off my updated openSUSE 12.1 system cleanly. I stumble on information like the following.
On 2012-07-13 12:06, elfring wrote:
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> I try to work with the desktop environment “Xfce 4.10” occasionally. I
> have got difficulties to switch-off my updated openSUSE 12.1 system
> cleanly. I stumble on information like the following.
Updated? What do you mean exactly?
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
On 2012-07-13 16:36, elfring wrote:
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> robin_listas;2474162 Wrote:
>> Updated? What do you mean exactly?
> I use some newer software components for my Linux system than from the
> images/packages that are distributed by the installation DVD for
> openSUSE 12.1.
Not detailed enough, sorry. What are those components, where do you obtain
them from exactly… How do you expect us to help if you withhold
information? We can not sit at your computer and find out, you have to
speak up!
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
This concern does not really help to identify the software components for which I observe unexpected run time behaviour.
Would you like to suggest any update candidates for the involved open issues?
On 07/15/2012 06:46 PM, elfring wrote:
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> robin_listas;2474422 Wrote:
>> So, you are using tumbleweed, mixed with standard repos: that is a
>> no-no.
> This concern does not really help to identify the software components
> for which I observe unexpected run time behaviour.
> Would you like to suggest any update candidates for the involved open
> issues?
the software component causing runtime problems is most likely the
kernel…and most probably a kernel installed from the Tumbleweed repo…
as said, you should not mix Tumbleweed with openSUSE 12.1–that is a
known problem…best sorted out by the Tumbleweed experts in http://tinyurl.com/3ljwanm
i can’t help because i’ve never used Tumbleweed, and as far as i know
neither has Carlos…
On 2012-07-15 18:46, elfring wrote:
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> robin_listas;2474422 Wrote:
>> So, you are using tumbleweed, mixed with standard repos: that is a
>> no-no.
> This concern does not really help to identify the software components
> for which I observe unexpected run time behaviour.
> Would you like to suggest any update candidates for the involved open
> issues?
It is impossible.
You can not have mix any tumbleweed repo with the normal distro and expect it to work. I will
not even attempt to find out what exactly is wrong, its a waste of time. Decide what you want
to install, 12.1 or tumbleweed and install it, then ask again if you have problems.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
I imagine that the package collection can be filtered for software updates that were taken from “dangerous” or “challenging” repository variants like tumbleweed.
It seems that I have got the special difficulty to perform this filtering on files from my openSUSE installations by a Knoppix session when I do not get it to work with ordinary permissions from my personal user account.
On 2012-07-15 23:26, elfring wrote:
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> robin_listas;2474576 Wrote:
>> It is impossible.
> I imagine that the package collection can be filtered for software
> updates that were taken from “dangerous” or “challenging” repository
> variants like tumbleweed.
That’s your task as system administrator, you have to know what you do.
> It seems that I have got the special difficulty to perform this
> filtering on files from my openSUSE installations by a Knoppix session
> when I do not get it to work with ordinary permissions from my personal
> user account.
There is a procedure that sometimes work, quite drastic. Boot with the DVD, and choose the
option “upgrade installed system”. The procedure will deactivate all repos, do not reactivate
them during the procedure. I have used this procedure on occasion, successfully. After that you
will have to add the needed repos, but only the needed ones. Like packman.
On 07/15/2012 11:26 PM, elfring wrote:
> I imagine that the package collection can be filtered for software
> updates that were taken from “dangerous” or “challenging” repository
> variants like tumbleweed.
if it were my machine, i would try to get it back to a stable 12.1, and
then not add troublesome repos again by following the excellent advice
in the paragraph beginning with “IMPORTANT” in this post: http://tinyurl.com/33qc9vu
to get back to a stable 12.1 i’d follow my own known to work advice in
this post: http://tinyurl.com/boqsodw (proof it works is in the next post)
read my sig caveat prior to embarking on the path to stability…