Hi,
I remember good old times with openSUSE 10.3 and Kerry (beagle), I could find my files super fast in that time.
Now, times are better, KDE 4 rocks, I am using openSUSE 11.2 + KDE 4.4.5. But I had to droped desktop search since openSUSE 11.0 because beagle/kerry is broken since then.
Does openSUSE 11.3 brings again a working desktop search solution for KDE users??? (not beagle). Does this KDE strigi/nepomuk thing works?
Thanks.
xavier
I have activated “Nepomuk Strigi File Indexing” in openSUSE 11.3 and the KDE desktop by going to Personnel Settings / Advanced / Desktop Settings where I selected “Enable Nepomuk Semantic Desktop” and “Enable Strigi Desktop File Indexer”. This gives me very fast file and text searching ability. If you have a slow computer, it has been suggested this can drag you down, but good searching requires some CPU power. I have noticed no issues on my PC using it.
Thank You,
Where do you enter the search terms? I mean, where is the “textfield” where you submit the key words for searching?
Thanks.
Try alt + F2. This brings up krunner. Configure it to your taste. You can enter a search term there.
alt + F2 works as onemystic says and it is a menu option called “Find Files/Folders”.
Thank You,
IMHO the best place to put your search terms is in the Search Box in Dolphin. You need to add it by customizing your toolbar first to show it, but once you do it provides a much easier Nepomuk/Strigi search interface than krunner.
Cool, I will try this : )
Don’t get your hopes up, nepomuk has been a disaster from day 1 IMHO.
Here is me searching for “Bob”
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p145/wakou/June2010/nepom1.png
Nepomuk’s response?
http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p145/wakou/June2010/nepom.png
Pathetic.
My simple tests relect wakou’s experience. Not much activity from Nepomuk, and ‘No Items Found’ when searching via Dolphin. Maybe I’m missing something…
It’s not that it doesn’t work; it’s that Desktop Search has changed structure, and thus is in severe flux.
With 4.4.x, Desktop Search uses nepomuk for the front end and and virtuoso for the back; however, KDE 4.5 RC2 (and the KDE 4.6 alphas) have also added strigi to the back end along with virtuoso, with nepomuk still handling the front-end duties.
(Basically, despite 4.4.x (4.4.4/4.4.5) being the default KDE, the Desktop Search portion has basically become moribund, as the structure has changed going forward.)
Because of that change, dependencies when upgrading (especially from 4.4.x or earlier) can be a real problem; just trying to get KDE 4.5 RC2 was a real hard row to hoe, and that was with 11.3 GM. In addition to adding KDE Unstable to my repos, a mere zypper ref/up was not enough (in fact, it resulted in only a partial upgrade that left KDE unusable); only zypper dup fixed things.
Thanks for the info PGHammer.
Strange, I had it working on my computer. Of course I use Yast to do all my installation stuff. With the QT front end you can then tell it to switch all packages to the new repositories. I know there’s a zypper way to do this as well.
Anyway, I had it working on my Desktop computer. Make sure you tell strigi where to look for files. Otherwise it can’t index them. You can configure this by going to Configure Desktop (Personal Settings)>Advanced>Desktop Search, then clicking File Indexing and specifying which folders to browse. You can also search through the application launcher to get to files and folders.
Take Care,
Ian
I’ve actually had much better results from Nepomuk/strigi than I ever did with Beagle.
Here’s me searching for “Zombie”
http://1dl.us/wk
and it works as advertized, listing not only items with “Zombie” in the title, but also items with “Zombie” in the files themselves, and it does it very quickly.
I couldn’t help but notice that your strigi indexer is not running in your system tray. Are you sure your files have been indexed and that the nepomuk server is running?
I’am surprised that Nepomuk/Strigi is working for some persons and for others not :.
The desktopsearch using Strigi (in Dolphin) was working in 11.2 with KDE 4.3 , but it stopped working with some of the newer KDE 4.4 versions. Also in Opensuse 11.2 the search is not working.
I will try to delete the files under “.kde4/share/apps/nepomuk/repository/main/data/virtuosobackend/” and let Nepomuk/Strigi assemble a new database.
Best wishes
Michael
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no but yeah but no but …
I have tried everything, starting stopping deleted it all re-installing etc etc etc. Everytime I do a zypper up (daily)I get updates to nepomuck, strigi, virtuoso etc etc and hope that THIS time it will actualy work, but no. I installed 11.3 fresh on to my laptop, everything works out of the box except… you guessed, nepomuck. The indexing service does not even bother to try now even when I go Systemsetttings>advanced>desktop search>enable> apply it just ignores me and does nothing. I have SOME sort of functionality via alt F2 (krunner?) but it is not what I want. It is a hopeless pile of ordure and should never have been released in this condition.
As much as you “tried everything” with KFind, I suppose.
Wow.
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As much, yes, as I can reasonably be expected to do. As much as a normal person might reasonably be expected to do. I hate to mention, but in Windows, start>find enter anything and it finds it. I have somewhere on these forums posted results of timed tests, with kfind taking IIRC 12 minutes not to find anything on a search of a hard drive, MSWin taking 30 seconds or so.
The indexing service does not even bother to try now even when I go Systemsetttings>advanced>desktop search>enable> apply it just ignores me and does nothing.
Same here. The nepomuk server is not running even though enabled…