On 12/03/2012 11:16 AM, me3064 wrote:
> Why so much Dell hate? If you buy a cheap PC with Dell you will get
> crappy quality. My XPS 17 has got fantastic build quality and once I had
> Bumblebee set-up it has been a dream. You pay for quality. Simple as
> To be fair though, Dell do have a ton of models that are awful but
> their XPS line is really great and all the hardware works out of the
> box. The trick is optimus graphics set-up but that’s true a lot
> I’d pay the $50 premium just for the assurance I can get support from
> Dell and to reward them for their effort to choose linux compatible
> hardware. Ubuntu is the headline distro for Linux and we need to accept
Dell also has Complete Care… yes… sure, it raises the cost over 4 years by a
few hundred dollars, but at the end of 4 years you pretty much can get a brand
new laptop (more or less). In fact I’ve had the situation where they gave me a
brand new laptop (that is, they didn’t have the parts to repair the old… and
of course, what you get is BETTER than what you had, with the exception of the
screen resolution debacle that affects us all).
I had an older laptop at the end of it’s CC warranty, I had the top bezel
replaced (which removes those stupid “blah inside” stickers), the keyboard
replaced, mouse trackpad replaced… at the end of the day, the laptop looked
brand spanking new, and I gave it to somebody who needed a “new” laptop, what
they got was a 15" 1920x1200 screen … wish I could have that back
The majority of my Dell problems were due to Nvidia and nothing but Nvidia and
there bad quality GPUs which burn up and die inside of laptops over time.
My current laptop that I use the most right now is an HP Elitebook 2530p (Yes…
not a Dell). What happens when it starts acting up? Not sure. It hasn’t so
far and it’s 3 years old now (or more). I like it because it runs openSUSE
(11.1, and now 11.4) so well (just about everything works like you want it to).
And it’s a real dual core and it’s the size of a netbook.
My wife uses a Dell Latitude E-series… it’s running openSUSE 12.1, with only
minor issues on the wifi (easily worked around).
With any laptop, you take a risk. Let’s face it. Dell doesn’t make laptops.
HP doesn’t make laptops. Lenovo laptops… a few of them are certified for IBM
and IBM HAS TO HAVE Linux work on them (Warning: ONLY specific models), though
it’s there own “closed” internal only Linux.
I “was” in a position that allowed me to find what worked and what doesn’t work
with regard to relatively new product. And those people are still out there
(hint to them) and they need to be publishing to the openSUSE HCL so people
don’t have to waste so much money trying to find out which are the “good”
laptops to own.
Best advice on laptops, this year’s model is a bigger risk than last years.
Change your mindset a bit and you’ll be happier buying the cheaper discounted
“last year” top of the line, etc… but obviously, even then, it helps if
there’s a published HCL entry.