On 02/27/2012 06:16 AM, roguehorse wrote:
>
> 1. While trying to run some WebGL graphics online I would get error
> codes that my drivers were not to par and possibly needed updating.
> Check and double check for latest drivers for NVidia GeForce 9800 GT.
> Using “sysinfo” I find that the driver listed there as being used is
> called “nouveau” where I would expect NVidia and some release number. I
> search online again and find instructions to replace the nouveau driver
> with an official driver from NVidia.
where did you find these instructions?
if you did not find them here: http://tinyurl.com/37v9y7m then you most
likely found and followed the wrong instructions and that is probably
the root cause of your problems…
it is very important to recognize that the internet remembers for a
LONG time…and, you can easily find instructions on how to do things
that worked great two years ago, on Debian or Red Hat and never worked
and never will work on openSUSE…(and what works here may or may not
work on Arch or Mint)
> I download and install 3D driver
> from NVIDIA 290.10. The final atep in the installation process to
> replace nouveau driver with NVidia driver is to log out and log back in.
> I log out and cannot log back in.
ok, THAT is the point you should have asked here: What do i do now?
> <big snip>
> 5. With this logic in mind I go to YaST and into Boot Loader.
the YaST boot loader is only a way to edit one file in the system, the
/boot/grub/menu.lst file
>
> 6. In Boot Loader I copy all the data for -Default and place them into
> the -Desktop boot load profile.
AH! that is what that meant…hahahaha (not laughing at you, laughing at
me being unable to figure out what the heck you were talking about)
> From my understanding, I am making a
> copy of the -Default boot load profile and renaming it -Desktop.
ok, but those are not a “profile” they are “boot options” or “kernel
command line parameters”
> Now, in
> case I get this problem again, I still have a fall back to go to that is
> easier to use than failsafe mode. I also understand that using either
> boot load profile is going to utilize the same set of files in the /boot
> file.
no, those boot options do not make up a “boot profile” and nothing on
the Boot Options line represents a “file” in “/boot” or “/boot file”
> So I need to copy these files as well and rename them.
those are NOT files, they are words.
>
> 7. Still working in the “C” option profile (openSUSE -Default), I log
> in to Dolphin as root and go to the /boot folder. I delete all files
> with the -Desktop in the file name. I then copy all similar files with
> -Default in the file name and rename them changing -Default in the file
> name to -Desktop. Now I understand that I have only copied and renamed
> files and not re-configured them to be exact as the original files.
> Still make sense?
no! are you saying you deleted all files like these (with different numbers)
System.map-2.6.37.6-0.9-desktop
config-2.6.37.6-0.9-desktop
initrd-2.6.37.6-0.9-desktop
vmlinuz-2.6.37.6-0.9-desktop
and, they you renamed those files like those ending with -default to now
end with -desktop, right??
if so: congratulations: you are very lucky your machine will boot at all…
and may get the award for the machine with the most screwed up /boot
which still does…
>
> 8. I reboot the machine and allow option “A” the copied -Default
> profile now named -Desktop to load. Everything goes as expected and I
> have a working desktop again WITH the NVidia drivers that I loaded
> instead of the nouveau drivers.
another amazing feat!!
>
> 9. I do some searching on line and try to find a good explanation of
> what the difference is between the two boot load profiles. All I can
> find is that -Default
those are not “load profiles”! you have two kernels installed one named
Desktop and one named Default
the vmlinuz-2.6.37.6-0.9-desktop (with different numbers) you deleted
was not a profile but was a kernel…
it is the basic ‘thing’ that is Linux…the heart of the system…
then you took a different kernel named (like)
vmlinuz-2.6.37.6-0.9-default and renamed it to vmlinuz-2.6.37.6-0.9-desktop
> 10. This was my original question " I need to change some settings in
> the “A” -Desktop boot load profile to be optimized for daily activity "
no you do not…you need instead to go back to where the trouble first
started and follow some ‘rules’
-
if using Red Hat 9, look for Red Hat 9 answers (and etc!)
-
if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it (unless you are capable of and
willing to fix it yourself)
-
if you do not know what you are doing do NOT fiddle with it until
after you have followed Rule One and learned what to do…AND asked
questions here if you need to
-
if everything is going ok and you read on some web site somewhere
that your system possibly needs upgrading: follow Rule Two. (on the
other hand if an openSUSE website, or openSUSE application recommends an
upgrade the follow Rule One and Three)
-
but if everything is NOT going ok and some web site says your system
possibly needs upgrading, follow Rule One and Three
-
if after following Rules One, Two, Three and Four you change
something (like install a new video driver) and the system is broken
then undo what you did (replace the nvidia driver with the previous
working nouveau driver)…that is do NOT leave the non-working driver in
the system and ignore Rule Three and start deleting and renaming
files…and then ask what to do.
> 11. <snip>
> However, I’m not one to just sit and wait for others to solve my
> problems for me, so I continue to try and try again to attempt to solve
> the issue myself while waiting for someone FAR MORE knowledgeable than I
> to lend a bit of wisdom.
ok, i DO understand that attitude and i acknowledge that it ain’t a bad
way to learn a lot…and it IS your machine…you are most welcome to
delete and rename files all day long, as long as you wish…no problem
with me…
but, if you break it, you need to fix it…
so, here is the wisdom based on my experience and knowledge: read and
follow Rules One through Ten
>
> 12. While waiting for my “ray of sunshine” I figured out the phone and
> the work around for the keyboard for now.
as said, congrats on fixing those…
> However, I’m still very sure
> that the files I deleted in /boot really should be replaced with the
> exact same files. My current kernel number is 12.1 - 3.1.9 - 1.4.
>
> I hope this step by step explains things a little bit better. Sorry for
> any confusion.
yes it does, but truth is i’m not sure how to get from ‘here’ back to
‘where you should be’…
because as far as i can see you are now operating with a default kernel
renamed desktop…the original (actual) desktop kernel having not
worked with the nvidia driver–but seems to be working fine with the
default driver (renamed to desktop)–and, i don’t know how to explain
that because if the nvidia driver wouldn’t work with the original
desktop kernel it should not work with the default kernel renamed desktop…
see?
try this: put this in a user terminal and copy paste the results back to
here between code tags (if you don’t know what a “user terminal” is or
how to open one, see Rule Three…if you don’t know what “between code
tags” means see http://goo.gl/i3wnr
while you are off digesting the above, and doing the copy paste i’m
gonna try to figure out how to get you back to the correct kernel, and a
video driver which works with it…
OH: Rule Eleven is: Read and understand the caveat in my sig before
following any of my advice.
–
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