ctl/alt/backspace

Hello, I am a new user of Suse 11, although I have a fair amount of experience with other distros.

I am not sure if ctl/alt/backspace constitutes an application or not but I can’t think where else to put the question.

The point is it doesn’t work. I have three other linux distros on this machine and all of those restart the x server if I use ctl/alt backspace, but Suse doesn’t, it only beeps at me.

Is there some setting that I need to enable for ctl/alt/backspace to work? I managed to find the one for enabling SysRq keys although that had me fooled for a while as well, so perhaps there is a similar one for ctl/alt/backspace that I haven’t found yet. If there is such a setting then where is it?

PS I have another question that is bugging me as well but I will post that in the networking section as that is where it belongs. If you are particularly keen on helping newbies perhaps you could look at that one as well!

Let me say that I am quite impressed with opensuse 11 (if you discount KDE4 and FF3) it looks like an excellent distro.

With excellent release notes… openSUSE 11.0 Release Notes

What the poster above me is referencing is that they mentioned the Ctrl-Alt-Backspace thing in the release notes.

They changed it to where you have to do it twice, to prevent people accidentally hitting it and crashing their X server when they didn’t mean to.

Of course, you could set it back to the old way by removing the following from your xorg.conf file.

Option "ZapWarning" "on"

Have fun. :slight_smile:

Thank you both, I will mark it as solved.

(Or I would if I could find the ‘edit’ button - Maybe that info is in the release notes as well!)

I installed openuse some weeks ago and still trying to find out what is the use of having to prees ctrl+alt+backspace twice to restart X!!!
In the release notes it says to avoid accidentally restart of X!!!
So someone accidentally presses ctrl then accidentally presses alt and at the same time presses backspace accidentally?IS there any change to do this combination if u really dont want it?
And waht if u press it accidentally twice.Maybe the devs should think of making it five times n a row or even 10…

gdelta9 wrote:

>
> I installed openuse some weeks ago and still trying to find out what is
> the use of having to prees ctrl+alt+backspace twice to restart X!!!
> In the release notes it says to avoid accidentally restart of X!!!
> So someone accidentally presses ctrl then accidentally presses alt and
> at the same time presses backspace accidentally?IS there any change to
> do this combination if u really dont want it?
> And waht if u press it accidentally twice.Maybe the devs should think
> of making it five times n a row or even 10…
>
>
might you have read the release notes? if not you should

Suse 11.0 x64, Kde 3.5.9, Opera 9.x weekly

And, where do I look if I enter “ctrl-alt-backspace” five times in a row
and nothing happens?

I don’t hit it twice. I just hold it down and it seems to work.

It beeps at me and takes a second, but then it works.

And again, you can always take the option out of /etc/X11/xorg.conf to make it work the old way.

In the new forums here, you can’t edit your post after 10 minutes.

I couldn’t agree more. When people start hitting multiple keys in combination, they expect something to happen. I can see a compiz/beryl user accidentally hitting ctrl-alt-bs, but does that really warrant adding a beep to the first attempt?

I wouldn’t mind the change so much if not for how obnoxious the beep is on my laptop. Since I often tinker with my graphics driver, the Zap Warning gets enabled every few days. I dread how often I get to hear that beep when a driver install goes awry. Ugh.

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So… disable it.

In the meantime it’s not just compiz users. Anybody using multiple
workspaces (an age-old feature) can hit this on accident and considering
it only slows you down by one “zap” I don’t think it’s a bit issue.
When you add how easily it can be disabled and that, for the most part,
people who won’t like it are tweaking graphics and getting into those
risky situations and also have the ability to override it in thirty
seconds, this is a good thing. It wouldn’t be there if it wasn’t
wanted, and chances are it is wanted more than it isn’t.

Good luck.

coomac wrote:
| gdelta9;1839277 Wrote:
|> I installed openuse some weeks ago and still trying to find out what is
|> the use of having to prees ctrl+alt+backspace twice to restart X!!!
|> In the release notes it says to avoid accidentally restart of X!!!
|> So someone accidentally presses ctrl then accidentally presses alt and
|> at the same time presses backspace accidentally?IS there any change to
|> do this combination if u really dont want it?
|> And waht if u press it accidentally twice.Maybe the devs should think
|> of making it five times n a row or even 10…
|
|
| I couldn’t agree more. When people start hitting multiple keys in
| combination, they expect something to happen. I can see a compiz/beryl
| user accidentally hitting ctrl-alt-bs, but does that really warrant
| adding a beep to the first attempt?
|
| I wouldn’t mind the change so much if not for how obnoxious the beep is
| on my laptop. Since I often tinker with my graphics driver, the Zap
| Warning gets enabled every few days. I dread how often I get to hear
| that beep when a driver install goes awry. Ugh.
|
|
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I didn’t give it to much thought when I hit the combo and it didn’t seem to work, so I just did it more slowly - kind of holding that bit longer on the keys. Interesting to read this a change. Seems a bit pointless though. What kind of idiot would do that accidentally! If they were that accident prone, I wouldn’t let them near my box.

In PlanetSUSE/PlanetKDE I have seen two or three posts from people that losed data because they were so “idiots”.

And anyway, idiots also have the right to use computers (their own computers, not yours). And since idiots would have more problems to change the default behaviour (since they are idiots) than clever people… oh, wait, why are we arguing about this??? Guys, doesn’t matter at all…

With this thread going, this could be moved to the soapbox.:slight_smile:
Just kidding, hitting the ctrl-Alt-backspace accidentally:confused: