Costly 12.1 Download

Writing this speed limited to 64kb/s as what I thought would be a 4.7GB download of 12.1 turned out to be about a 9.2GB download (with no other significant download in the meantime) going way over my 7GB download limit and costing me about $300 in excess usage!! What’s more, the full ISO didn’t download fully and won’t install. Not happy! Was hoping to upgrade my SUSE 11.2 x64, which has been very buggy. Now this. SUSE used to be a good system back at version 10 or so, but this is the final straw. If anyone can tell me this was my fault let me know.

Wrong forum, nothing to do with the forum software itself. This should have been posted in Soapbox as it’s a rant.

As said above. This is nott about how the forums function or can be improved.

As it is also not asking for help with a specific problem, this will be moved to Soapbox.

Please NNTP users, do not post until reopened.

This is now in Soapbox and reopend for posting.

To the OP @shaundrummond01,

You are welcome here, but please we are openSUSE users like you (or like you try to be). We try to help fellow openSUSE users when they encounter problems or have questions about the product. But when you have a problem, please try to start that in the correct subforum which a telling title that will draw prople with affinity to your problem into reading your text. And then describe as explicit as possible what your problem is. No vague: It does not work. Also allways remember that other people might do things completely different then yoou and that you should not assume that they think along the same lines as you.

Now for those who do not have a defined problem where they want help, we have subforums like Soapbox. But even there just saying that you are disappointed will not help you very much except when you feel beter after expressing your frustration.

The dvd iso is around 4gb, so something went completely wrong with the
download and I doubt it is an openSUSE problem (I never had or have
problems to download the dvd iso files).

You do not describe what you used for download (ftp, the button on the
web page for direct download, the torrent download???). So it is near to
impossible to guess what went wrong for you.

Btw if you have a limited download speed and a restriction on the
download volume I would guess you are better served to order some dvd’s
from one of the many services which sell you cheap copies (you can find
some on distrowatch) or even order the more expensive box version of
openSUSE. If you do not need the latter the dvd’s from services like
osdisc.com and other are really cheap, some even provide the contents of
the non oss and packman repos as extra dvd’s so you save additional
download volume.

Just my 2ct.


PC: oS 11.4 (dual boot 12.1) 64 bit | Intel Core i7-2600@3.40GHz | KDE
4.6.0 | GeForce GT 420 | 16GB Ram
Eee PC 1201n: oS 11.4 64 bit | Intel Atom 330@1.60GHz | KDE 4.7.4 |
nVidia ION | 3GB Ram

For users with limited and expensive bandwidth, I recommend that a distribution such as openSUSE which has many updates is NOT for such users.

If such users insist on installing a distro such as openSUSE then I recommend they obtain their DVD by postal mail. Web sites such as DistroWatch.com: Put the fun back into computing. Use Linux, BSD. have advertisements on the side of their web page advertising where many different distros (including openSUSE) can be procurred for ~$5 which is a fraction of the cost the op inexplicably decided to go for.

There appears to be only a German edition of the boxed set. Sad.

Not true, there’s a post by ken_yap pointing to the international edition

Hi
And that’s not openSUSE, it’s a fork… :wink:


Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 12.1 (x86_64) Kernel 3.1.0-1.2-desktop
up 1 day 17:20, 3 users, load average: 0.01, 0.02, 0.05
CPU Intel i5 CPU M520@2.40GHz | Intel Arrandale GPU

That is Balsam open-slx - Welcome which is the fork.
http://thumbnails52.imagebam.com/16804/7ab3b5168035319.jpg](http://www.imagebam.com/image/7ab3b5168035319)

There is a German openSUSE version that is NOT Balsam : http://www.edv-buchversand.de/suse/product.php?cnt=product&id=sus972&lng=&titel=openSUSE%2012.1%20mit%20Abo-Service
http://thumbnails59.imagebam.com/16804/de035d168035320.jpg](http://www.imagebam.com/image/de035d168035320)

@Knurpht, @oldcpu: interesting that the page for balsam studiously avoids mentioning or linking to anything of SuSE or openSUSE (commerce LOL).

IMO that’s not interesting, it’s at least ‘not wise’. If commercial, then I’d like to see the marketing strategy. To illustrate how I feel about this:

Ever since SuSE 7, every version, I used to buy SuSE, later openSUSE, sharing the expense with a good friend. We don’t need it, we bought it as sort of financial support. One of got the box and the DVD, the other one the books and the CD’s. Together we should have a rather complete collection. All this because both of us run (open)Su/USE. Now we’re expected to buy Balsam. Nope, not going to happen. There’s openSUSE stickers on my laptop, and booting it would show a nice Balsam bootsplash? Nah.My friend is the same: if the box and the media don’t say openSUSE, we don’t want it.

You might have misunderstood my politeness for a recommendation. Given the way it’s presented, I wouldn’t buy balsam and I wouldn’t recommend balsam to anyone who wanted to buy the openSUSE boxed set (because balsam is something else, unrelated to openSUSE, according to my reading of the balsam English home page).

On 2012-01-04 23:36, swerdna wrote:

> You might have misunderstood my politeness for a recommendation. Given
> the way it’s presented, I wouldn’t buy balsam and I wouldn’t recommend
> balsam to anyone who wanted to buy the openSUSE boxed set (because
> balsam is something else, unrelated to openSUSE, according to my reading
> of the balsam English home page).

Then something must have happened, because some versions ago open-SLX
clearly stated it was openSUSE. I have several complimentary boxes from
them, last one for 11.3.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

On 2012-01-04 14:36, hcvv wrote:
>> Please NNTP users, do not post until reopened.

Please, next time, could you say where it was originally posted? So that we
can find it.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)

Hi
As far as I can remember, things changed for 11.4 onwards…


Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 12.1 (x86_64) Kernel 3.1.0-1.2-desktop
up 1 day 3:42, 5 users, load average: 0.01, 0.06, 0.05
CPU Intel i5 CPU M520@2.40GHz | Intel Arrandale GPU