I have Opensuse 11.1 working perfectly.
Is it worth risking screwing up the Grub bootloader
or other issues for this upgrade?
What are the benefits.
Is Zypper the best way to update before doing a live Network upgrade? I think the worst problem I had going from Opensuse 11.0 to 11.1 was that I needed to boot with supergrub to edit and fix the bootloader manually. And also reinstall Samba. Which was better than the 10.3 to 11.0 where I had to scrap the entire install.It also says in the tutorial switching
the repositories to oss in the example. but I currently have all pacman repositories. I can barely remember them cause I only switched them all to pacman once based on another suggestion in a post I read. I just need a good backup plan if something goes wrong. Where can I get the best tutorial for the upgrade step by step. Which will give me the least chance of serious issues to get my system back up and running.
Ok so in your opinion do you think that Opensuse 11.3 will be a much more worthwhile upgrade? And will there be an upgrade path directly from 11.1 if so I will probably wait.
Personally I always backup and do a fresh install. But this is possible: Upgrade/11.2 - openSUSE
How well it will work for you from 11.1 to 11.3 I can’t say. I wouldn’t do it, but that’s me.
For me 11.2 has been a great improvement but for some - Not so much, ask anyone using ATI, but that’s not really openSUSE’s fault.
So you are saying probably it is a great upgrade for those using ATI but if not maybe not worth it. Well if there are many improvements in 11.3 I should plan on backing everything up and then if I crash reinstalling.
or jumping to 11.2 at that point then 11.3. So far even the fact that I did one successful upgrade without totally crashing is better than my track record with ms oses.
Question is also when does Opensuse 11.1 fall out of the spectrum of support?
Personally I think 11.2 is a worthwhile upgrade. I have a Radeon HD 4650 card, and 11.2 is better than 11.1. It’s the older ATI cards with users who want proprietary binary blobbie driver support who have issues, because ATI don’t support their card & kernel 2.6.31. On the Bootloader, you just need to check what it plans to do makes sense, you can force it to install GRUB into new /boot (or /) partition and stop it touching MBR, so you add entries to current boot loader (but then /boot cannot be ext4).
But 11.1 users can get most of the benefit by upgrading KDE4 & mozilla from build service. Features new to 11.2 like ext4 & improved VM, make the machine slightly more responsive and pleasant, but they are frankly not killer “must have” features.
Updates are coming for 11.2, so in a few months 11.2 will be the best release for vast majority of openSUSE users.
11.1 can expect support until 2 months after 12.0 or 11.4 is released.
Once again, it is well worth setting aside 8GB disk space, to experiment with new releases, both clean install & upgrades. Then you can evaluate the situation for yourself on your hardware, with much less liklihood of needing to use a backup.
Now I’m thinking since I’m planning on buying a Dell laptop after the 25th of December, I’m better off setting up 11.2 on the laptop. Since this Desktop is my main work PC. I could evaluate the OS there. Copy my Installs folder and all Important things to the laptop. Then if I decide to upgrade the Desktop later I won’t have a single point of failure.
Reasonable plan, but it’s hardware specific issues which would be most likely reason not to use 11.2.
Even the cool headed, rushed into 11.2, rather than the usual wait because the normal GM bugs are relatively innocuous compared to previous releases, not withstanding the bad experiences a few ppl have.
On laptop, you might want to watch the wireless card, some types of Broadcom have been problematic.
Possibly the x86_64 release is more solid than the 32bit one to, some reviewers of 32bit saw KDE issues I haven’t seen.
[QUOTE=robopensuse;2082564]Personally I think 11.2 is a worthwhile upgrade. I have a Radeon HD 4650 card, and 11.2 is better than 11.1. It’s the older ATI cards with users who want proprietary binary blobbie driver support who have issues, because ATI don’t support their card & kernel 2.6.31./QUOTE]
I heard that Kernel 2.6.32 has a lot of promise for ATI drivers though, but older ATI cards are always a pain.
I would not buy a new card either, Nvidia or Intel for me.
I attempted upgrading to 11.2 with a AMD 64 bit laptop and xpress 200 graphics and it was a total failure- I could not even recover to a command line.
I have been upgrading to Opensuse since 9.x through all the ATI, Broadcom issues- but this is just too big a failure to deal with
