consultation repository

Hello,

I have a repository that is not where it came.

Name: PK_TMP_DIR
path: / var/tmp/TmpDir.NLNiRT

Why is there so that you serve?

Thanks.

I do not know if others understand what you mean, but I do not.

Can you please provide more iinformation. Please, we do not know what you are doing, having, etc. You are not even telling the most basic information like which level of openSUSE you have. What are you doing (statements or program you use, where you click, etc.). What happens (exectly and precise). What did you think that should happen instead.

i also can’t understand the question…try again…

but, the system uses /var/tmp/ for a lot of temporary
things…normally you should not do anything with the stuff in
/var/tmp, just leave it alone…

each time you start up the system will put stuff in there for its own
use…like, just now i see in mine TmpDir.911US and other things,
that i will not touch.

if you are short on space, move some movies, music, photos, etc to
DVDs (for example) and leave everything outside of your /home/[yourID]
alone…(unless you wanna kill your system)

most folks can save a LOT of room by removing the game system :wink:


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Hi, I’m with opensuse 11.4 and kde.

My question is

What is the use that repository? Why is there?

it is not a “repository” it is a temp folder

On 04/04/2011 01:06 AM, jony127 wrote:
>
> My question is
> What is the use that repository? Why is there?

i answered it one way, i try again:

when any application runs it may need space to temporarily store
stuff…two kinds of stuff:

  1. some stuff it will never need again if the machine is shut down,
    that stuff it puts in /tmp (because it is ok to empty /tmp when the
    system is not running)

  2. but, some stuff an application may need even after a boot, that
    stuff goes into /var/tmp, the next time the application is run it will
    expect its long life but still temporary stuff to still be in
    /var/tmp, if it is not there it complains, aborts, crashes or
    otherwise gets ill…

the application’s programmer decides which stuff goes where…

read more here http://tinyurl.com/3jjy6lt


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I am not sure I fully agree with that explanation.

A better place for applications to store semi-persistent data is /var/cache. I have seen /var/tmp symlinked to /tmp on some systems and, as such, it could be expected to conform to the rules associated with the use of /tmp. An application should not behave badly in the event that data in /var/tmp goes missing. It should recover gracefully and, if necessary, recreate that data.

Regards,
Neil Darlow

On 04/04/2011 12:06 PM, neildarlow wrote:
>
> I am not sure I fully agree with that explanation.

of course mine was not intended to be an in depth discourse on all the
ins-and-outs of the file system hierarchy standard…

generally when a user who has been here a short time this kind of
basic file system question i usually try to give a generally usable
answer which might help the user understand the environment, and not
do unnecessary damage (while looking for stuff to delete–which common
around here)…

alternative answers may be better, even if covering information not
sought or all the shades of grey, like here: http://tinyurl.com/26gpd


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ok thanks.

I do not understand is because it has created the entry in the list of repositories. Navigating the directory I see that you have created oracle virtualbox.

I guess I can delete this entry without problems.

Sorry, but I still do not understand you. Be carefull deleting things you do not understand.

You get the list of repositories by doing

zypper lr -d

When you want us to comment on your list of repositories, post the output of this statement here.

On 04/04/2011 08:36 PM, hcvv wrote:
>
> You get the list of repositories by doing

i think he is using a machine translator which is mistranslating
‘directory’ with ‘repository’…

of course, i have been wrong… once!

(i thought i had made a mistake, but i had not…so! :wink:


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zypper lr -d

| Alias | Nombre | Activado | Actualizar | Prioridad | Tipo | URI | Servicio

—±------------------------------------------±------------------------------------------±---------±-----------±----------±---------±-----------------------------------------------------------------------------±--------
1 | Actualizaciones-para-openSUSE-11.4-11.4-0 | Actualizaciones para openSUSE 11.4 11.4-0 | Si | No | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /update/11.4 |
2 | **PK_TMP_DIR | PK_TMP_DIR | Si | Si | 99 | plaindir | dir:///var/tmp/TmpDir.NLNiRT ** |
3 | download.nvidia.com-opensuse | nVidia Graphics Drivers | Si | No | 99 | rpm-md | ftp://download.nvidia.com/opensuse/11.4/ |
4 | download.opensuse.org-Stable | Stable LibreOffice Repository | Si | No | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/LibreOffice:/Stable/openSUSE_11.4 |
5 | download.opensuse.org-mozilla | BuildService de openSUSE - Mozilla | Si | No | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_11.4 |
6 | download.opensuse.org-standard | Repositorio Principal (Contrib) | Si | No | 99 | rpm-md | Index of /repositories/openSUSE:/11.4:/Contrib/standard |
7 | packman.inode.at-suse | Packman Repository | Si | No | 80 | rpm-md | Index of /suse/openSUSE_11.4/ |
8 | repo-debug | openSUSE-11.4-Debug | No | No | 99 | NONE | Index of /debug/distribution/11.4/repo/oss |
9 | repo-debug-update | openSUSE-11.4-Update-Debug | No | No | 99 | NONE | Index of /debug/update/11.4 |
10 | repo-non-oss | openSUSE-11.4-Non-Oss | Si | No | 99 | yast2 | Index of /distribution/11.4/repo/non-oss |
11 | repo-oss | openSUSE-11.4-Oss | Si | No | 99 | yast2 | Index of /distribution/11.4/repo/oss |
12 | repo-source | openSUSE-11.4-Source | No | No | 99 | NONE | Index of /source/distribution/11.4/repo/oss

Sorry for my bad English.

I just want to know why the virtualbox has created this entry and if I keep it.

Is it possible one of those 1-click install thingers added it? They all add repositories with packages they require, perhaps vbox temporarily adds one that it’s meant to delete on completion but didn’t?

I think I’m correct in what I’m about to say, I’m just using what I hope is common sense, but someone more knowledgeable may correct me

How it got there, who knows, but your question is what you should do about it

As it’s created in a tmp folder jony127 logically it should be safe to remove, but it would be more sensible to disable it and see if you get any issues, but I can’t see how you would as once virtualbox is installed and running there is no need for it’s repository to be there other than for updates

If you don’t experience any problems after disabling it, to my way of thinking you have pretty much proved it would be safe to delete

On 04/05/2011 03:36 AM, Ecky wrote:
>
> Is it possible one of those 1-click install thingers added it?

you are talking about openSUSE repositories, the poster is talking about
a /var/tmp directory (which is incorrectly being termed a “repository”)

> How it got there, who knows, but your question is what you should do
> about it

he is talking about a directory /var/tmp/TmpDir.NLNiRT, put there by an
application and not by a one-click…

>
> As it’s created in a tmp folder jony127 logically it should be safe to
> remove,

while your logic may be correct, it will lead to a not good practice–in
Linux you should remove /tmp directory contents while the system is
not running only! like during boot, this way: http://tinyurl.com/dz446e

/var/tmp has a different problem as it is possible the application which
put files there may expect them to be there after a boot…


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2 days later. Talk about LUCK!

On 04/05/2011 12:36 AM, jony127 wrote:
>
> I just want to know why the virtualbox has created this entry and if I
> keep it.
>

virtualbox created the directory/files because it needed a place to
temporarily store files it is using…

do not delete them while the system is running.


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In the end we do have some real information. As you saw in the mean time DenverD, it is realy about a repository, but it took some time to let the OP list his repositories.

@jony127
At last in post#12 !! of this thread you posted your repositories. Please next time you post a problem, do add relevant information from the beginning. Not stories, but computer output!
It is also only at post #12 that you tell you are using Virual Box. As long as you keep secret to us what you are using/doing/wanting, you can not expect any usefull reply from others.
Sory, I am a bit naughty to you, but we are all spending our spare time to understand you while you are telling almost nothing.

And please, next time put computer output between CODE tags: Posting in Code Tags - A Guide.

And, as you have seen, now we undestand what you mean, several answers are coming forward.

On 04/05/2011 09:17 AM, DenverD wrote:
> On 04/05/2011 03:36 AM, Ecky wrote:
>>
>> Is it possible one of those 1-click install thingers added it?
>
> you are talking about openSUSE repositories, the poster is talking about
> a /var/tmp directory (which is incorrectly being termed a “repository”)
>
>
>> How it got there, who knows, but your question is what you should do
>> about it
>
> he is talking about a directory /var/tmp/TmpDir.NLNiRT, put there by an
> application and not by a one-click…
>
>
>>
>> As it’s created in a tmp folder jony127 logically it should be safe to
>> remove,
>
> while your logic may be correct, it will lead to a not good practice–in
> Linux you should remove /tmp directory contents while the system is
> not running only! like during boot, this way: http://tinyurl.com/dz446e
>
> /var/tmp has a different problem as it is possible the application which
> put files there may expect them to be there after a boot…
>

sorry…everything in that post is WRONG! (i overlooked the PK_TMP_DIR
in list of repos!)


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2 days later. Talk about LUCK!

On 04/05/2011 09:20 AM, DenverD wrote:
> On 04/05/2011 12:36 AM, jony127 wrote:
>>
>> I just want to know why the virtualbox has created this entry and if I
>> keep it.
>>
>
> virtualbox created the directory/files because it needed a place to
> temporarily store files it is using…
>
> do not delete them while the system is running.
>

everything in that post is WRONG! (i overlooked the PK_TMP_DIR in list
of repos!)

sorry


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2 days later. Talk about LUCK!

On 04/05/2011 10:36 AM, hcvv wrote:
>
> DenverD, it is realy about a repository

WOW–WHACKS forehead! duh!!

i’m off to see the eye doctor…i looked at that list twice, saw a lot
of little ‘problems’ (which i didn’t comment on since other had) but
overlooked #2 because i had gotten in the habit of looking at the blue
URLs (in nntp)…and, since #2 was a local file, it was not in blue

@jony127: delete repository #2 from the list using YaST or zypper

sorry it took so long to get you the correct answer!

by the way, YaST/zypper are usually good at cleaning up their temporary
files/directories…and, usually only leave one orphaned if the session
crashed or is killed by the user…


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Well … The OP had posted his repository list showing the PK_TMP_DIR entry, the dir being the repository source, where we’re used to seeing a url not a directory

In fairness to him he had actually said early on that it was in his yast repository list, I think it was the fact it pointed to a /var/tmp folder confused the issue