Connecting old atapi hard disks

Dear all,
I have tried today to connect some old atapi hard disk (80Gigabytes) through the atapi to usb cable (+ with the external power adapter) to my linux.

I have removed the jumper from the hard disk (which sets it to master or slave).
After connecting it dmesg returns the following message

[25632.104419] generic-usb 0003:045E:0768.0003: can't reset device, 0000:00:1d.7-2.3.4.2/input1, status -71
[25632.108116] generic-usb 0003:045E:075C.0004: can't reset device, 0000:00:1d.7-2.3.4.3/input0, status -71
[25632.122199] usb 2-2.3.4: clear tt 1 (0060) error -71
[25632.153654] generic-usb 0003:045E:0768.0002: can't reset device, 0000:00:1d.7-2.3.4.2/input0, status -71
[25632.161131] generic-usb 0003:045E:075C.0004: can't reset device, 0000:00:1d.7-2.3.4.3/input0, status -71
[25632.197118] generic-usb 0003:045E:075C.0004: can't reset device, 0000:00:1d.7-2.3.4.3/input0, status -71
[25632.198301] generic-usb 0003:045E:0768.0003: can't reset device, 0000:00:1d.7-2.3.4.2/input1, status -71
[25632.213695] usb 2-2.3.4: clear tt 1 (0070) error -71
[25632.248879] generic-usb 0003:045E:075C.0004: can't reset device, 0000:00:1d.7-2.3.4.3/input0, status -71
[25632.257079] usb 2-2.3.4: clear tt 1 (0070) error -71
[25632.275143] generic-usb 0003:045E:0768.0002: can't reset device, 0000:00:1d.7-2.3.4.2/input0, status -71
[25637.204354] generic-usb 0003:045E:0768.0003: can't reset device, 0000:00:1d.7-2.3.4.2/input1, status -110
[25637.248264] generic-usb 0003:045E:075C.0004: can't reset device, 0000:00:1d.7-2.3.4.3/input0, status -110
[25637.776341] generic-usb 0003:045E:0768.0002: can't reset device, 0000:00:1d.7-2.3.4.2/input0, status -110


alaios wrote:

>
> Dear all,
> I have tried today to connect some old atapi hard disk (80Gigabytes)
> through the atapi to usb cable (+ with the external power adapter) to my
> linux.
>
> I have removed the jumper from the hard disk (which sets it to master
> or slave).
> After connecting it dmesg returns the following message
>
>
> Code:
> --------------------
> [25632.104419] generic-usb 0003:045E:0768.0003: can’t reset device,
> [0000:00:1d.7-2.3.4.2/input1, status -71
> [25632.108116] generic-usb 0003:045E:075C.0004: can’t reset device,
> [0000:00:1d.7-2.3.4.3/input0, status -71 25632.122199] usb 2-2.3.4:
> [clear tt 1 (0060) error -71 25632.153654] generic-usb
> [0003:045E:0768.0002: can’t reset device, 0000:00:1d.7-2.3.4.2/input0,
> [status -71 25632.161131] generic-usb 0003:045E:075C.0004: can’t reset
> [device, 0000:00:1d.7-2.3.4.3/input0, status -71 25632.197118]
> [generic-usb 0003:045E:075C.0004: can’t reset device,
> [0000:00:1d.7-2.3.4.3/input0, status -71 25632.198301] generic-usb
> [0003:045E:0768.0003: can’t reset device, 0000:00:1d.7-2.3.4.2/input1,
> [status -71 25632.213695] usb 2-2.3.4: clear tt 1 (0070) error -71
> [25632.248879] generic-usb 0003:045E:075C.0004: can’t reset device,
> [0000:00:1d.7-2.3.4.3/input0, status -71 25632.257079] usb 2-2.3.4:
> [clear tt 1 (0070) error -71 25632.275143] generic-usb
> [0003:045E:0768.0002: can’t reset device, 0000:00:1d.7-2.3.4.2/input0,
> [status -71 25637.204354] generic-usb 0003:045E:0768.0003: can’t reset
> [device, 0000:00:1d.7-2.3.4.2/input1, status -110 25637.248264]
> [generic-usb 0003:045E:075C.0004: can’t reset device,
> [0000:00:1d.7-2.3.4.3/input0, status -110 25637.776341] generic-usb
> 0003:045E:0768.0002: can’t reset device, 0000:00:1d.7-2.3.4.2/input0,
> status -110

I do this fairly frequently and all three of my USB/ATA adapters are
somewhat touchy about the hookup sequence. In general, they all work most
consistenly if I do not apply power until all the other connections are
made. You also will need to select either master or slave with the jumper -
I have all my stack of ATA drives jumpered as master. It seems as though
each of the old klunkers has some quirk depending on the manufacturer.

I also have to supply external power to some adapters with soe drives -
seems the USB power is insufficient or gets applied at the wrong time.


Will Honea

Hello,
I tried in all positions with the jumper and still the same error message.

Can it be that the hard disk is dead? Where I can find more information regarding this message

Regards
Alex

alaios wrote:

>
> Hello,
> I tried in all positions with the jumper and still the same error
> message.
>
> Can it be that the hard disk is dead? Where I can find more information
> regarding this message

It does sound like a dead drive OR a duff adapter. Best way to be sure
would be to scrounge up an old machine/mb with native ATA support and see if
the BIOS can detect the drive on boot.

See if you can tell whether the platter is spinning up as a lot of old
drives will eventually gum up to where it won’t even spin up. You might also
take a close look at the cable connector. It’s not uncommon to get a bent
pin when an old drive has been knocking around under the bench for a while.

This gets into the realm of “ice box starts” etc. If the data on the drive
is important, be prepared to clone/copy the whole thing if it ever starts as
you may get one shot only.


Will Honea