Computer freezing: Trying to find the source of the problems.

There are no proper ways of cleaning the various parts of a PC. I think manufacturers of fans, gfx-cards etc. build their products in a way that it can not be cleaned easily on purpose, so they have to be replaced sooner as necessary.

I myself clean my PC with a vacuum cleaner set at lowest power. But one has to be very very careful with that in order not to destroy loose parts. Fans etc. should also be fixed, otherwise they might spin too fast. As I said: there’s no proper way.

Re cleaning:

I live in a warm sub-tropical climate. I need to clean my PC at least annually to keep operating temperatures down.

I dismantle the whole box and use a soft paint brush to dust off the components and motherboard. I always remove and disassemble heatsink and fan assemblies. Heat sinks rely on air movement to move heat away, so any dust build up between the fins will definitely reduce thermal efficiency. I clean the vanes on the fans with a brush and then a slightly damp cloth.

(On my most recent clean just a week ago, I even opened out the PSU to get dust out and clean the fan properly).

After removal of heatsink and fan, I carefully clean off the heat transfer compound from the mating surfaces of the cpu/gpu and the heatsink, and apply fresh heat transfer compound.

Yes, it is a painful task and can take one to two hours. But yes, it definitely worth the effort in terms of thermal management and lower noise.

Paul

On 2010-11-21 23:06, prhunt wrote:

> Yes, it is a painful task and can take one to two hours. But yes, it
> definitely worth the effort in terms of thermal management and lower
> noise.

If you have so much dust, then you have other problems. Perhaps you put the
computer on the floor, that’s a no-no, but very common. Otherwise, put air
filters. I’m thinking of using bandages on one of mine :-p


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)

Well, I don’t believe it really is a problem. I use several case ventilating fans, so there is a lot of air movment through the case, and with that comes dust. However, I don’t have filters, which is something I could consider.

Paul

On 2010-11-22 04:36, prhunt wrote:

> Well, I don’t believe it really is a problem. I use several case
> ventilating fans, so there is a lot of air movment through the case, and
> with that comes dust. However, I don’t have filters, which is something
> I could consider.

You should… I don’t have to clean the inside of my computers in years. I
don’t think all that (dis)assembling is very good. A pin could break.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)

Recently I find functional software which can fix all these problems just with one click: tuneup360, maybe you guys could have a try.

On 2010-12-15 09:36, rcmz wrote:
>
> Recently I find functional software which can fix all these problems
> just with one click: tuneup360, maybe you guys could have a try.

This package is not available in any repo, or you mistyped the name.
You should give more info.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)

On Wed, 15 Dec 2010 19:20:07 +0530, Carlos E. R.
<robin_listas@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

> On 2010-12-15 09:36, rcmz wrote:
>>
>> Recently I find functional software which can fix all these problems
>> just with one click: tuneup360, maybe you guys could have a try.
>
> This package is not available in any repo, or you mistyped the name.
> You should give more info.
>

isn’t very difficult to find: http://www.tuneup360.com . it’s meant for
windows though, doubt it will do much good for openSUSE systems…


phani.

phanisvara wrote:
> doubt it will do much good for openSUSE systems…

is spam


DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD [posted via NNTP w/openSUSE 10.3]
I feel annoyed that I can’t put my wide range of languages on stupid
Facebook. For example, I speak Sarcasm, fluently spoken and written,
and Various Forms of Geek…

On 2010-12-15 15:46, DenverD wrote:
> phanisvara wrote:
>> doubt it will do much good for openSUSE systems…
>
> is spam

How do you know? :-?


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)

Carlos E. R. wrote:

> How do you know? :-?

smart!

have you looked at the site offering this software?

and look at this:
http://www.google.com/search?q=“Recently+I+find+functional+software+which+can+fix+all+these+problems+just+with+one+click”

this particular SPAMMER has “recently found” this software many times
since July, at least…and has dropped her ad many times!

my guess is they have a google alert set to send them the url of
everyone who writes “computer freezing” [like in the subject] and then
they drop their SPAM in on unsuspecting folks who can’t use it…


DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD [posted via NNTP w/openSUSE 10.3]
I feel annoyed that I can’t put my wide range of languages on stupid
Facebook. For example, I speak Sarcasm, fluently spoken and written,
and Various Forms of Geek…

Will nuke this part of the thread soon as spam… nntp please don’t respond!

On 2010-12-15 18:06, malcolmlewis wrote:
>
> Will nuke this part of the thread soon as spam… nntp please don’t
> respond!

Please, tell me first how do you know it is spam? It is a serious question,
I really do not know.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)

Carlos E. R. wrote:
> Please, tell me first how do you know it is spam? It is a serious question,
> I really do not know.

did you not see my answer?


DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD [posted via NNTP w/openSUSE 10.3]
I feel annoyed that I can’t put my wide range of languages on stupid
Facebook. For example, I speak Sarcasm, fluently spoken and written,
and Various Forms of Geek…

On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 01:08:24 +0530, DenverD
<DenverD@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

> Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> Please, tell me first how do you know it is spam? It is a serious
>> question,
>> I really do not know.
>
> did you not see my answer?
>

of course, you’re free to go ahead and explain the difference between
windows & linux to a spam bot.

if it’s not spam, it makes as much sense as trying to sell a crate of beer
at an alcoholics anonymous meeting.


phani.

On 2010-12-15 20:38, DenverD wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> Please, tell me first how do you know it is spam? It is a serious question,
>> I really do not know.
>
> did you not see my answer?

I see that you said “is spam”, nothing else. I have no idea why you say
that it is spam. Perhaps a troll, but I haven’t tracked his messages. I
only know that he posted a message telling to use some software that turned
out to be windows software, which is absurd in a linux thread. But spam?
What can he gain?

I only know that you say that it is spam, then Malcolm saying that he will
block the thread - why?

I really want to know. Perhaps you know something else that you can share
so that next time I also knows that it is spam - I know how to detect spam
in email, but forums elude me :slight_smile:


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)

On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 02:20:07 +0530, Carlos E. R.
<robin_listas@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

> On 2010-12-15 20:38, DenverD wrote:
>> Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>> Please, tell me first how do you know it is spam? It is a serious
>>> question,
>>> I really do not know.
>>
>> did you not see my answer?
>
> I see that you said “is spam”, nothing else. I have no idea why you say
> that it is spam. Perhaps a troll, but I haven’t tracked his messages. I
> only know that he posted a message telling to use some software that
> turned
> out to be windows software, which is absurd in a linux thread. But spam?
> What can he gain?
>
> I only know that you say that it is spam, then Malcolm saying that he
> will
> block the thread - why?
>
> I really want to know. Perhaps you know something else that you can share
> so that next time I also knows that it is spam - I know how to detect
> spam
> in email, but forums elude me :slight_smile:
>

somehow you seem to have missed a message from DenverD:


> How do you know? :-?

smart!

have you looked at the site offering this software?

and look at this:
http://www.google.com/search?q=“Recently+I+find+functional+software+which+can+fix+all+these+problems+just+with+one+click”

this particular SPAMMER has “recently found” this software many times
since July, at least…and has dropped her ad many times!

my guess is they have a google alert set to send them the url of
everyone who writes “computer freezing” [like in the subject] and then
they drop their SPAM in on unsuspecting folks who can’t use it…


phani.

Hi
@ phanisvara and Carlos

Did you both not see my message about replying to the spam message??


Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11 (x86_64) Kernel 2.6.32.24-0.2-default
up 2 days 22:15, 2 users, load average: 0.03, 0.08, 0.07
GPU GeForce 8600 GTS Silent - Driver Version: 260.19.29

On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 02:33:45 +0530, malcolmlewis
<malcolmlewis@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

> Did you both not see my message about replying to the spam message??

i did, but i thought you were going to delete these messages anyway, so a
couple more wouldn’t cause much grief?


phani.

On 2010-12-15 21:54, phanisvara wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Dec 2010 02:20:07 +0530, Carlos E. R.
> <> wrote:
>
>> On 2010-12-15 20:38, DenverD wrote:

> somehow you seem to have missed a message from DenverD:
>
> ------------------------
>> How do you know? :-?
>
> smart!

Certainly, I haven’t got that one. No idea why.

> have you looked at the site offering this software?

Nop :slight_smile:

I was curious, and flagged the message for looking at it at some other time.

And it didn’t occur to me to do a google search for the message. How… why
did it occur to you? Ah, perhaps you have seen that one before.

> my guess is they have a google alert set to send them the url of
> everyone who writes “computer freezing” [like in the subject]

That would be smart of them.

> and then
> they drop their SPAM in on unsuspecting folks who can’t use it…

And that would be very dumb. You have to register first, waste a lot of
time… all for nothing.

The last nail would be that the software in question could be malware!


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)