I’ve had OpenSuSe installed for about 2 months now on my new laptop. I know there must be a million threads about this by now. I just want to confirm a few things - if anyone could do so for me…
First two weeks, I’ve had compiz fusion running (I absolutely love it) but it causes X11 to ‘freeze’. My mouse is still capable of moving around - the only escape is a hard reboot by holding the power button.
I’ve since then switched to xcompmgr which provides some of that transparency support I like to have with my terms. Since switching to xcompmgr, I have achieved an uptime of 14 days. Feeling cocky, I re-enabled compiz and froze up within 30 minutes.
Am I doomed?
Desktop Environment:
GNOME
More about my laptop:
Dell Inspiron 13
Core2Duo 2.0 Ghz
240GB disk size
3 GB of RAM
Intel X310 graphic adapter
I have wireless working just fine using ndiswrapper. (Freezing X11 problem occurred even before I figured out the ndiswrapper deal).
lspci output:
adam@loki:~> lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub (rev 0c)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 02)
00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 02)
00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 02)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 02)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 4 (rev 02)
00:1c.5 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 6 (rev 02)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev f2)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801HEM (ICH8M) LPC Interface Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E) IDE Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E) SATA AHCI Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
03:01.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Ricoh Co Ltd R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller (rev 05)
03:01.1 SD Host controller: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter (rev 22)
03:01.2 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C843 MMC Host Controller (rev 12)
03:01.3 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter (rev 12)
03:01.4 System peripheral: Ricoh Co Ltd xD-Picture Card Controller (rev ff)
09:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM5906M Fast Ethernet PCI Express (rev 02)
0c:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4328 802.11a/b/g/n (rev 03)
It is possible that your problem is related to your graphics adapter.
I used to have Compiz working fine in openSUSE 11.0, but for hardware
subjects, I have to use openSUSE 11.1. I have tried Compiz with both
KDE 3.5 and 4.1, but it does not work in none.
See? The same of your graphics card (unfortunately). :’(
The good news is that there are new drivers for Intel graphics cards
available since April 15 (see Intel Linux Graphics). The bad news are that I am afraid about installing this driver this drivers in my system
and have it bad working, and I do not know if there will be a openSUSE
update with this driver. Maybe it will be available only on the next release
of openSUSE (11.2). I really do not know.
For now, I have given up from Compiz and 3D games on my laptop.
I, too, have given up on Compz and 3D games. I don’t really care too much about ‘eye’ candy, but it is NICE. I might take a look at the new drivers but… I have 2 children and a more than full-time job… so barely any time to mess around with something that might make my desktop unusable.
I Just got a new case from my friend so I may be able to setup a desktop for OpenSuse and let my wife have this laptop. I’ll aim for a netbook shortly after.
Maybe someone more daring can test and see if Intel X310 graphics adapter does not freeze up with compiz.
At this point I’m thankful for xcompmgr as I have no issues with that.
papashou wrote:
> Can anyone offer any alternative assistance with this?
with a wife, two kids, more than a full time job and unable to devote
loads of time to tweaking for “eye candy”, then a good alternative is
to NOT do that…just use your tool as a tool and stop wanting it to
be cool LOOKING…
turn off compiz, desktop effects and see if the time to get it to work
goes WAY down…if not, then i have to GUESS (since you never said)
that you are using KDE4.x and, if so and you want REAL stability, then
install and use KDE3.x or GNOME…
I had almost the same problem, but the system didn’t freeze, but verry slow. Checked and ALL graphics was slowed down 24 times. This happens when the auto-hide of the (Plasma)start-panel (if it is called start-panel?) is enabled. Disable makes the system run at normal speed. Even the clock slowed down. Haven’t checked if there are som other things makes it slow down, but thats the only thing I found that causes it for me.
openSuSE 11.1, KDE 4.2, Plasma ???, Compiz-Fusion 0.7.8
Just for the hell of it , I installed ArchLinux i686 (my CPU supports x64). My freezing issue disappeared entirely, and the compiz effects are extremely quick / responsive.
I’m starting to think it’s opensuse…
I will be installing the X64 version of Arch tomorrow or this Sat… when I get time.
I wish people would learn to detach the concept of a distribution of that of a single component, in this case a single driver.
The intel driver that shipped with 11.1 is notoriously bad, unfortunately for reason or another there have been no adapter driver updates (and no one has packaged the driver in the build service) and since I don’t have an Intel adapter anywhere, I can’t package it reliably as I have no test platform to try it on.
Are we resorting to childish antics… “I was going to, but now I don’t feel like it.”?
If you have the resources, then help your community by providing the support it needs… don’t do it for me…
I can’t imagine that Novell or their community wouldn’t have done anything to fix the Intel drivers because there’s a large amount of fairly recent hardware (netbooks, laptops) using this family of integrated graphics chipset.
Going by your responses towards me, maybe I shouldn’t be surprised at all.
Just installed Archlinux x86_64… gnome desktop, compiz… and thrashed the windows around, spun the cube, put on the shift switcher and spammed WIN+TAB… no freeze up. This would usually lock my previous OpenSuSe 11.1 install.
So far, it’s working. This may be obvious to some but, the x64 version is much more responsive than the i686 with my laptop’s core2duo processor.
For those of you wanting to use Compiz with your Intel graphics processor and experiencing odd lockups, it may be a good intermediary solution until Novell + Community moves to fix this.
Hi
Running Gnome here with the 945 on this netbook, I have yet to have any
issues when running compiz?? Infact I was quite impressed when I first
installed openSuSE 11.1 and was all working from the getgo.
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Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 11.1 (i586) Kernel 2.6.27.21-0.1-pae
up 2 days 10:31, 1 user, load average: 0.72, 0.37, 0.25
ASUS eeePC 1000HE ATOM N280 1.66GHz | GPU Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME
Those are basically the same exact symptoms I had. It’s most likely due to the Intel drivers included with OpenSuSE. If you ssh into your computer and do an ‘htop’ you will see compiz being pegged at 100%. If you kill it, you’ll get your desktop back.
Ok, that sounds interesting but above my head. I assume ssh into my laptop means access / login it remotely. Do I need to do something on my laptop to allow ssh?
ssh into your computer doesn’t mean remotely. you can log in to your computer via ssh. in fact this the first test i do to see if my ssh works.(port is open, ssh runs,etc). the ssh service should be running(if not install it from yast and setup the firewall to run it, but be aware that the port 22(or any other lower ports) are scanned by hackers to get into your computer. A solution is to change the ssh port to a higher range, but i would advise you to read on this topic, other way you will see lots of attempts to hack your laptop in /var/log/messages up to the point that it will kill your connection.
SSH may not have to be remote login - but when your X11 session is frozen, I don’t think you’ll have any chance of opening a terminal session.
But ditto on the setting SSH on another port- that will deter most people that use a script to bruteforce login your box. Smarter folks will scan your machine for open ports and attempt to figure out what it’s for.
ArchLinux will require some working knowledge of Linux configuration, patience, and several hours of reading documentation.