Compaq Deskpro Install Problems

I have a Compaq Deskpro EN P3 733 mhz
with 384 meg of ram, and
40 G Western Digital hard drive (set as Master on ide0 (primary))
NEC 3550 DVD Burner (set as Master on ide1 (secondary))

BIOS sees both devices correctly.

Both devices worked correctly when I had Windows XP loaded on the machine.

It won’t load Linux (Ubuntu 8.04/alternative text installer or SuSE 10.3) onto the hard drive for love or money.

I used a win98SE floppy and fdisk’d the hard drive. Created Primary Dos Partition, the whole disc.

Next I did an fdisk /mbr to put a boot block out there. When I boot to the hard drive, it tells me there is no os. Which if it tells me that much, I know the MBR is there, and it’s working. Here’s the problem.

I’ve played with the APIC (Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller) settings. Disabling it,
would have forced the machine into legacy mode.

Anyway I don’t think that’s the problem. Ubuntu just goes into a reboot loop. It comes up, looks
around and reboots. APIC or NOAPIC.

Both SuSE and Ubuntu otoh, get far enough along to tell me it can’t find the hard drive. Huh? I can alway get that message there is no operating system on the hard drive - so I know the MBR is there. I don’t want to
install “over the top” of Windows, I want to make Windows go away and install it 100% Linux. But everything
I’ve tried fails.

One thing I DID do, is I update the BIOS as well. Well. I had a Version 2 bios, it now has a version 3
bios (latest and greatest). Umm the latest BIOS is still over 6 years old!

What’s the trick? Is this machine so old, that windows is all it will ever run? If so, maybe I ought to
just donate to some school. It DID have WINDOWS XP running on it, when I got it. And that seemed fine.

I also ran the built in disc diagnostics, and that ran clean.

Wayno G.

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 21:56:04 GMT
therian <therian@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

>
> I have a Compaq Deskpro EN P3 733 mhz
> with 384 meg of ram, and
> 40 G Western Digital hard drive (set as Master on ide0 (primary))
> NEC 3550 DVD Burner (set as Master on ide1 (secondary))
>
> BIOS sees both devices correctly.
>
> Both devices worked correctly when I had Windows XP loaded on the
> machine.
>
> It won’t load Linux (Ubuntu 8.04/alternative text installer or SuSE
> 10.3) onto the hard drive for love or money.
>
> I used a win98SE floppy and fdisk’d the hard drive. Created Primary
> Dos Partition, the whole disc.
>
> Next I did an fdisk /mbr to put a boot block out there. When I boot to
> the hard drive, it tells me there is no os. Which if it tells me that
> much, I know the MBR is there, and it’s working. Here’s the problem.
>
> I’ve played with the APIC (Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller)
> settings. Disabling it,
> would have forced the machine into legacy mode.
>
> Anyway I don’t think that’s the problem. Ubuntu just goes into a
> reboot loop. It comes up, looks
> around and reboots. APIC or NOAPIC.
>
> Both SuSE and Ubuntu otoh, get far enough along to tell me it can’t
> find the hard drive. Huh? I can alway get that message there is no
> operating system on the hard drive - so I know the MBR is there. I
> don’t want to
> install “over the top” of Windows, I want to make Windows go away and
> install it 100% Linux. But everything
> I’ve tried fails.
>
> One thing I DID do, is I update the BIOS as well. Well. I had a
> Version 2 bios, it now has a version 3
> bios (latest and greatest). Umm the latest BIOS is still over 6 years
> old!
>
> What’s the trick? Is this machine so old, that windows is all it will
> ever run? If so, maybe I ought to
> just donate to some school. It DID have WINDOWS XP running on it, when
> I got it. And that seemed fine.
>
> I also ran the built in disc diagnostics, and that ran clean.
>
> Wayno G.
>
>

Compaq had a habit of putting the hard drive in ‘cable select’ mode, which
strangely wasn’t quite fully compatible, but it works on their hardware.

Check and change if necessary the jumpers on the hard drive to put it …

wait…

older western digital drive… they had a quirk in which if they were the
ONLY drive on a cable, you really should remove the jumper entirely,
otherwise it wouldn’t be found properly.

The DVD is fine, it’s on it’s own IDE bus and won’t affect, or be affected by
this.

Oddly enough, it might have worked if both were on the same cable… such was
the WD jumper select issues.

Loni

L R Nix
lornix@lornix.com

Son of a *****! If I could buy you a beer I would. That worked perfectly! Thank you kind sir!

Wayno
:slight_smile:

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:36:03 GMT
therian <therian@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:

>
> Son of a *****! If I could buy you a beer I would. That worked
> perfectly! Thank you kind sir!
>
> Wayno
> :slight_smile:
>
>

{Chuckle} You’re welcome.

You tell him Malcolm… {Grin}

Loni


L R Nix
lornix@lornix.com

{laughing}

Loni’s post stalker here…

Wayno, that should be “Thank you kind M’ame!”


Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
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therian wrote:
> If I could buy you a beer I would. That worked perfectly!

Loni, perhaps you should set a tip jar on your desktop (with paypal maybe), so
folks could drop some change in as you lighten their day with your on target
posts!!!


DenverD (Linux Counter 282315) via NNTP crafted by Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 in KDE
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On Thu, 14 Aug 2008 11:13:18 GMT
DenverD <spam.trap@Texan.dk> wrote:

> therian wrote:
> > If I could buy you a beer I would. That worked perfectly!
>
> Loni, perhaps you should set a tip jar on your desktop (with paypal maybe),
> so folks could drop some change in as you lighten their day with your on
> target posts!!!
>

That’s be wonderful… but sure would seem presumptuous to me. At this point
in time, I’d love to receive donations (for anything!)… but I won’t beg,
and this is a place to give help, not solicit… right? (psst! Meet me
around back in the alley…) I suppose people could contact me privately if
they were so inclined… my email and yahoo are listed. Heck, I’m not even
hiding my email here… {Grin} I’m so brave! (I chose to have it not
obscured… Not hiding… find me!)

And as for on-target posts… I suppose. I don’t think I’m a guru or wizard
or anything… to me, those are monikers which have to be granted by someone
else… kinda like you can’t choose your own nickname. Just isn’t “how its
done”, right?

I have been blessed (or cursed really!) with a near perfect photographic
memory, and been interested in computers and electronics since I was 8 (I
turn 40 next month, you do the math)… so I’ve seen and worked with quite a
few systems, OS’s and hardware.

Seeing as how I don’t have a bank account anymore (Yes, got hit THAT hard),
paypal wouldn’t help since I couldn’t transfer it anywhere. {Sigh}

Loni


L R Nix
lornix@lornix.com