I’ve been trying Claws as e-mailer but it is horrendously slow. It makes
watching paint dry seem unbearably exciting. CPU goes up to 50% (one
processor) at times but that’s Xorg and was doing that before Claws was
installed. Also, everything runs dead slow or stop with CPU at only
10-20%. As soon as I closed down Claws, everything began whizzing along
again.
Anyone else tried Claws on KDE?
I think I’ll try installing a Gnome system and see what happens there.
Makes some sort of sense to give Gnome yet another go as most of the
software I use is primarily designed to run on that.
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Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 11.4 (64-bit); KDE 4.7.3; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nVidia driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306
Am 12.11.2011 20:34, schrieb Cloddy:
> I’ve been trying Claws as e-mailer but it is horrendously slow. It makes
> watching paint dry seem unbearably exciting. CPU goes up to 50% (one
> processor) at times but that’s Xorg and was doing that before Claws was
> installed. Also, everything runs dead slow or stop with CPU at only
> 10-20%. As soon as I closed down Claws, everything began whizzing along
> again.
>
> Anyone else tried Claws on KDE?
>
Yes I tried claws just a few days ago since I decided to bypass kmail2
and had a look which mail client will give me the best user experience
and performance.
To make a long story short: I could not see anything you describe above,
it (claws) just was lightning fast with 3 imap mail accounts configured
on the Eee PC in the footer (when I tested kde 4.6 was my kde version, I
just upgraded kde after I found my new favorite mail client which is
thunderbird 8).
I am afraid you ran into an unrelated problem (unrelated to kde)
specific for your setup.
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4.6.0 | GeForce GT 420 | 16GB Ram
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nVidia ION | 3GB Ram
On Sat, 12 Nov 2011 19:49:28 +0000, Martin Helm wrote:
> Am 12.11.2011 20:34, schrieb Cloddy:
>> I’ve been trying Claws as e-mailer but it is horrendously slow. It
>> makes watching paint dry seem unbearably exciting. CPU goes up to 50%
>> (one processor) at times but that’s Xorg and was doing that before
>> Claws was installed. Also, everything runs dead slow or stop with CPU
>> at only 10-20%. As soon as I closed down Claws, everything began
>> whizzing along again.
>>
>> Anyone else tried Claws on KDE?
>>
> Yes I tried claws just a few days ago since I decided to bypass kmail2
In my experience, you’ve made a wise choice!
> To make a long story short: I could not see anything you describe above,
> it (claws) just was lightning fast with 3 imap mail accounts configured
> on the Eee PC in the footer (when I tested kde 4.6 was my kde version, I
> just upgraded kde after I found my new favorite mail client which is
> thunderbird 8).
How long was Claws running? For me, it’s been starting fast but it slows
down after around an hour and brings everything else to almost a
standstill.
I’ve been using TB8 and having trouble with that too. Worst is that I’ve
altered the junk settings in the accounts but they haven’t stayed set.
Meant that an important mail has been labelled spam and disappeared into
the ether. I’ll have to raise a bug report for that one.
> I am afraid you ran into an unrelated problem (unrelated to kde)
> specific for your setup.
I suspect you’re right. Just tried Claws on Gnome and it was lightning
fast. Unfortunately, it crashed when I tried to load the “fancy” plugin.
I was running 12.1 so may be a bug. I’ll try Gnome on 11.4 tomorrow and
see if it slows down or not.
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Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 11.4 (64-bit); KDE 4.7.2; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nVidia driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306
Am 13.11.2011 00:08, schrieb Cloddy:
>> Yes I tried claws just a few days ago since I decided to bypass
>> kmail2
>
> In my experience, you’ve made a wise choice!
>
I did extensive testing with kmail2 two times (two times with 11.4 with
kde 4.7 and one time with 12.1 RC2), well it worked with a lot of effort
including manual migration of my accounts (the automatic one failed
every time miserably) but not in a satisfying way, I do not want to get
into it otherwise I need to start a never ending rant about all my
wasted time.
I do not know how long I used kmail (many years! I think 8), but that
was it now.
> How long was Claws running? For me, it’s been starting fast but it
slows
> down after around an hour and brings everything else to almost a
> standstill.
>
I used it for several hours (I am not sure maybe 4-5 hours) to get an
idea how it is, in general it is not bad (no that is too negative, it is
a good program as far as I can say after only playing with it) but not
my cup of tea.
> I’ve been using TB8 and having trouble with that too. Worst is that
> I’ve altered the junk settings in the accounts but they haven’t
> stayed set.
Did not test the junk settings until now.
>> I am afraid you ran into an unrelated problem (unrelated to kde)
>> specific for your setup.
>
> I suspect you’re right. Just tried Claws on Gnome and it was
> lightning fast. Unfortunately, it crashed when I tried to load the
> “fancy” plugin.
Maybe it is a bug in the plugin itself.
> I was running 12.1 so may be a bug. I’ll try Gnome on 11.4 tomorrow
> and see if it slows down or not.
My claws test was on 11.4 kde 4.6 only, on 12.1 with kde 4.7 I did not
test it, so it can be an incompatibility between the newer kde and claws
(?).
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nVidia ION | 3GB Ram
I have been using claws with KDE since 11.3 came out. So that’s over a year. I have not noticed what you describe in 11.3 or 11.4. I haven’t done much testing of claws with 12.1.
>I’ve been trying Claws as e-mailer but it is horrendously slow. It
>makes watching paint dry seem unbearably exciting. CPU goes up to 50%
>(one processor) at times but that’s Xorg and was doing that before
>Claws was installed. Also, everything runs dead slow or stop with CPU
>at only 10-20%. As soon as I closed down Claws, everything began
>whizzing along again.
>
>Anyone else tried Claws on KDE?
>
>I think I’ll try installing a Gnome system and see what happens there.
>Makes some sort of sense to give Gnome yet another go as most of the
>software I use is primarily designed to run on that.
>
>
I use claws on KDE and have no issues. I recently tossed thunderbird
(my printing problem with all mozilla) and run since claws and its a
breeze on my setup.
It may be a database issue? Not sure, but i don’t think its claws that
taken the cpu down.
Euer Komputerfriek Joerg
using KDE on 11.4 x64 and happy with a cup of real hot coffee…
Need help? Call 207.252.3.96 (really)
> I use claws on KDE and have no issues. I recently tossed thunderbird
> (my printing problem with all mozilla) and run since claws and its a
> breeze on my setup.
> It may be a database issue? Not sure, but i don’t think its claws that
> taken the cpu down.
I’m a bit frightened to admit this in case it all goes pear-shaped but
I’ve no problems this morning and the PC’s been up for 12+ hours. The
only change I’ve made is to replace Spamassassin with Bogofilter as the
latter is supposed to be quicker.
The slow running was not associated with CPU-hogging. I’m not sure
what else could cause everything to grind to a virtual halt. I/O
trouble?
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Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 11.4 (64-bit); KDE 4.7.2; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nVidia driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306
On 2011-11-13 12:24, Cloddy wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 04:14:42 GMT
> JoergJaeger <> wrote:
> I’m a bit frightened to admit this in case it all goes pear-shaped but
> I’ve no problems this morning and the PC’s been up for 12+ hours. The
> only change I’ve made is to replace Spamassassin with Bogofilter as the
> latter is supposed to be quicker.
>
> The slow running was not associated with CPU-hogging. I’m not sure
> what else could cause everything to grind to a virtual halt. I/O
> trouble?
A problem with SpamAssassin is that sometimes it tries network tests that
take a few seconds to respond, or that are broken and do not respond at
all. During that time CPU is nil, waiting for a response. But the result is
that mail processing is slow.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
> On 2011-11-13 12:24, Cloddy wrote:
> > On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 04:14:42 GMT
> > JoergJaeger <> wrote:
>
> > I’m a bit frightened to admit this in case it all goes pear-shaped
> > but I’ve no problems this morning and the PC’s been up for 12+
> > hours. The only change I’ve made is to replace Spamassassin with
> > Bogofilter as the latter is supposed to be quicker.
> >
> > The slow running was not associated with CPU-hogging. I’m not sure
> > what else could cause everything to grind to a virtual halt. I/O
> > trouble?
>
> A problem with SpamAssassin is that sometimes it tries network tests
> that take a few seconds to respond, or that are broken and do not
> respond at all. During that time CPU is nil, waiting for a response.
> But the result is that mail processing is slow.
>
I’ve used Spamassassin in TB and Kmail without any delays of the
magnitude that affected Claws. One thing I found is that Claws needs
the spamd daemon to be running, which neither of the other two require.
Perhaps this explains the difference?
Anyway, this means I can now give Claws a good workout. Thanks to
everyone for the helpful comments.
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Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 11.4 (64-bit); KDE 4.7.2; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nVidia driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306
On 2011-11-13 15:28, Cloddy wrote:
> On Sun, 13 Nov 2011 12:53:06 GMT
> “Carlos E. R.” <> wrote:
> I’ve used Spamassassin in TB and Kmail without any delays of the
> magnitude that affected Claws. One thing I found is that Claws needs
> the spamd daemon to be running, which neither of the other two require.
> Perhaps this explains the difference?
It really depends on the set of rules it uses.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
> I’ve been trying Claws as e-mailer but it is horrendously slow. It
> makes watching paint dry seem unbearably exciting. CPU goes up to 50%
> (one processor) at times but that’s Xorg and was doing that before
> Claws was installed. Also, everything runs dead slow or stop with CPU
> at only 10-20%. As soon as I closed down Claws, everything began
> whizzing along again.
Thanks to all who have contributed to this thread but a response to my
query on gmane.mail.sylpheed.claws.general suggested that the vcalendar
plug-in could be the problem. I’ve unplugged it and, so far, the deadly
slow performance has gone. I’ll give it another day or two before
hanging out the flags and letting off the fireworks.
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Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 11.4 (64-bit); KDE 4.7.3; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nVidia driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306
Am 26.11.2011 17:18, schrieb Cloddy:
> Thanks to all who have contributed to this thread but a response to my
> query on gmane.mail.sylpheed.claws.general suggested that the vcalendar
> plug-in could be the problem. I’ve unplugged it and, so far, the deadly
> slow performance has gone. I’ll give it another day or two before
> hanging out the flags and letting off the fireworks.
>
Thank you for sharing that information and please tell us also the
outcome in a few days it might help other people.
I hope that result will be “hanging out the flags and letting off the
fireworks”
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PC: oS 11.4 (dual boot 12.1) 64 bit | Intel Core i7-2600@3.40GHz | KDE
4.6.0 | GeForce GT 420 | 16GB Ram
Eee PC 1201n: oS 11.4 64 bit | Intel Atom 330@1.60GHz | KDE 4.7.3 |
nVidia ION | 3GB Ram
On 26/11/11 16:25, Martin Helm wrote:
> Am 26.11.2011 17:18, schrieb Cloddy:
>> Thanks to all who have contributed to this thread but a response to my
>> query on gmane.mail.sylpheed.claws.general suggested that the vcalendar
>> plug-in could be the problem. I’ve unplugged it and, so far, the deadly
>> slow performance has gone. I’ll give it another day or two before
>> hanging out the flags and letting off the fireworks.
>>
> Thank you for sharing that information and please tell us also the
> outcome in a few days it might help other people.
> I hope that result will be “hanging out the flags and letting off the
> fireworks”
>
The bunting and fireworks are back in their boxes and stored away in the
loft. The problem is back. Maybe I’ll try dumping another plug-in.
Looking at how the problem manifests itself, I’m wondering whether it
may be graphics-related as the screen takes ages to refresh when just
changing apps and desktops.
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Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 11.4 (64-bit); KDE 4.7.3; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nVidia driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306
On 27/11/11 14:53, Graham P Davis wrote:
> On 26/11/11 16:25, Martin Helm wrote:
>> Am 26.11.2011 17:18, schrieb Cloddy:
>>> Thanks to all who have contributed to this thread but a response to my
>>> query on gmane.mail.sylpheed.claws.general suggested that the vcalendar
>>> plug-in could be the problem. I’ve unplugged it and, so far, the deadly
>>> slow performance has gone. I’ll give it another day or two before
>>> hanging out the flags and letting off the fireworks.
>>>
>> Thank you for sharing that information and please tell us also the
>> outcome in a few days it might help other people.
>> I hope that result will be “hanging out the flags and letting off the
>> fireworks”
>>
>
> The bunting and fireworks are back in their boxes and stored away in the
> loft. The problem is back. Maybe I’ll try dumping another plug-in.
>
> Looking at how the problem manifests itself, I’m wondering whether it
> may be graphics-related as the screen takes ages to refresh when just
> changing apps and desktops.
>
>
Looks as if it’s tied into the nVidia drivers. I had no trouble when
using nouveau but after replacing with nVidia and running Claws for a
couple of hours, everything slowed to a crawl again. Closing Claws got
everything going again.
Unfortunately, I doubt I can use nouveau on 11.4 as the system keeps
freezing every so often and requiring a tap on the reset button. I’m
hoping that now I’m back on nVidia, it will not happen again. Fingers
crossed.
I’d try Claws on 12.1 with nouveau but, of course, Claws doesn’t work on
12.1. Bug in “fancy” fixed by Claws at end of September but that hasn’t
got through to 12.1 yet.
–
Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 11.4 (64-bit); KDE 4.7.3; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nVidia driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306
On Fri, 09 Dec 2011 14:48:15 +0000, Graham P Davis wrote:
> On 27/11/11 14:53, Graham P Davis wrote:
>> On 26/11/11 16:25, Martin Helm wrote:
>>> Am 26.11.2011 17:18, schrieb Cloddy:
>>>> Thanks to all who have contributed to this thread but a response to
>>>> my query on gmane.mail.sylpheed.claws.general suggested that the
>>>> vcalendar plug-in could be the problem. I’ve unplugged it and, so
>>>> far, the deadly slow performance has gone. I’ll give it another day
>>>> or two before hanging out the flags and letting off the fireworks.
>>>>
>>> Thank you for sharing that information and please tell us also the
>>> outcome in a few days it might help other people.
>>> I hope that result will be “hanging out the flags and letting off the
>>> fireworks”
>>>
>>>
>> The bunting and fireworks are back in their boxes and stored away in
>> the loft. The problem is back. Maybe I’ll try dumping another plug-in.
>>
>> Looking at how the problem manifests itself, I’m wondering whether it
>> may be graphics-related as the screen takes ages to refresh when just
>> changing apps and desktops.
>>
>>
>>
> Looks as if it’s tied into the nVidia drivers. I had no trouble when
> using nouveau but after replacing with nVidia and running Claws for a
> couple of hours, everything slowed to a crawl again. Closing Claws got
> everything going again.
>
> Unfortunately, I doubt I can use nouveau on 11.4 as the system keeps
> freezing every so often and requiring a tap on the reset button. I’m
> hoping that now I’m back on nVidia, it will not happen again. Fingers
> crossed.
>
> I’d try Claws on 12.1 with nouveau but, of course, Claws doesn’t work on
> 12.1. Bug in “fancy” fixed by Claws at end of September but that hasn’t
> got through to 12.1 yet.
Also discovered that Kontact has the same effect. Graphics gradually slow
down then recover immediately Kontact is closed. Makes this bug even more
confusing as it seems it cannot to be related to Gnome/KDE
inconsistencies.
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Graham Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 11.4 (64-bit); KDE 4.7.3; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nVidia driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306
