changing kickoff icon in Leap 42.2

There are differences between changing the kickoff icon in Leap 42.1 and Leap 42.2

https://easgs.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/screenshot_20161204_204810_ink_li.jpg

In this Leap 42.1 image you can see that you have the option to choose an icon from a list, and the option to select a file too.

https://easgs.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/opensuse-san-2016-12-05-14-06-59_ink_li.jpg

In this Leap 42.2 screenshot you can see that there is only the option to select a file to change the Kickoff icon, the icons list from leap 42.1 is gone, as a suggestion I think it was better to have the icon list as before.

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You are right, but it’s a KDE thing rather than openSUSE, might be worth letting your feelings known on the KDE forum.

FYI icons are stored in: **/usr/share/icons/ **so you look through those and select what you want, use Dolphin to get the exact path for the one you want.

No offence meant to you, David, for making what should be a logical suggestion, in other development communities. However …

I won’t explain why, if you are not already aware, but I find this to be an absolutely hilarious suggestion.rotfl!


I don’t find this too hilarious. It is a KDE developpers issue. But your unexplained why suggest a sad reason.

Actually there are no changes at all in this regard between 42.1 and 42.2.

Kickoff does still have the same configuration dialog and does open the icon selection dialog.
Kicker (the “application menu”) that openSUSE uses by default, does not however, but that was already the case in 42.1 as well.

If you want to switch to Kickoff (the "application launcher), right-click on the icon in the panel and choose “Alternatives”, or just add a new one.

Kicker in Plasma 5.4, when you selected; (right click kicker) “Application Menu Settings” dialogue box - had that large icon button in front of you, as in the first screenshot. You could just click it and it brought up the “Select Icon - KDE Menu Editor” selector you see in the (right click) ‘Edit Applications’ dialogue currently. It was convenient to scroll through a visual list rather than going hunting them down.

If I remember right it happened around 5.8 release time. So it would have been Kicker devs who took the button option out to what you get now, second screenshot.

No, you are wrong.
And here’s a screenshot from a 42.1 VM as proof:

http://wstaw.org/m/2016/12/08/OpenSUSE_Leap_42.1-2016-12-08-19-20-47.png

Again, kickoff (the application launcher that was already part of KDE4 and even openSUSE’s KDE3) did have that large icon button (that opens the icon selection dialog) from the screenshot in the first post, and it still has it in Plasma 5.8 and Leap 42.2.

http://i.imgur.com/KAXorsi.jpg

The button above is no longer there - it was, as you can see by the OP screenshot. It was useful because it brought the icon selector dialogue straight up and you could select an icon directly. Very useful. It is no longer there. I thought that change happened around 5.8, but whatever, it’s no longer there and I agree with the OP, it should be.

I can only repeat: it is still there in kickoff. And the OP’s first screenshot does seem to show kickoff’s conguration dialog, kicker’s has more options and looks like the OP’s second screenshot.
kicker does have a normal file select button (which opens a file select dialog), and already had in 42.1 as you can see in my screenshot.
(btw, note that the text label says “Use own image”, not “icon”…)

kickoff is used by default upstream, openSUSE decided to use the new (in Plasma5) kicker by default, but that was done before 42.1, with Plasma 5.0 already.

It’s easy to switch to kickoff though if you prefer that, as I already wrote (right-click on the icon in the panel and choose “Alternatives”). And then the settings dialog will have that icon button.

I thought that change happened around 5.8, but whatever, it’s no longer there and I agree with the OP, it should be.

Well, then you should file a bug report at http://bugs.kde.org/ or open a thread in KDE’s forums at http://forum.kde.org/ (in “Visual Design Group” I suppose) as already has been suggested.

too loose, you are right, I was referring to KDE developers. Definitely not to the openSUSE developers (and QT)! Seems to me our developers have been working hard trying to solve a lot of the problems the upstream developers seem to ignore, IMHO.

… after all, he did say:

might be worth letting your feelings known on the KDE forum.

Well, I’d like to get something straight here:
The upstream developers do try hard to fix problems as well.
But they are just not able to fix everything at once themselves either, and sometimes don’t really see or understand the users’ problems at hand.

The thing in open source, and Linux in particular, is that distributions do depend on the software upstreams deliver (after all, a distribution is mainly just a collection of available software, some users seem to see this wrong), and upstreams do depend on distributions to actually deliver their software to end users (most users are not willing to hunt down all the source code and compile them theirselves, that’s the reason why distributions like openSUSE exist in the first place).

There is a (great) collaboration in place though, distribution developers (openSUSE’s at least) do try to send their fixes upstream and work on upstream’s bugs too.

But normally we (openSUSE or other distributions) do not do behavioral changes any more as such patches are normally quite difficult to maintain over time.
And also we don’t really question or change upstream’s design decisions for similar reasons, unless they are easily changable in the branding (e.g. certain defaults or themes).

Of course, in open source everybody who wants to can join in the development (by code, but also by other things like writing documentation, designing new themes, proposing changes, and so on), either in openSUSE (which is mainly about the packaging of upstream software though), or KDE (which are very open to contributions too) and other upstreams.

Yep, this is what I did after installing plasma when Leap 42.2 came-out.
See this link of my plasma
https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/521099-openSUSE-42-2-Release-Screenshots?p=2801215#post2801215
It is using a different icon.