Certain Applications not working

I have delved deep into all the editorials relating to the software that didn’t work. Only one is now working and that is because of updates. I have OS 11.3 64 bit. Dual boot with Win7
The applications that don’t work are Skype and games such as Dangerdeep and Urban terror. I downloaded these to see if they would work. As soon as they are solved I can delete them. Oh and a Billiard game which doesn’t work either and that I want to keep. I have checked that the Nvidia card is okay and it says it is. Not sure which direction I need to go to resolve these. I have not long loaded OpenSuse. I did reload as I know I cocked up through lack of knowledge. So far this forum has been wonderfully helpful and I thank you for your support the last few weeks

Tony, we want to help, but we don’t really care about programs you plan on removing after you get them to work as that is silly. Pick a problem for a program you plan on using after you get it to work and tell us what it is. Tell us about your video card. Did you go through the Restricted Media Format guides here in the forum?

Thank You,

Did you search and find other recent threads solving problems with skype, particularly replies by user “oldcpu”. IIRC, you will need to get it from an openSUSE Build Service repo (via 1-click) and not from skype’s website.

Why not post about the Billiard game in the Games subforum, since you will keep that one? :slight_smile:

I didn’t get skype to work. I have downloaded from the correct sites, but I have given up on it. From what I have read others have as well. I did try wine, but my webcam doesn’t work on Wine. So that rendered that useless. But the games I have done my best to go through the searches and I can’t get that sorted. There are a few games I want working. And I do care jdmcdaniel3 that I want my computer to be able to work on all factors, but Linux doesn’t always deliver. My graphics cards is NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GT. I have 4GB memory, 300GB of hard drive. Not sure what else would be appropriate. Also not sure where to get the info on the billiard application
billiards | Free cue sports simulator | 0.4-0.pm.1.1 | 9.0 MiB
I think this was the download

Additional rpm output:

warning: /var/cache/zypp/packages/http:__packman.iu-bremen.de_suse_11.3/noarch/billiards-0.4-0.pm.1.1.noarch.rpm: Header V3 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 9a795806: NOKEY

2011-01-25 09:57:27 billiards-0.4-0.pm.1.1.noarch.rpm installed ok

So, with an nVIDIA 9400, you should be able to deliver 3D graphics by loading the nVIDIA proprietary video driver. Loading this driver is but one piece of the puzzle. I normally suggest you read the following document on how to configure your graphic card from the default.

SDB:Configuring graphics cards - openSUSE

So, read up on it. Next, I suggest you go to:

Welcome to NVIDIA - World Leader in Visual Computing Technologies

and download the most recent video driver (32 or 64 bit) for you system. Most likely it will be version 260.19.36 I believe. To use this driver, you must modify your grub menu.lst file so that the kernel load option **nomodeset **is present. Here is an example of this line in my grub menu.lst file (/boot/grub/menu.lst):

kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.34.7-0.7-desktop root=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD6000HLHX-01JJPV0_WD-WXA1C20K0415-part2 resume=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD6000HLHX-01JJPV0_WD-WXA1C20K0415-part1 splash=silent quiet **nomodeset** showopts vga=0x346

I have highlighted the command nomodeset, but it does not appear in bold in the actual file. To edit the menu.lst file in KDE, use the menu run Command:

kdesu kwrite /boot/grub/menu.lst

Now the NVIDIA site has instructions on how to load the driver the hard way, as it is called. But, I happen to have a script file that can do this for you located here:

LNVHW - Load NVIDIA (driver the) Hard Way from runlevel 3

Message #12 has the most recent version of the lnvhw bash script file you can download, mark executable and use to install the nVidia driver. Now, each time you replace your kernel, you must reload this driver. Normally, you reboot, select the new kernel. Make sure the nomodeset command is still there and enter the command 3. Just the number 3 and press enter on the options line and your kernel will load and when prompted, enter the user name of root and then the root password and finally lnvhw to run my script and following the prompts. Reboot when done. The Xsession will not load and you will be using the terminal mode when using runlevel 3.

If you want to install the nVIDIA driver and you have not just replaced your kernel. Open up a terminal session and enter the following commands:

su -
password:
init 3
root
password:
lnvhw

When the word password appears, you enter the root user password, not the word password, that will be displayed for you. Now, you do not change your kernel every day or update your video driver everyday, but if you want to update the driver or you did just update your kernel, you need to reload the video driver.

Now this was a lot of stuff. If you have not installed the nVIDIA driver, I encourage you to read through this material and consider the upgrade. This driver is way better than the default one and will permit better operation of your games.

Thank You,

Skype is actually easy to get working in openSUSE Linux. But if one gets off on the wrong foot on it (going down the wrong path) then what should be easy (and is easy for some of us), can be hard.

My 84+ year old mother uses Skype in Linux. I talk to her (with a video conference) twice a week or more using Skype. She lives in Canada. I live in Europe.

Trying to get one’s webcam working in wine is not IMHO a good approach. It is far better to use a native Linux app with a webcam, and there are many. My 84+ year old mother uses a webcam with Linux, so its not Rocket Science :slight_smile:

Now two hints about getting help … (1) ensure you put your post in the correct sub-forum area. If you ask questions about partitioning in a multimedia area, many who may be experts in partitioning will simply miss your post, (2) your Title to a thread is important. A title that says “Certain applications not working” means that a user who is an expert in application-A will ignore your post most likely. Now that’s ok if you do not want help with application-A, but if you want help with application-A then you should post in your title: "64-bit openSUSE-11.3 KDE4 Application-A need help ! " or something along lines. THAT will catch the attention of the Application-A expert.

There are simply TOO MANY posts on this forum for people to read everyone. Hence you do yourself a disservice with too broad a topic.

I was going to tackle it yesterday, but I ended up screaming with pain on the kitchen floor and then morphined out for the count. So I am having another go this evening. Okay I have been through the mud of editorials that have been shown here and I just got lost. But I did look and see if I had the Nvidia drivers loaded and on my packages they seem to be loaded.

lspci | grep VGA
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G96 [GeForce 9400 GT] (rev a1)

nvidia-gfxG02-kmp-desktop - NVIDIA graphics driver kernel module for GeForce 6xxx and newer GPUs

NVIDIA graphics driver kernel module for GeForce 6xxx and newer GPUs

I am not sure then if I have the driver loaded where to go from here. I am totally lost.
I did try and read the download sections, but to be honest they tell you what to do, but from a certain point and hoping that you have the knowledge to have got to thta point in the first place. For instance it tells me to go to

Copy and past the following text into the file lnvhw (as in /usr/local/bin/lnvhw). You MUST be a root user to complete this task.

And then work in Root. Well I have no idea how to do this in the terminal. Okay I know how to log into Root in a terminal but to get to a file in there I am lost.

So; at the end of the day I do have the driver and things don’t work.

You could look in the My Computer icon on the desktop and in the bottom right see what it says there. Here is an example of what mine says.

   Vendor:  nVidia Corporation
    Model:  GeForce GTX460
2D driver:  nvidia
3D driver:  NVIDIA 260.19.36
nvidia-gfxG02-kmp-desktop - NVIDIA graphics driver kernel module for GeForce 6xxx and newer GPUs

This line above I thinks says you have installed the nVIDIA driver using the repository method perhaps.

Thank You,

It does say that the Nvidia is okay
Display Info
Vendor: nVidia Corporation
Model: GeForce 9400 GT
2D driver: nvidia
3D driver: NVIDIA 260.19.29
I did download it by the repository method. But I had thought about doing it anotherway reference all the links above.
Thanks

TonyBennett It does say that the Nvidia is okay
Display Info
Vendor: nVidia Corporation
Model: GeForce 9400 GT
2D driver: nvidia
3D driver: NVIDIA 260.19.29
I did download it by the repository method. But I had thought about doing it anotherway reference all the links above.
Thanks
So, then what is the next issue you want to attack then since we have established you have loaded the proprietary nVIDIA video driver? And I am sorry if it seemed to take a while to get to this point.

Thank You,

Well the nVidia was just the point of reference to getting the applications working. It still leaves us with these not working. So it seems the graphics card is not working with the OpenSuse, or is it someother beasty that needs sorting out. And, why can’t I just load up and work with a Linux. There are always issues. I want to give two fingers to Windows, but I can’t. I need to rely on my computer to do what I want it too

Well the nVidia was just the point of reference to getting the applications working. It still leaves us with these not working. So it seems the graphics card is not working with the OpenSuse, or is it someother beasty that needs sorting out. And, why can’t I just load up and work with a Linux. There are always issues. I want to give two fingers to Windows, but I can’t. I need to rely on my computer to do what I want it too
Well in general, the issue with Linux is hardware support. You can’t sell computer hardware without Windows support. Manufactures can ignore Linux support if they so chose to. Big companies like Intel, AMD, nVIDIA, ATI provide some support as lots Servers use Linux. However, many big name companies that put hardware together are only slightly concerned that some part of their computer has no Linux support. So, starting with the Kernel, support is built in as best as it can be, with or without direct support from the manufacturer. In many instances, support on a device depended on one person, who worked on the kernel and had a piece of hardware, not supported, that they wrote support in themselves and on their own.

If you looked at the hundreds of kernel hardware drivers that were created by reverse engineering you would be surprised. What does that mean to a person who wants to use Linux? Well, we pick our hardware carefully and not just based on price or what is on the shelf. I have more than once went out and purchased an add-n network card when the built-in one did not work with Linux. I have been content to use Windows to support say a TV tuner card which could not be made to work with Linux. Why use Linux one might ask? Well, these days the number one reason is speed. It is way faster on the same hardware. Second is cost as it just costs less even if I have had to purchase a couple of extra network cards. Third is Freedom to pick and chose the applications I want to use, not based on price, but based on performance. Lastly I chose to put my support behind Linux because it is the right thing to do.

So, I am not too proud to use Windows when nothing else will do. If it were possible to never buy Windows again, that is how I would do it. I am not mad that Windows was written or released. I wish them luck as they go up against Linux. I am not happy you have had issues with openSUSE, but it does not change the over all scheme of things too much.

Thank You,

Thank You,

It was over a year ago I tried Linux on my 64 bit system and it drove me nuts then. I had to go and get Windows. I was hoping it was over a year and I could get the Linux going. I have tried Fedora before this and there was no sound. I tried Mint and no sound. Not sure if there were not other issues? I had a 32bit of course before this and I had it working great. But I forget how things work, morphine mucks up the brain cells and I am not that confident with Linux. I was getting use to it then the comp went to the great recycling world. I am always hopeful and I have said to people who try not to have their hopes to high as it may not work on their machine. I will still have OS as something to use for security as it just doesn’t touch windows. I think I will stop tearing my hair out trying to get it working as I have always done with Linux and mainly use Windows. I have enough pain in my life without the pain of trying to get it to work. Thanks for all your help, I might just try a few more Linux, but if it don’t work its out of the window. You never know

On 01/31/2011 09:06 AM, TonyBennett wrote:
>
> mainly use Windows. I have enough pain in my
> life without the pain of trying to get it to work. Thanks for all your
> help, I might just try a few more Linux, but if it don’t work its out
> of the window.
>

as a counter view: last week i was using openSUSE 10.3 [only] for my
daily work and decided to give 11.3 a try…i put in a brand new (and
larger/faster) hard drive and installed 11.3 allowing the install
routine to make all decisions (except keyboard layout and etc)…

once i turned up the “PCM” volume and easily followed the written
instructions for each i had full up working multimedia, flash and java
in browser and Skype…

all of that was really easy–of course, my hardware is KNOWN to work
with non-Micro$oft software…

there are a few things i still need to do (my webcam is not working
yet, and though the nv driver works great, it won’t gimme full screen
playback [while the nvidia driver did in 10.3, so i’ll move to the new
driver when i get a chance…]

success in moving from expensive/lockin software to FOSS is much
easier with some hardware than with others…in either case, there
must be some dedication to learning, and a lot of patience…

and, a willingness to understand that time is money–think of the
money you will save and use that amount (in time) as an investment in
your nose-ringless future…

brought to you by a single system machine.


DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD [posted via NNTP w/openSUSE 11.3, KDE4.5.5
“release 1”, Thunderbird3.0.11]
“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11

DenverD, I appreciate the context in which your post comes.

Still, on a different (albeit related topic), and I know I’m preaching to the choir, but please do start your own separate help threads on the webcam and the graphics, as I am sure many of us will jump at the chance to dive in and give one of our fellow contributors a hand.

Best of luck and stay well.

i guess i should have said so, because it wasn’t my intention for my
post to solicit help (anyway, i’m sure none of mine are 64 bit
related, since i installed 32 on a 64 capable system)…

i plan to work though each ‘fix’ alone, if i can…

(i’ve already found a moment to move from the open to the nvidia
driver–which was a no problem, drop-dead-easy, one click operation!)


DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD
[NNTP posted w/openSUSE 11.3, KDE4.5.5, Thunderbird3.0.11, nVidia
173.14.28 3D, Athlon 64 3000+]
“It is far easier to read, understand and follow the instructions than
to undo the problems caused by not.” DD 23 Jan 11