Catalyst Legacy 13.1

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#21

The radeon open source driver should work with your AMD radeon HD4200 graphic device with openSUSE-12.3. According to ‘man radeon’


**SUPPORTED HARDWARE**
       **The radeon driver supports** PCI, AGP, and PCIe video cards based on the following ATI/AMD chips (note: list is non-exhaustive):
.....
       RV620/RV635 Radeon HD 3410/3430/3450/3470/3650/3670
.....
       RS780/RS880 **Radeon HD** 3100/3200/3300/4100/**4200**/4250/4290

… whether there are bugs currently in that support, I can not say. I do know my Dell Studio laptop with an HD3450 AMD hardware works well with openSUSE-12.3 (although I did have to disable plymouth to get a reliable boot).

However the proprietary amd driver will not work with your graphic hardware. AMD have made it very clear they no longer support that card for newer GNU/Linux versions (including openSUSE-12.3). I quote from here: AMD Catalyst™ Driver for AMD Radeon™ [b]HD 4000, HD 3000 and HD 2000 Series

Automated installer and Display Drivers for Xorg 6.9 to Xserver 1.12 and Kernel version up to 3.4

openSUSE-12.3 has a v1.13 of Xserver (not 1.12) and it has a 3.7.x kernel (and not 3.4 kernel)

#22

Hi Friends…
Firstly thank you a lot for the reply.
The Ati radeon HD 4200 is not fully 3D supported on Opensuse, and the performance is not to good.
Second: What I wanted to mean is that I wonder how to Install any valid AMD CATALYST driver on any of the OpenSuse distro. This because it doesn´t feels the graphics runs fluidly. So I request a Little help. Thank U.

#23

Not possible on 12.3, but you could on 12.2. See above.

#24

On Fri 31 May 2013 07:56:02 PM CDT, serginni wrote:
The Ati radeon HD 4200 is not fully 3D supported on Opensuse, and the
performance is not to good.

Hi
Enable glamor and tear free, seems to be rocking a long quite nice for
me, no gaming though.

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Cheers Malcolm °¿° (Linux Counter #276890)
openSUSE 12.3 (x86_64) Kernel 3.7.10-1.11-desktop
up 2 days 6:44, 3 users, load average: 0.40, 0.21, 0.11
CPU AMD Athlon™ II P360@2.30GHz | GPU Mobility Radeon HD 4200

#25

I’m not sure what you mean by that … and while the OSS r600g gallium3d driver doesn’t comply with all the latest whiz-bangery version of GL, it is pretty good and stable.

and the performance is not to good.
you probably get about 60-70% of what the prop. fglrx driver for most OpenGL apps. For many, that is quite sufficient. For gaming? Meh, I’d say that you’d be better off served actually using a gaming card rather then a lowly 4200 for that purpose (PS - I too have a 4200, so I’m allowed to take digs at it :wink: )

Glamor is not going to bring you anything, if not being a little slower, perfomance wise over what EXA already offers for 2D acceleration. In addition, given that its fairly new and not heavily developed, its a bit of step back in certain areas for the desktop – one of which will hopefully be resolved through this year’s GSoC: Add Xv support to Glamor | BigChuan on Xanga

#26

You can’t use it on 12.3 version, but you can on 12.2 , here’s how :
Visit this link : https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:AMD_fglrx_legacy

then click on 1-click install , once installed reboot your machine.

#27

@ serginni, Further to wolfi323’s post, in case you decided you wish to try openSUSE-12.2 because you wish to use the legacy catalyst driver, then you can find 12.2 here: software.opensuse.org: Download openSUSE 12.2

#28

Too bad that support for 12.2 ends in 7 months from now.
Is there a way to downgrade Xorg server in 12.3 from 1.13 to 1.12 ?

#29

As I stated previously (under similar context), there is no evidence for such a conclusion. There is a world of difference between “never ever will” and “currently aren’t”.

In ~6 weeks you may not need to take such a drastic step, though only time will tell in that regard …

…legacy Catalyst v12.6, Jul/12 … legacy Catalyst v13.1, Jan/13 … legacy Catalyst v???, ??? … ]

#30

"never ever will’ are your words, which I quoted above.

What I stated is that “AMD have made it very clear they no longer support that card”, and I still stand by a view that all the evidence supports that. I note there is a significant difference in emphasis in my words of “no longer” and your words of “never ever will” .

I note that Xorg newer than 6.9, Xserver newer than 1.12, and Kernel versions much newer than 3.4 have been out in the Linux world for some time. I’ve seen no evidence of AMD legacy support for the newer X nor kernel for the hardware in question. I have HD3450 AMD hardware, and I would be happy to be proven wrong, but I have read nothing from AMD to suggest otherwise. Perhaps you could quote something to the contrary from AMD noting legacy driver support for Xorg newer than 6.9, Xserver newer than 1.12, and Kernel versions much newer than 3.4 is just around the corner ?

And this reduction to little to no support by AMD for the older HD graphic card series is not new news … its over a year old that this slow down to where we are today was coming. For example this Phoronox article from April 2012 : [Phoronix] AMD To Drop Radeon HD 2000/3000/4000 Catalyst Support](http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_catalyst_legacy2&num=1) gave us a hint as to what was coming.

#31

Perhaps what I have noted in my post and quote is not entirely accurate and far too pessimistic .

I note for the DX9 ATI Radeon™ graphics accelerators products, AMD have this to say: ATI Catalyst™ Proprietary Display Driver

… but I note the above is NOT the AMD hardware being discussed in this thread.

when looking at the AMD hardware noted in this thread, in contrast to that, for the AMD Catalyst™ Driver for AMD Radeon™ HD 4000, HD 3000 and HD 2000 Series AMD have this to say AMD Catalyst™ Driver for AMD Radeon™ HD 4000, HD 3000 and HD 2000 Series

with no words such as ‘will not include support’ …

ie the wording for the AMD Radeon™ HD 4000, AMD Radeon HD 3000, and AMD Radeon HD 2000 Series drivers is far less harsh.

I concede from that difference in wording, that maybe one could hold up some hope of a future update. My suspicion is AMD themselves do not yet know if they wish to conduct another AMD Radeon™ HD 4000, AMD Radeon HD 3000, and AMD Radeon HD 2000 Series driver update.

#32

[QUOTE=oldcpu;2561947I] note that Xorg newer than 6.9, Xserver newer than 1.12, and Kernel versions much newer than 3.4 have been out in the Linux world for some time. I’ve seen no evidence of AMD legacy support for the newer X nor kernel for the hardware in question. I have HD3450 AMD hardware, and I would be happy to be proven wrong, but I have read nothing from AMD to suggest otherwise. Perhaps you could quote something to the contrary from AMD noting legacy driver support for Xorg newer than 6.9, Xserver newer than 1.12, and Kernel versions much newer than 3.4 is just around the corner ?
[/QUOTE]

Driver is working fine with newer kernels, Xorg switch from 1.12 to 1.13 was and still is the only problem.