Case-sensitive

chief_sealth · May 19, 2010, 6:03pm

I inadvertently learned that passwords are not case-sensitive here. I’ve never seen this before. Is this really a good idea?

KohlInGA · May 19, 2010, 6:50pm

I’m in no way a *nix-ologist but no, that would :bad: not be a good idea.
That being said, all my passwords are all case-sensitive and I can’t :sarcastic: imagine why yours wouldn’t be as well…

Thanks :good: for posting your observation, I’ll be anxiously watching to see what the more experienced think.

DenverD · May 19, 2010, 7:31pm

chief sealth wrote:
> I inadvertently learned that passwords are not case-sensitive here. I’ve
> never seen this before. Is this really a good idea?

how in the world did you pick this forum to post to? it is not a help
forum and you have to scroll down for 15 years (or seconds) past all
the help forums to get to this one which says in an internationally
understood lingo: Forums Comments/Suggestions - Comments and/or
suggestions about the openSUSE forums

so, first: what is your suggestion or comment about these forums?

second: passwords are absolutely case sensitive in a default
installed openSUSE…so, one three things has happened:

either your system has been damaged by a faulty install: did you do
this http://tinyurl.com/yajm2aq before install attempt? or
your system has been recently damaged by an update or something you
did as root (but, i can NOT imagine what file (or how many different
files) has been changed…
have you checked around for a root kit hidden in the cracks
somewhere???

hcvv · May 19, 2010, 7:43pm

Hm, my thought at reading this on this place was: is the Forums password case insensitive (he said: here)?

hendersj · May 19, 2010, 7:50pm

On Wed, 19 May 2010 17:31:21 +0000, DenverD wrote:

> how in the world did you pick this forum to post to?

Because it seems he’s asking about the forums password, not the passwords
in openSUSE.

Jim

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Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator

hendersj · May 19, 2010, 7:51pm

On Wed, 19 May 2010 16:06:01 +0000, chief sealth wrote:

> I inadvertently learned that passwords are not case-sensitive here. I’ve
> never seen this before. Is this really a good idea?

Most of the forums I have looked at use case-insensitive passwords
because adding case-sensitivity to the picture tends to increase support
calls.

Since the password ties back to the www.novell.com user store, here we
just use what the settings are there.

Jim

–
Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator

chief_sealth · May 19, 2010, 9:00pm

I’ve never heard of this before. Seems like a bad idea, just in principle if nothing else.

hendersj · May 19, 2010, 9:23pm

On Wed, 19 May 2010 19:06:02 +0000, chief sealth wrote:

> hendersj;2166882 Wrote:
>> Most of the forums I have looked at use case-insensitive passwords
>> because adding case-sensitivity to the picture tends to increase
>> support
>> calls.
>
> I’ve never heard of this before. Seems like a bad idea, just in
> principle if nothing else.

I’ve been doing identity-related security stuff for years - case-
sensitivity is a relatively recent development in password security (in
general). It doesn’t surprise me that many forums opt not to use it
because it’s a leading cause of password-related issues.

Jim

–
Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator

DenverD · May 19, 2010, 11:38pm

Jim Henderson wrote:
> Because it seems he’s asking about the forums password, not the passwords
> in openSUSE.

AH! that password!

heh, since i use (mostly) nntp i had forgotten about it…

sorry ‘chief’…

chief_sealth · May 20, 2010, 1:00am

That’s all right, I’ll save your advice. Could turn out to be useful.