can't update one program?

yester64 · January 31, 2012, 12:59am

Hi, Apper can’t find something for an openSUSE update. Its hanging there
for awhile.

Message from Apper is this

patch:openSUSE-2012-36-1.noarch conflicts with
libpixman-1-0-32bit.x86_64 < 0.24.0-2.3.1 provided by
libpixman-1-0-32bit-0.22.2-666.1.x86_64

Zypper brings me that message.


linux-7tnd:~ # zypper up
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...

The following package updates will NOT be installed:
ffmpeg lensfun-data libavcodec53 libavdevice53 libavfilter2
libavformat53
libavutil51 libepub0 libggz2 libiodbc3 liblensfun0 liblqr-1-0
libpixman-1-0
libpixman-1-0-32bit libqoauth1 libswscale2 smplayer vlc-noX xine-ui

Nothing to do.

Is there a way to update it or to kill it?

I run 12.1 (x64) KDE 4.8

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robin_listas · January 31, 2012, 1:38am

On 2012-01-31 00:59, JoergJaeger wrote:
> Is there a way to update it or to kill it?

Uninstall apper.

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yester64 · January 31, 2012, 1:56am

On 30.01.2012 16:38, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2012-01-31 00:59, JoergJaeger wrote:
>> Is there a way to update it or to kill it?
>
> Uninstall apper.
>

Ok will do. But don’t they fix apper sometime?
Also, and that confuses me always, do i need these updates that are
stored (from zypper)?

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robin_listas · January 31, 2012, 2:13am

On 2012-01-31 01:56, JoergJaeger wrote:

> Ok will do. But don’t they fix apper sometime?

Possibly, you can report the bug in bugzilla, or post somewhere where they
are interested in apper, like the mail list.

Here you know that the general advice is to not use it at all.

> Also, and that confuses me always, do i need these updates that are stored
> (from zypper)?

The problem is, that as I don’t use apper I can not guess what it is trying
to do or complaining about. I would try first the yast update manager, and
if this one has nothing to update, then I would see the plain (yast)
package manager, see what it says in the version tab for libpixman.

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yester64 · January 31, 2012, 2:19am

On 30.01.2012 17:13, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2012-01-31 01:56, JoergJaeger wrote:
>
>> Ok will do. But don’t they fix apper sometime?
>
> Possibly, you can report the bug in bugzilla, or post somewhere where they
> are interested in apper, like the mail list.
>
> Here you know that the general advice is to not use it at all.
>
>> Also, and that confuses me always, do i need these updates that are stored
>> (from zypper)?
>
> The problem is, that as I don’t use apper I can not guess what it is trying
> to do or complaining about. I would try first the yast update manager, and
> if this one has nothing to update, then I would see the plain (yast)
> package manager, see what it says in the version tab for libpixman.
>

Oh i think you misunderstood me. No this is not about the apper. This if
i see zypper in terminal and it shows that there are some updates but
they are not installed.
I always wondered why it is there. Are those files that aren’t important
to be updated or from a different repository?

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robin_listas · January 31, 2012, 2:53am

On 2012-01-31 02:19, JoergJaeger wrote:
> Oh i think you misunderstood me. No this is not about the apper. This if i
> see zypper in terminal and it shows that there are some updates but they
> are not installed.
> I always wondered why it is there. Are those files that aren’t important to
> be updated or from a different repository?

Many possible reasons. That the possible updates have lower priority, or
that they need a vendor change.

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DenverD · January 31, 2012, 9:39am

On 01/31/2012 02:19 AM, JoergJaeger wrote:
> This if i see zypper in terminal and it shows that there are some
> updates but they are not installed.
> I always wondered why it is there.

if you had used apper and then looked at YaST Online Update or “zypper
patch” and seen that apper was not installing all patches which YaST
wanted to–then you would know why we say to uninstall apper…

or, if you installed all security updates with YaST Online Update or
“zypper patch” and then saw things remaining to be installed by apper
you would see another reason we say to unistall apper…

or, if you installed all security updates with YaST Online Update and
then ran “zypper up” and saw remaining ‘updates’ that would be because
YaST Online Update and “zypper up” are NOT the same thing…

YaST Online Update and “zypper patch” are the same thing! both of
those do security patches and major bug fixes which flow via the update
repo only (no other repo)

“zypper up” has nothing to do with the security patches and major bug
fixes in the update repo, instead it is like opening YaST Software
Manager and looking for all the the applications with newer dates (or
later version numbers) than installed, which are available in all
enabled repos that would not require vendor change to install…

that is, “zypper up” will offer all installable updates which have no
dependency problems, or which do not change package vendor…and that
list is inherently different than the list available from YaST Online
Update (and who knows [not me] what the list in apper offers)

and, if looking in YaST Software Management for all packages with newer
dates/version, including those which would require a vendor change, is
like using the command “zypper update --all” (or “zypper up -a”)

note: it is possible that i don’t know what i’m talking about…a
through inspection of man zypper is in order for you [not for me because
i stick to YaST, which is both less confusing and (if one stays away
from “change vendor” and bleeding edge repos) most often produces a
stable environment and almost never mixes software in ways which
causes a lot (most?) of the problems seen which are described as
“suddenly” or “after today’s update my blah blah is broken”)]…

ymmv

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