I can’t login as a user, I can login as root. This SUSE 11.1 and I get
the error message “Call to lnuser temp failed {Temporary Directories
full} Check your installation”. I checked the /tmp directory and have
0GB free, so I moved all the files to Trash, rebooted. The problem is
still there. What do I need to do?
Thanks,
Larry
Larry G. Griffin wrote:
> I can’t login as a user, I can login as root.
never never never log into a Linux GUI (like KDE, GNOME, Xfce, etc etc
etc) as root…EVER!
instead, learn how to do it right here:
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Login_as_root
if you can’t log in as a regular user and THEN become root as
instructed in that cite, you are NOT going to fix it by logging into
the GUI as root…
you are most likely to just make it worse.
> This SUSE 11.1 and I get
> the error message “Call to lnuser temp failed {Temporary Directories
> full} Check your installation”. I checked the /tmp directory and have
> 0GB free, so I moved all the files to Trash, rebooted. The problem is
> still there. What do I need to do?
how large is your hard drive…how much space did you allocate to the
Linux installation?
never never never never remove any files from /tmp while the system is
running…ever ever ever…those files are there for a reason (take’em
out and you are screwed)
since you have wandered around as root moving and deleting i guess you
have probably damaged the system beyond repair…but, that is just a
GUESS…
i GUESS you need more space allocated to Linux…but, that is just a
guess…
is this a dual boot machine? did you defrag and shrink the other OS to
make room for the new? did you read and follow (carefully) all the
advice in the ENTIRE THREAD at http://tinyurl.com/6jwtg9?
if not, i’d guess you need to start over…
–
MultiplePersonality
MultiplePersonality wrote:
> Larry G. Griffin wrote:
>> I can’t login as a user, I can login as root.
>
> never never never log into a Linux GUI (like KDE, GNOME, Xfce, etc etc
> etc) as root…EVER!
>
I have been using for about 2 weeks, have no idea where the switch is
that turns on/off the ability of the root to log into the GUI.
> instead, learn how to do it right here:
> http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Login_as_root
>
Perhaps someone would like summarize the deluge of information into
something more than how to download OpenSUSE.
> if you can’t log in as a regular user and THEN become root as
> instructed in that cite, you are NOT going to fix it by logging into
> the GUI as root…
>
> you are most likely to just make it worse.
>
>
>> This SUSE 11.1 and I get
>> the error message “Call to lnuser temp failed {Temporary Directories
>> full} Check your installation”. I checked the /tmp directory and have
>> 0GB free, so I moved all the files to Trash, rebooted. The problem is
>> still there. What do I need to do?
>
> how large is your hard drive…how much space did you allocate to the
> Linux installation?
>
It is a 20GB drive. I followed what was recommended at installation. I
have 2 GB swap, 7.09 GB for /, and 9 GB /home. There is also another 20
GB to be mounted and a 465 GB mounted as /Archives.
> never never never never remove any files from /tmp while the system is
> running…ever ever ever…those files are there for a reason (take’em
> out and you are screwed)
>
> since you have wandered around as root moving and deleting i guess you
> have probably damaged the system beyond repair…but, that is just a
> GUESS…
>
The system still boots, but that is not say that something hasn’t been
damaged. When you move files to Trash they can not be recovered?
I did a search in Help for trash and found nothing.
> i GUESS you need more space allocated to Linux…but, that is just a
> guess…
>
Can I move files to another drive or re allocate with out screwing
things up?
> is this a dual boot machine? did you defrag and shrink the other OS to
> make room for the new? did you read and follow (carefully) all the
> advice in the ENTIRE THREAD at http://tinyurl.com/6jwtg9?
>
No it is not a dual boot,they are messy.
> if not, i’d guess you need to start over…
Done that enough in using PC for the last 30 years.
>
Larry G. Griffin wrote:
> MultiplePersonality wrote:
>> Larry G. Griffin wrote:
>>> I can’t login as a user, I can login as root.
>>
>> never never never log into a Linux GUI (like KDE, GNOME, Xfce, etc etc
>> etc) as root…EVER!
>>
>
> I have been using for about 2 weeks, have no idea where the switch is
> that turns on/off the ability of the root to log into the GUI.
the “switch” to prevent you from logging in as root is in your
HEAD…that is, YOU are free to log into a GUI as root if you
wish…but, don’t do it…
yes, if Redmond built your car it would NOT go faster than the speed
limit no matter how hard you pushed on the accelerator…
YOU have the FREEDOM to speed here…just know what you are
doing…READ the documentation…
>> instead, learn how to do it right here:
>> http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Login_as_root
>>
> Perhaps someone would like summarize the deluge of information into
> something more than how to download OpenSUSE.
you can like go to the wiki and find all kinds of summaries…each one
SPECIFIC to a particular task or action…it is called, like
“documentation” and there is a link (on the left side) leading to it…
you even have documentation on your own hard drive, just go here
file:///usr/share/doc/manual/opensuse-manual_en/manual/index.html
and there is always that big documentation in the sky via google…
and the grandpappy of all summaries (LOTS of them, each specific) at
http://rute.2038bug.com/ where you will find GENERIC Linux
documentation in LINUX: Rute User’s Tutorial and Exposition
> <snip>
>> how large is your hard drive…how much space did you allocate to the
>> Linux installation?
>>
> It is a 20GB drive. I followed what was recommended at installation. I
> have 2 GB swap, 7.09 GB for /, and 9 GB /home. There is also another 20
> GB to be mounted and a 465 GB mounted as /Archives.
that should be big enough…if, as i guess, you have not yet filled
it up, somehow…
><snip>
> The system still boots, but that is not say that something hasn’t been
> damaged. When you move files to Trash they can not be recovered?
depends on how you did it…
when you rebooted the system automatically created zillions of little
TEMPORARY files…leave them alone…do not move them from or to /tmp
here is a rule summary for you: creating, moving, modifying or
deleting files as root is the job of a person who KNOWS what they are
doing, and the potential consequences of their action…
here is the rule: if you don’t know what a file does, it is best to
leave it alone–THAT is the rule i follow myself.
> I did a search in Help for trash and found nothing.
where and how you search makes a big difference…
yes, an hard drive search of help for most anything is pretty pathetic…
but i’ve mentioned three other sources above…
>> i GUESS you need more space allocated to Linux…but, that is just a
>> guess…
>>
> Can I move files to another drive or re allocate with out screwing
> things up?
SEE, i said i GUESS you need more room…and, i GUESSED wrong…
i know that becuase i just followed my own advice (search!) and
entered “Call to lnuser temp failed {Temporary Directories full} Check
your installation” (with the quotes) into a google search block…and
found that it should have been “lnusertemp” rather than “lnuser temp”
and searching on the actual error you saw brings some hits that begin
with “SOLVED: After TR4 update 2nite: Call to lnusertemp failed”…
i have not read them because i don’t have your problem–if i did, i
would read every one of them…and if i understood what was going on
i’d try to fix my machine…if i didn’t understand i’d to some reading
and ask some questions…
> No it is not a dual boot,they are messy.
i agree…
>> if not, i’d guess you need to start over…
maybe you don’t have to…maybe all you have to do is read how the
other folks solved the (apparently) same problem…and adapt (because
maybe they are on Debian running Xfce desktop) their solution to your
situation…
> Done that enough in using PC for the last 30 years.
well, perhaps i should stop talking and start listening…cause in
1979 i had heard of a PC, but don’t think i saw one until YEARS
later…saw some Big Iron, and Minis, but no PCs…
and, i would have thought your CP/M, *nix and DOS experience would do
you pretty good here…no?
–
MultiplePersonality
MultiplePersonality wrote:
> Larry G. Griffin wrote:
>> MultiplePersonality wrote:
>>> Larry G. Griffin wrote:
>>>> I can’t login as a user, I can login as root.
>>> never never never log into a Linux GUI (like KDE, GNOME, Xfce, etc etc
>>> etc) as root…EVER!
>>>
>> I have been using for about 2 weeks, have no idea where the switch is
>> that turns on/off the ability of the root to log into the GUI.
>
> the “switch” to prevent you from logging in as root is in your
> HEAD…that is, YOU are free to log into a GUI as root if you
> wish…but, don’t do it…
The switch I was referring to was this found in this statement
“We already talked about login in as root in the GUI. This is switched
off by openSUSE and rightly so. This does not imply that we cannot use
GUI oriented programs to manage our systems even if they require root
privileges.” at “http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Login_as_root”
Evidently that switch is no longer off for Nwebies.
>
> yes, if Redmond built your car it would NOT go faster than the speed
> limit no matter how hard you pushed on the accelerator…
>
> YOU have the FREEDOM to speed here…just know what you are
> doing…READ the documentation…
>
>
>>> instead, learn how to do it right here:
>>> http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Login_as_root
>>>
>> Perhaps someone would like summarize the deluge of information into
>> something more than how to download OpenSUSE.
>
> you can like go to the wiki and find all kinds of summaries…each one
> SPECIFIC to a particular task or action…it is called, like
> “documentation” and there is a link (on the left side) leading to it…
>
> you even have documentation on your own hard drive, just go here
> file:///usr/share/doc/manual/opensuse-manual_en/manual/index.html
>
> and there is always that big documentation in the sky via google…
>
> and the grandpappy of all summaries (LOTS of them, each specific) at
> http://rute.2038bug.com/ where you will find GENERIC Linux
> documentation in LINUX: Rute User’s Tutorial and Exposition
>
A lot better than most.
>> <snip>
>>> how large is your hard drive…how much space did you allocate to the
>>> Linux installation?
>>>
>> It is a 20GB drive. I followed what was recommended at installation. I
>> have 2 GB swap, 7.09 GB for /, and 9 GB /home. There is also another 20
>> GB to be mounted and a 465 GB mounted as /Archives.
>
> that should be big enough…if, as i guess, you have not yet filled
> it up, somehow…
>
>
>> <snip>
>> The system still boots, but that is not say that something hasn’t been
>> damaged. When you move files to Trash they can not be recovered?
>
> depends on how you did it…
>
> when you rebooted the system automatically created zillions of little
> TEMPORARY files…leave them alone…do not move them from or to /tmp
>
> here is a rule summary for you: creating, moving, modifying or
> deleting files as root is the job of a person who KNOWS what they are
> doing, and the potential consequences of their action…
>
> here is the rule: if you don’t know what a file does, it is best to
> leave it alone–THAT is the rule i follow myself.
>
>
>> I did a search in Help for trash and found nothing.
>
> where and how you search makes a big difference…
>
> yes, an hard drive search of help for most anything is pretty pathetic…
>
> but i’ve mentioned three other sources above…
>
>
>>> i GUESS you need more space allocated to Linux…but, that is just a
>>> guess…
>>>
>> Can I move files to another drive or re allocate with out screwing
>> things up?
>
> SEE, i said i GUESS you need more room…and, i GUESSED wrong…
> i know that becuase i just followed my own advice (search!) and
> entered “Call to lnuser temp failed {Temporary Directories full} Check
> your installation” (with the quotes) into a google search block…and
> found that it should have been “lnusertemp” rather than “lnuser temp”
> and searching on the actual error you saw brings some hits that begin
> with “SOLVED: After TR4 update 2nite: Call to lnusertemp failed”…
>
> i have not read them because i don’t have your problem–if i did, i
> would read every one of them…and if i understood what was going on
> i’d try to fix my machine…if i didn’t understand i’d to some reading
> and ask some questions…
>
I’m working my way through it. I need to correct one of the coomands.
I’ve got zero space on /. I deleted 6GB out desktop but that didn’t help.
>
>> No it is not a dual boot,they are messy.
>
> i agree…
>
>
>>> if not, i’d guess you need to start over…
>
> maybe you don’t have to…maybe all you have to do is read how the
> other folks solved the (apparently) same problem…and adapt (because
> maybe they are on Debian running Xfce desktop) their solution to your
> situation…
>
>
>> Done that enough in using PC for the last 30 years.
>
> well, perhaps i should stop talking and start listening…cause in
> 1979 i had heard of a PC, but don’t think i saw one until YEARS
> later…saw some Big Iron, and Minis, but no PCs…
You’ll find them listed under ieee696 or S-100 bus. 
>
> and, i would have thought your CP/M, *nix and DOS experience would do
> you pretty good here…no?
>
CP/M was simpler, but the basics do help, and the commands specific to a
purpose. Unlike Linux which is multiuser, and the commands are a hodge
podge, menagerie, with multiple varations and options per purpose. If I
stay with it for another 30 years I might find a subset that works for me.
Try this:
Log in as root (as advised use cmdline, or be v careful)
chown -R YOURLOGINAME /home/YOURLOGINAME
chgrp -R YOURLOGINAME /home/YOURLOGINAME
chmod -R 755 /home/YOURLOGINAME
chmod 644 $HOME/.dmrc
Reboot and keep fingers X.
Hope this helps,
(To get console login CTRL F1 or F2 at login window)
> The switch I was referring to was this found in this statement
>
> “We already talked about login in as root in the GUI. This is switched
> off by openSUSE and rightly so. This does not imply that we cannot use
> GUI oriented programs to manage our systems even if they require root
> privileges.” at “http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Login_as_root”
>
> Evidently that switch is no longer off for Nwebies.
by default the log in screen would automatically show all users and
the particular user wanting to log in could click on his/her identity,
add password and go…
however, no matter how many users you add to your system you will not
see root listed on that log in screen unless you do something fancy…
so, to log in as root you have to TYPE root in the user block, which
is NOT the way it is on all distributions…that is “switched off by
openSUSE and rightly so”
>> and the grandpappy of all summaries (LOTS of them, each specific) at
>> http://rute.2038bug.com/ where you will find GENERIC Linux
>> documentation in LINUX: Rute User’s Tutorial and Exposition
>>
>
> A lot better than most.
yep…a great piece of work…and, a lot easier to handle than my 1114
page, 1.914 kilo Linux Unleashed, Third Edition, 1998, by Tim Parker…
> I’m working my way through it. I need to correct one of the coomands.
> I’ve got zero space on /. I deleted 6GB out desktop but that didn’t help.
oops! linux HATES a full drive…
first, you said earlier that you accepted the install script’s
recommended scheme…if so then / is on one partition and
/home/[you]/Desktop on a DIFFERENT partition…
so, you could delete your entire /home and free up ZERO space on the
root’s /
ok, lets take a look at:
cat /proc/partitions
cat /etc/fstab
df --print-type
mount
su -c ‘fdisk -l’
please run those in a terminal and post the results back to here…
the last one, that “l” is a lower case L, and it will ask for root’s
password…
> You’ll find them listed under ieee696 or S-100 bus.
i’m not old/experienced enough to even understand that one…
cheers…
> CP/M was simpler, but the basics do help, and the commands specific to a
> purpose. Unlike Linux which is multiuser, and the commands are a hodge
> podge, menagerie, with multiple varations and options per purpose. If I
> stay with it for another 30 years I might find a subset that works for me.
well, we can hope 30 more are available…i might make it, but i
really doubt it as neither parent lasted into their 90s…however, i
am a youngster…i know that 'cause i like cake.
hmmmmm…i just read mktyap’s post changing
permissions/ownership/other of your home…his is FAR beyond my
knowledge/understanding…so, i can’t comment…but, note he has made
two posts since joining in nov 08 (which probably is a recommendation
as is too busy for most of the bubble gum Q$As)…but, will mention:
have you yet found the ‘manual’? that is, (with reference to mktyap’s
post) in a terminal type
man chown
and enjoy the purity…
if i forgot to say earlier: welcome to SUSE Linux and have a lot of fun…
–
MultiplePersonality
mktyap wrote:
> Try this:
> Log in as root (as advised use cmdline, or be v careful)
> chown -R YOURLOGINAME /home/YOURLOGINAME
> chgrp -R YOURLOGINAME /home/YOURLOGINAME
> chmod -R 755 /home/YOURLOGINAME
> chmod 644 $HOME/.dmrc
>
> Reboot and keep fingers X.
> Hope this helps,
> (To get console login CTRL F1 or F2 at login window)
>
>
mktyap, We’re getting an error on the second command, chgrp. It’s
expecting a group and getting a user name.
MultiplePersonality wrote:
> yep…a great piece of work…and, a lot easier to handle than my 1114
> page, 1.914 kilo Linux Unleashed, Third Edition, 1998, by Tim Parker…
>
I want something that goes into what the command is doing, for instance
mounting a drive. You are mounting the drive to a file which then
holds(?) the folders and files for that drive, in effect the FAT.
>
>> I’m working my way through it. I need to correct one of the coomands.
>> I’ve got zero space on /. I deleted 6GB out desktop but that didn’t help.
>
> oops! linux HATES a full drive…
> first, you said earlier that you accepted the install script’s
> recommended scheme…if so then / is on one partition and
> /home/[you]/Desktop on a DIFFERENT partition…
>
> so, you could delete your entire /home and free up ZERO space on the
> root’s /
>
Yep, figured that out.
> ok, lets take a look at:
>
> cat /proc/partitions
> cat /etc/fstab
> df --print-type
> mount
> su -c ‘fdisk -l’
>
> please run those in a terminal and post the results back to here…
> the last one, that “l” is a lower case L, and it will ask for root’s
> password…
>
linux:~ # cat /proc/partitions
major minor #blocks name
8 0 19551168 sda
8 1 2104483 sda1
8 2 7430062 sda2
8 3 10016527 sda3
8 16 19551168 sdb
8 17 19543041 sdb1
8 32 488386584 sdc
8 33 488376000 sdc1
linux:~ # cat /etc/fstab
/dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST320011A_3HT17QJ0-part1 swap swap
defaults 0 0
/dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST320011A_3HT17QJ0-part2 / ext3
acl,user_xattr 1 1
/dev/disk/by-id/ata-ST320011A_3HT17QJ0-part3 /home ext3
acl,user_xattr 1 2
proc /proc proc defaults
0 0
sysfs /sys sysfs noauto
0 0
debugfs /sys/kernel/debug debugfs noauto
0 0
usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs noauto
0 0
/dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD5000AAKS-00D2B0_WD-WMASY6071261-part1
/Archives ext3 acl,user_xattr 1 2
/dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD200EB-00CSF0_WD-WMAAV1113810-part1 /Special
ntfs-3g
users,gid=users,fmask=133,dmask=022,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0
linux:~ # df --print-type
Filesystem Type 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda2 ext3 7313252 6996128 0 100% /
udev tmpfs 898176 200 897976 1% /dev
/dev/sda3 ext3 9859064 1523144 7835096 17% /home
/dev/sdc1 ext3 480696480 4865688 451411992 2% /Archives
/dev/sdb1 fuseblk 19543040 66628 19476412 1% /Special
linux:~ # mount
/dev/sda2 on / type ext3 (rw,acl,user_xattr)
/proc on /proc type proc (rw)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
debugfs on /sys/kernel/debug type debugfs (rw)
udev on /dev type tmpfs (rw)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620,gid=5)
/dev/sda3 on /home type ext3 (rw,acl,user_xattr)
/dev/sdc1 on /Archives type ext3 (rw,acl,user_xattr)
/dev/sdb1 on /Special type fuseblk
(rw,noexec,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096)
fusectl on /sys/fs/fuse/connections type fusectl (rw)
securityfs on /sys/kernel/security type securityfs (rw)
none on /proc/sys/fs/binfmt_misc type binfmt_misc (rw)
/proc on /var/lib/ntp/proc type proc (ro)
linux:~ # su -c ‘fdisk -l’
Disk /dev/sda: 20.0 GB, 20020396032 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2434 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xae88ae88
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sda1 1 262 2104483+ 82 Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda2 * 263 1187 7430062+ 83 Linux
/dev/sda3 1188 2434 10016527+ 83 Linux
Disk /dev/sdb: 20.0 GB, 20020396032 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 2434 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x757c757c
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 * 1 2433 19543041 7 HPFS/NTFS
Disk /dev/sdc: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x000266ec
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdc1 2 60801 488376000 83 Linux
linux:~ #
>
> well, we can hope 30 more are available…i might make it, but i
> really doubt it as neither parent lasted into their 90s…however, i
> am a youngster…i know that 'cause i like cake.
Longevity is the family history. Fathers side into their 80s, Mothers
side into their 90s, so I knew God willing I was going to get old and
never thought about it. Now that I’m old I still want to do it all
again, but I ache. 
Doesn’t matter ache or not I’m going to finish my
hotrod truck. 
>
> hmmmmm…i just read mktyap’s post changing
> permissions/ownership/other of your home…his is FAR beyond my
> knowledge/understanding…so, i can’t comment…but, note he has made
> two posts since joining in nov 08 (which probably is a recommendation
> as is too busy for most of the bubble gum Q$As)…but, will mention:
> have you yet found the ‘manual’? that is, (with reference to mktyap’s
> post) in a terminal type
>
> man chown
>
Can’t get to the man pages no free space. I’ve got a KVM switch on order
… I’ll just have to switch between computers.
> and enjoy the purity…
>
> if i forgot to say earlier: welcome to SUSE Linux and have a lot of fun…
>
I thought I’d given the computer thing up, except pointing and clicking,
so I must be having fun. I hope to be able to contribute sometime.
ok, its almost bed time…so gotta make this fast…hope i don’t make
any mistakes…
oh, read this caveat: http://www.texan.dk/temp/SUSEcaveat.html
yep–your system root is FULL…
i’ve looked at the way you laid out the partitioning of the three
drives, and am impressed…you are not the average new guy we get
here…but, the ‘mistake’ is you only have about 7 GB for the system
itself…which IS enough for a rather skinny install…but, as you see
not QUITE enough for what you installed…(i just looked, my / is using
just a little over 7 of 20 GB)
so, you have to make room on that sda,…and i can’t decide FOR you
the best way, but with no other knowledge than what i have from the
commands you ran (thanks) i’d GUESS if it were mine i would:
that would free the 7 GB of sda3, which you could then delete and
expand sda2, giving your root system ~14 GB
[well, hmmmmm…i guess if you wished you could use YaST to delete
some stuff, but i doubt you wanna do that cause yo probable wanna (for
example) “play with” both KDE and Gnome, and Xfce and several of
the others…and, have several different browsers, blah blah
blah…but…OH, by the way, if you are gonna “get into” photos,
music, videos, etc you are gonna chew up a lot more disk space than
that 7 GB in home…if it were me…well…give /home a LOT of
space…my /archive is actually just another folder under my home
(yes, home is a separate partition)]
now, i’m gonna tell you that i expanded and/or contracted a partition
once or twice, but not recent enough to be much help…so i’ll leave
the details of how to follow my ‘plan’ to you own research/devices…
hmmmm…i GUESS i’d do it in this order:
-make sdc1 smaller
-create sdc2 and format as ext3
-change the NAME of /home to something else, say /homeold
-mount sdc2 to /home
-move the contents of /homeold to /home *
-delete /homeold
-expand sda2 to fill the drive (leaving sda1 untouched, and swap)
REMINDER: all partitioning, fdisk checking and etc must be done with
the drive not in use…so, you can boot from the install disk and run
gparted, or HMMMMMM…i’m guessing (and yawning, so nose around the
this forum and or net and figure out how to do it)…hmmmmmm,
oh! i see you come in via nntp, so you MIGHT find it easier to do that
nosing around on the www at forums.opensuse.org, there is a search
function that can look at all the posts AND some older archives…
and, google indexes the forum…so if your search terms include suse
if will probably find all the relevant…
and, somewhere on the wiki
<http://en.opensuse.org/Welcome_to_openSUSE.org> there MUST be lots of
good info on partitioning…and making’em smaller or bigger…
i wouldn’t blame you if you wanted to get another opinion…if it
were me i’d probably change my name and start a new thread–this one
is named with a logon problem, so i’d start one with something like:
“Partition FULL, need partitioning & moving help”) which is more
likely to attract someone who knows more about all that than me (and,
hopefully know something)…
and, if you include all of those command results, along with OS
version and KDE3/KDE4/Gnome/whatever whoever drops in won’t have to ask…
sleepy time.
oh, did you ever use the old Norton Commander? if so, when you get a
chance install Midnight Commander (you can do that in YaST, or via
zypper as it is on the install DVD…just pop open a terminal type mc
and you will be in familiar terrain…
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solo
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MultiplePersonality wrote:
> ok, its almost bed time…so gotta make this fast…hope i don’t make
> any mistakes…
>
> -make sdc1 smaller
> -create sdc2 and format as ext3
> -change the NAME of /home to something else, say /homeold
> -mount sdc2 to /home
> -move the contents of /homeold to /home *
> -delete /homeold
> -expand sda2 to fill the drive (leaving sda1 untouched, and swap)
>
> REMINDER: all partitioning, fdisk checking and etc must be done with
> the drive not in use…so, you can boot from the install disk and run
> gparted, or HMMMMMM…i’m guessing (and yawning, so nose around the
> this forum and or net and figure out how to do it)…hmmmmmm,
>
> oh! i see you come in via nntp, so you MIGHT find it easier to do that
> nosing around on the www at forums.opensuse.org, there is a search
> function that can look at all the posts AND some older archives…
>
> and, google indexes the forum…so if your search terms include suse
> if will probably find all the relevant…
>
> and, somewhere on the wiki
> <http://en.opensuse.org/Welcome_to_openSUSE.org> there MUST be lots of
> good info on partitioning…and making’em smaller or bigger…
>
> i wouldn’t blame you if you wanted to get another opinion…if it
> were me i’d probably change my name and start a new thread–this one
> is named with a logon problem, so i’d start one with something like:
> “Partition FULL, need partitioning & moving help”) which is more
> likely to attract someone who knows more about all that than me (and,
> hopefully know something)…
>
> and, if you include all of those command results, along with OS
> version and KDE3/KDE4/Gnome/whatever whoever drops in won’t have to ask…
>
> sleepy time.
>
> oh, did you ever use the old Norton Commander? if so, when you get a
> chance install Midnight Commander (you can do that in YaST, or via
> zypper as it is on the install DVD…just pop open a terminal type mc
> and you will be in familiar terrain…
>
I think the plan right now is to move /home to Archives/oldhome. Then
qtpart to make / all of the sda. The move oldhome to sdc as /home. It
looks like I’ll have to compile qtparted, so if I run into problems
there, I’ll google forums for a native alternate. I have to drive to the
San Francisco bay area tomorrow, so it maybe a day or two before I know
where I’m at with the re-partitioning. There are a lot of gotchas along
the way so I may end up installing SUSE again.
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Larry G. Griffin wrote:
> There are a lot of gotchas along the way so I may end up installing
> SUSE again.
since you are just beginning this journey, that way might be the most
simple for sure!
but, probably not the path offering the most learning…not to mention
the most frustrating…
i’d probably opt for reinstall and use a different partitioning scheme
this time…(as i can easily find all the frustration i need without
looking for it…)
that said: i do NOT think it is necessary to compile a partitioner…i
know there is a partitioner on the install DVD (and Live
CD)…there should be (somewhere) ample instruction on how to call it
up and use it to repair what you have already installed, and save all
the patch download time, etc…
certainly, the Linux handyman tool box should (imo) include a free
Knoppix CD/DVD which has all the tools you are gonna need for a LONG
time…check it out: http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html
[hint: do not get version 6-ADRIAN as that is focused on providing on
screen reading navigation, stick to any non-ADRIAN version]
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solo
MultiplePersonality wrote:
> Larry G. Griffin wrote:
>> There are a lot of gotchas along the way so I may end up installing
>> SUSE again.
>
> since you are just beginning this journey, that way might be the most
> simple for sure!
>
I think keeping it simple is the answer right now. I think this journey
will be a long one or I would have ended it already.
> but, probably not the path offering the most learning…not to mention
> the most frustrating…
>
> i’d probably opt for reinstall and use a different partitioning scheme
> this time…(as i can easily find all the frustration i need without
> looking for it…)
That was a thought, but back to the learning.
>
> that said: i do NOT think it is necessary to compile a partitioner…i
> know there is a partitioner on the install DVD (and Live
> CD)…there should be (somewhere) ample instruction on how to call it
> up and use it to repair what you have already installed, and save all
> the patch download time, etc…
I checked and parted is on the Live CD.
>
> certainly, the Linux handyman tool box should (imo) include a free
> Knoppix CD/DVD which has all the tools you are gonna need for a LONG
> time…check it out: http://www.knopper.net/knoppix/index-en.html
> [hint: do not get version 6-ADRIAN as that is focused on providing on
> screen reading navigation, stick to any non-ADRIAN version]
>
I downloaded knoppix for the future.
I’m going to follow your advice and start another post. I ran into a
problem with the repairing the system. In the expert mode of the repair,
partitioning is available with resizing. I’m having a problem with the
mount points.
Thanks for all your help, and I’m going to send you a message later.
Larry
It happen to me to what I did I reinstall suse and partitioning
all -> /home swap 0.
It work for me.
Good luck
Mike*
Mike, I may end up going your route yet. I have another thread started
with a mount point problem, after resizing the root partition. I’m lots
of new stuff. In the mickeysoft world you screw up your MBR or partition
and it is start all over.
I’ve only seen a couple of comments on partition sizes, and may want
larger partitions in the future. Right 20GB /, and 20GB /home will get
going again. I would be interesting to do a survey of partition
size/free space, for root and /home, then installed software. A synopsis
of that in the install would be nice.
Larry
> It happen to me to what I did I reinstall suse and partitioning
> all -> /home swap 0.
> It work for me.
>
> Good luck
>
> Mike
>
>
Larry G. Griffin wrote:
> I have another thread started with a mount point problem, after
> resizing the root partition. I’m lots of new stuff.
i don’t see that new posting…where did you put it?
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solo
MultiplePersonality wrote:
> Larry G. Griffin wrote:
>> I have another thread started with a mount point problem, after
>> resizing the root partition. I’m lots of new stuff.
>
> i don’t see that new posting…where did you put it?
>
In the 64 bit Forum. I just did quick looked at the docs for parted and
don’t see any mention of mounting.
> In the 64 bit Forum. I just did quick looked at the docs for parted and
> don’t see any mention of mounting.
hmmm…i don’t usually read that forum…i have a 64 bit machine but
got tired of all the special things one had to do to get all the stuff
working (of course, that was several years ago…when this machine was
new)…
any new partition you make isn’t gonna be automatically mounted until
YOU mount it…and, you can do that in YaST, or via an entry in fstab…
i’ll see if i can find that new post…
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solo