Can't install openSUSE 12.3 kde from usb

I use usb stick to install distros. Unetbootin worked fine for ubuntu , fedora. But when it comes to openSUSE most of the softwares failed. So I am trying to use linuxLive usb creator or live usb install 2.4.0 and both of them are able to show the menu for installation of opensuse 12.3 kde but while loading there was a sudden error msg saying “failed to find mbr identifier” reboot exception: rebooting in 120 minutes and loading stops. What causes this error?

openSUSe does not require an installer just copy the the iso as a binary.

Full instructions here

https://en.opensuse.org/Live_USB_stick

And here is an openSUSE bash script that does all of the work for you. You only need to install the bash script: S.C.L.U. - SuSE Create Live USB - Blogs - openSUSE Forums

If you have not used this script before, do not dismiss its abilities until you have given it a try.

Thank You,

I find the instructions confusing, it tells: “**Warning **Do not run isohybrid for 12.2 or higher. Skip this section.” But then there is nothing else in that section…
It could/should be a bit more clear and instead of telling to skip something just have a one paragraph instruction what to do with an iso or 12.2 or higher. I guess it’s too simple but for people, like me, who have not done something like that it’s better to just write the simple instructions, I think.

If you have a running copy of openSUSE in any format, you can use my bash script and no need to know how to make a thumb drive: S.C.L.U. - SuSE Create Live USB - Version 1.00 - Blogs - openSUSE Forums

Thank You,

On 2013-08-02 03:56, DadaKrpa wrote:
>
> gogalthorp;2574943 Wrote:
>> openSUSe does not require an installer just copy the the iso as a
>> binary.
>>
>> Full instructions here
>>
>> https://en.opensuse.org/Live_USB_stick
>
> I find the instructions confusing, it tells: “*Warning *Do not run
> isohybrid for 12.2 or higher. Skip this section.” But then there is
> nothing else in that section…

You have to skip:

Linux instructions
Warning Do not run isohybrid for 12.2 or higher. Skip this section.
Install syslinux/isohybrid → NO

continue with “Once completed just follow…”


Windows instructions
Get isohybrid → no
Install Perl → no
Create Hybrid ISO → no

continue with “Once completed just follow whichever set…”
Booting from USB-DVD

How to make a USB drive bootable

> It could/should be a bit more clear and instead of telling to skip
> something just have a one paragraph instruction what to do with an iso
> or 12.2 or higher. I guess it’s too simple but for people, like me, who
> have not done something like that it’s better to just write the simple
> instructions, I think.
>

It is a wiki, any volunteer can do it. The “skip…” was an emergency
minimal addition, to warn users not to use isohybrid any more. There are
not enough volunteers doing the writing.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

Thanks for your information. Unfortunately I am trying to install it on my new ultra book and still use Windows on my other computers.
Running Ubuntu and Kubuntu works fine from life USB. And making the life USB stick was just running unetbootin on Win 7. Why is it so different in Open Suse?

For Open Suse I tried various usb sticks (all 16Gb) format them on Win 7 and they show up as empty (as expected). Then when I use image writer to write the image (tried both the life CD and the full DVD) windows can’t read them anymore, also under Kubuntu (on the ultrabook) they are not recognized anymore. Booting from any of them also does not work.

The diskpart utility on Windows does not see the sticks after writing the image so I can’t apply the instructions for that, and on (life from stick) Kubuntu I can’t even find the device number so using fdisk as described on the website is also not possible.

Any help appreciated.

Can you burn the Live openSUSE iso image to a DVD by chance? If so, you can run it from a DVD and use my script to burn the Live USB. You would need to fetch the script from here in the Live session and have the iso image on a mapped drive or download it again also, but it can be done when you boot from a Live DVD.

Thank You,

Carlos, thank you for answering. I understood what you wrote and that I needed to continue somewhere. Though were was not clear, so the minimal emergency addition was maybe too minimal, one extra minute might have made it more clear. If I were capable I’d surely do that or my effort would be wasted.

I also understand all this is the hard work of volunteers and really appreciate this. I spend many hours a week helping others with computers (windows for now) also voluntary. To support the Linux efforts I joined “Join the Game” supporting the KDE development. Actually already for the last few years without even using Linux yet… I really love the spirit and idea of open source which is why I like to start fresh on my new computer with OpenSuse and ditch windows completely. I have used Open Suse time to time in the past on a desktop computer and really like the polish and looks.

Anyhow I am not new to computers but following all the instructions I am not able to get it to boot from USB stick (as in other thread those sticks work fine with Ubuntu and Kubuntu on the same computer)

When so much work goes into creating the distribution it is sad if it’s so hard to make the USB stick work. Many smaller computers do not have CD/DVD drives. If I were volunteer with this project I’d want my work to be valuable for others and try to make sure I leave instructions so those others can make it work. Of course my situation may be an exception but sure the wiki could be updated for the 12.3 and later versions, probably in less time than you and I took to write each other.

Sincerely,
Dada Krpasundarananda

Ok, I will try that. My new computer is 64-bit, the old one 32-bit, so I’ll have to dl the image for that one. Would the “openSUSE-12.3-Rescue-CD-i686” work? If so I’d just need to hunt down a blank DVD.

You just need a binary low level copy to the USB. Don’t use linuxLive usb creator or live usb install 2.4.0, they are not needed for 12.3. No modification tot the iso is needed Follow the instruction here https://en.opensuse.org/Live_USB_stick

I did and had no problem booting.

You know I have not tried to use the rescue CD for that purpose before. If you can get Firefox and terminal to run, you are in business.

Thank You,

On 2013-08-04 04:16, jdmcdaniel3 wrote:
>
> DadaKrpa;2576716 Wrote:
>> Ok, I will try that. My new computer is 64-bit, the old one 32-bit, so
>> I’ll have to dl the image for that one. Would the
>> “openSUSE-12.3-Rescue-CD-i686” work? If so I’d just need to hunt down a
>> blank DVD.

Yes, it will work. A CD suffices, you do not need a DVD.

> You know I have not tried to use the rescue CD for that purpose before.
> If you can get Firefox and terminal to run, you are in business.

There “Midori” in the rescue CD, not firefox :slight_smile:


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

For some reason I can’t get Suse to run on my old computer. My friend has Ubuntu installed on his computer (the same model that I like to use with SUSE) Can I run your script from his computer or is a Suse installation needed?

Sincerely,
Dada

The bash script loads needed applications using zypper and so is specific to openSUSE. Any PC that can run even a openSUSE Live DVD could be used to run the script, downloading needed files from the internet online.

Thank You,

On 2013-08-04 18:56, DadaKrpa wrote:

> For some reason I can’t get Suse to run on my old computer. My friend
> has Ubuntu installed on his computer (the same model that I like to use
> with SUSE) Can I run your script from his computer or is a Suse
> installation needed?

You can create the USB stick on any Linux computer using ‘dd’.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

Hello James,

Spend the whole evening yesterday but so far no success. I downloaded the life CD and ran Suse on my old laptop, successfully ran the script (using local imgs) but still non of the sticks (either using the Suse DVD edition or the life edition) are even recognized in the bios of the new computer. As before all these sticks work fine when using unetbootin (on Windows) to put either Ubuntu or Kubuntu. After I tried again with K/Ubuntu and they worked fine again after.

Right now I am downloading the DVD version by bittorrent instead of direct dl to make sure it is not corrupted. I saw two earlier images had different file size but the same name so I guess at least one of them is corrupted. I never had corrupted dl with images so far. I’ll check the others with MD5 later. It would be strange if all the suse ones are corrupt, while none of the others I dlded had trouble. Anyhow better to check. However, would this explain the sticks are not even recognized in the bios when ‘burned’ with either the script or the image writer?

Dada

On 2013-08-05 16:16, DadaKrpa wrote:

> Right now I am downloading the DVD version by bittorrent instead of
> direct dl to make sure it is not corrupted. I saw two earlier images had
> different file size but the same name so I guess at least one of them is
> corrupted. I never had corrupted dl with images so far. I’ll check the
> others with MD5 later. It would be strange if all the suse ones are
> corrupt, while none of the others I dlded had trouble. Anyhow better to
> check. However, would this explain the sticks are not even recognized in
> the bios when ‘burned’ with either the script or the image writer?

It might, a corrupted image can fail in many ways. I always download via
metalinks.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.3 x86_64 “Dartmouth” at Telcontar)

Is it possible these are USB 3 ports and don’t have USB 2 legacy support turned on? Some PC’s don’t even scan USB ports to boot by default, but may allow you to press F12 and then select the USB drive to boot from.

Thank YOu,

Thanks so much for all the help and pointers. The ports were fine. It seemed that just the way to write it to the stick was the problem.
Tried many things and Linux on my old computer was too slow so I looked more and finally started a live session of Kubuntu, then copied the live Open Suse iso from my external drive and used:

cp openSUSE-12.3-KDE-Live-x86_64 /dev/sdd

Could not be much simpler… Also tried Universal-USB-Installer, with that the stick was recognized but then no boot image found. The dd command which was recommended in many places also did not do the trick as there was something wrong with the permissions. Could be because of the live system but as cp worked I did not try further.

Once installed I’ll try your script again and see if it works. I think when I tried it earlier the problem was that the iso was corrupted. I did not try again with the new iso’s as the live system was just too slow.

Ok, I only tested the live one. Now I’ll put the full DVD and do the installation. Next is to upgrade to the latest kernel to get the wireless to work properly… The patches are in the 3.10 kernel. Is there a suse kernel or should I try a generic one? I am sure there are how to’s but if you have a pointer to a suse specific page I’d be happy to know.

Thanks again for all the help to get me started!

Dada