Hi,
I’m a newbie to this forum. I have installed 13.2 three times from scratch and run into the same problem each time. I am to far away from my router to hook it up directly so I am trying to use a wireless connection from the start. It lets me set up my either of my 2 wireless adapters during the install. But after it is installed and boots I have no wireless connection. If I try and use Yast to edit the card(s) or to change from “wicked” to “Network Manager” it gives me the same catch22 every time. Its says “iw package must be installed”. The catch22 is that it tries to get it from from an online depo and of course it can’t because there is no connection. I re-installed from dead scratch 3 times and exact same problem each time.
Note: I tried Ubuntu 14.0.4.2 first and it worked right off with either my USB or PCI wireless adapters. But I decided I hate Unity so wanted to give OpenSuse a try as I like kde better.
So my question obviously is there a way around this or do you HAVE to have a wired connection for at least the initial install?
No, you don’t have to have a wired connection for the initial install.
(there is a problem with the NETinstall CD in that it doesn’t work with wireless connections though)
The package iw should be on the installation medias, so just insert that and install it from there. (although I think it should be installed by default anyway, I never had to install it manually at least)
You might have to add or enable the installation medium in YaST->Software Repositories (I think the medium you installed from should be added by default, just disabled)
If you install from scratch again, just click on “Software” in the installation summary and make sure that iw is marked for installation.
Or just download the package on a different system, and install it with “zypper in xxx.rpm” or “rpm -i xxx.rpm”, or by just opening it in the file manager. openSUSE Software (click on “Show other versions” to be able to download it)
I’ll give that a try. I was about ready to give up and re-install Ubuntu. After I posted I spent about 6 more fruitless hours Googling and trying things out. I couldn’t believe they would leave something so important out of the DVD install. Its a recent download from just 3 days ago and it checked out with verify etc. One thing I tried was doing yet another install from scratch and this time I didn’t configure ANY network devices and just hit next. After the install I then went into Yast and changed it from “Wicked” to “Network Manager” and guess what. It still did the same thing looking for “iw package”. It only looks for it at an online repos. I had no idea how much trouble it would be to install this. The only other system I have running right now is Mac Mavericks but its dual boot on the same computer so its hard to just switch and get it from there but if I have to I will get it there and put it on a USB card I guess. If that doesn’t work I’ll go back to Ubuntu and maybe try again in a few months and see if that problem has been corrected.
P.S. I did try and add the install media from Yast but couldn’t find it as a choice.
As I said, I never had to install that manually.
But I haven’t done a fresh install of 13.2 yet. All my systems are upgraded from 13.1.
P.S. I did try and add the install media from Yast but couldn’t find it as a choice.
It should be in the list, something like “openSUSE 13.2” with an URL like “usb://…” or “dvd://…”.
If in doubt, please post the output of “zypper lr -d”.
You should also be able to add a DVD/USB drive as installation source when clicking on “Add”.
PS: you could also switch to NetworkManager manually. Maybe it would work without iw? AIUI the problem is just that YaST’s module does not want to start when iw is not installed.
To do that just stop network.service and start NetworkManager.service instead:
You should then be able to configure the wireless with your desktop’s networkmanagement applet, and install iw to get YaST working.
This won’t survive a reboot though, so you should still switch in YaST if you want to use NetworkManager, which you should be able to do afterwards.
PS: The package is contained as file on the DVD, so you could just install it manually fromt here too, by just opening it in a file manager or with rpm or zypper.
It’s located in suse/x86_64 or suse/i586 respectively (or similar, I don’t have an installation DVD handy to check), which one to install would depend on whether you use a 32bit or a 64bit system.
I ended up installing it off a usb drive after downloading it manually from software.opensuse.org/package/**iw. **
I was able to add the install DVD as a repos but it refused to use it and kept trying to get it from online. I even deleted all the repos except the DVD and it still wouldn’t use it.
So now the Networking Manager Services works and I can get online. But now I have an even bigger problem. I can’t keep the system running more than a few minutes. It freezes no matter what its running and goes to an all black screen with just the cursor. No errors, no disk activity. I have a full 8 hours into trouble shooting this today.
I tried to let it do the 100’s of updates but it always crashes a few minutes into it with the black screen. Then its corrupted and needs a full clean install again. I think I am on the twelfth reinstall now. I even tried a different hard drive even though this one works works fine with Ubuntu.
Not sure what to do so unless someone can tell me what I am doing wrong I will have to give up on this.
The PC I am loading this on is a AMD based ASUS with 4 gb ram, Phenom II 940 4 core. Its rock solid running Ubuntu and Mac Mavericks off an SSD drive as a Hackintosh.
I also re-downloaded the install iso and burned a new copy - same problem. The problems are all 100% repeatable. I even re-installed Ubuntu on the original hard drive just to make sure a new problem didn’t happen since I started this mess. It installed and ran normally on the very first try.
Any ideas?
Its a “vintage” run of the mill Asus GeForce 8400 GS 512 MB. It always works for a few minutes and then everything on the screen freezes. Then after a few seconds you get the black screen with a cursor you can still move but not do anything with. Even if you boot it up and don’t touch anything it will still do it after a short while. Its funny it works with the live disk I tried first and works during the install.
Then after a few seconds you get the black screen with a cursor you can still move but not do anything with.
This sounds like plasma-desktop crashing.
If that’s the case you should still be able to press Alt+F2 and get a command window.
You could run programs there, or “plasma-desktop” to get back the KDE desktop.
Maybe try to disable desktop effects first, by pressing Shift+Alt+F12.
up and don’t touch anything it will still do it after a short while. Its funny it works with the live disk I tried first and works during the install.
Well, during the install no KDE is running. And on the LiveCD not necessarily exactly the same as when it is installed (different default settings, missing stuff on the LiveCD).
I can’t seem to get anywhere with this. I wanted to try and install the other nvidia drivers but it won’t stay up long enough to download and install them. Launching Vast freezes and crashes the system while trying to get them. Launching Firefox freezes the whole system as soon as it comes up. Either case gives the black screen after a few seconds. And using alt/f2 does bring up the text window but as soon as you type the first character into it the window goes away. If you hit alt/f2 a second time nothing happens. Then you have to restart the pc.
I guess since I selected KDE at install Gnome isn’t installed. I tried logging out right after boot up but only lets me sign back in using KDE. And the system wont stay up long enough to install Gnome. I guess I have to do yet another clean install to get Gnome installed instead of KDE to see if that changes the problem for the better.
The only other clue I see is that it gets several errors after boot up stating that the system manager cant run because yast2 needs to be terminated if you run Yast.
I have to admit I am very near the end of the amount of time I am willing to put into getting this working. I basically have 3 eight hour days invested in this and still can’t get a system that boots up and stays running for more than a minute or 2.
And again the PC and fans are fine. I am using it with Mavericks to type this right now. And Ubuntu installs and runs first time every time.
I was hoping to get this working because I wanted more control over configuring it than Ubuntu and not having everything more or less locked in by a single company. This shouldn’t be this hard especially as I come from a UNIX background.
Sigh. I’ll try again:
Select “Recovery Mode” in “Advanced Options” in the boot menu, i.e. the second entry.
Is your system more stable then?
If yes, try to install the nvidia drivers then, it will hopefully help for normal mode.
Regarding your mention of GNOME not installed: IceWM is installed by default, you could try to select that at the login screen (click on the icon in the bottom-left corner). Should also run more stable than KDE if it is indeed a graphics driver problem.
And yes, you can only run one package manager at the same time. There is no “YaST”, only YaST2 (with compatibility symlinks named yast and YaST), but you cannot run this more than once at the same time too.
But I’d rather think your error message mentioned packagekitd already running… This is used by KDE’s update applet.
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I tried using the “Recovery Mode” off the install DVD and it eventually ends up at a text “Login” after lots of startup texts that doesn’t accept my username or password. I never get to any graphics or desktop. #2
The system is set to auto login but if I logout it puts me to a screen with nothing at all except a spot to enter my username and password. No other icons or any desktop choices. It does let me log back in.
Boot off the DVD that is different. On the normal grub booting from the computer screen there is under the normal boot an entry called advanced. select this it will lead you to another menu with recovery as an option.
This is the trouble with auto login it really is a bad choice since it assumes all things are working right.
How do you access the GRUB boot options? I can’t find any info on it. The GRUB screen just says “Welcome to Grub” for a second or 2 and then starts booting. If you hit any key at that time it just goes right into booting. So how to do you gain access to that menu?
The grub boot menu should be shown automatically after that “Welcome to Grub” message (which is just displayed while grub is loading), and it should be shown at least for 8 seconds (by default) if you don’t do anything.
If it isn’t there, try to remove the file /boot/grub2/grubenv, you can do this in text mode as well when graphics mode is too unstable.
Just press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to switch to text mode and login, then type:
sudo rm /boot/grub2/grubenv
This should make the boot menu reappear.
And regading the login screen, there should be two icons at the bottom, a “spanner” in the left and a “power-off button” in the right corner.
If they are not there, then the picture is probably too large for your screen. Installing the proprietary driver might fix this as well.
I haven’t changed any boot loader settings. I can’t even get the **** thing to run long enough to do anything let alone that.
After the “Welcome to Grub” I get a green lizard with a time out bar under it. No Menu.
Also please note I have reinstalled this from dead scratch with fresh reformat etc more than TWELVE times and this boots the same way every time. So no I have NOT changed any settings.
Never have used hibernate. Ever. Besides it dies before it would even get to hibernate even if it was enabled. Also as I have already mentioned I made a point of stating I did not use BTRFS for any of the partitions.
At the login screen I get 2 small text windows each with a small icon, one the “user” icon and the other a key for the password window. Above the 2 text input windows is my username. The rest of the screen has the same wallpaper as the normal desktop. No other icons or features on the screen.
Edit:
The other problem is since Firefox crashes the system I have to reboot into Mavericks every time I need to check back here or try other ways to find solutions so its a royal pain working on this.
I found that hitting the down arrow when the GRUB timeout bar is present brings up the menu! I was able to boot it in recovery mode. Came up in a slightly different resolution.
Next I tried to download and install the Nvidia drivers. Its a huge bunch of files.
The first time it made it to 40% and then froze and then a few seconds later the black screen.
So it fails the exact same way in recovery mode.
Then I rebooted it into recovery mode a second time and tried the Nvidia drivers again. This time it made it all the way to 2% before it died with the black screen.
So here is another catch22. The problem may or may not be the Nvidia drivers but there is no way to install them to find out.
So what to try next?
2 packages match you kernel flavor. If not changed it should be desktop
all packages have G0X were X is 2 to 4 in it’s name Which to use is dependent on your card version
DO NOT INSTALL ALL NVIDIA PACKAGES
This will not work ony the ones for first for your card then the installed kernel flavor
Note that if this is the first update a huge number of files get updated. What is on the DVD is from back when the 13.2 was released so lots of updates since then
It maybe possible that you got caught by the bad kernel upgrade that happened in the last couple of days. It was very recently removed but you could have got that depending on when you downloaded. I can’t remember when the last kernel update problem happend it is very rare but you may have been caught.
Tell us the kernel number it is in the advanced menu. If you have more then one kernel showing in the menu try the older one (lower number on end)