can't dual boot Vista and OpenSuse

Thanks for any help. Been trying this by the guess and error method for days.
I know about the “Swerdna” post but it is way to difficult for me.
I do this every other output from Microsoft, so it is very difficult to remember
what transpired. Bedsides it changes with each new distro.
I’m tempted to use the VM program that Dedoimodo recommended but I don’t know
how it handles Email and urls. If they are permanent or not.

HD1 - Vista - sda
HD2 - Opensuse 11.2 - No boot to MBR - sdb
Easybcd(latest one) to handle the boot loader.
Set Easybcd to Grub Legacy and point to sdb2 for booting.
Nothing I do works.

Had a previous installation on this Puter with Vista, XP Pro abd PCLinuxOS
Worked fine.

Just put grub on MBR of sdb
And set sdb first boot in BIOS

Thank you Caf4926 for replying.
What happens to Vista if I do as you recommend.
Will Grub take over and give me the option of going to Vista or OpenSuse?
Or will I completely lose Vista?

You won’t lose VISTA but you you may have to tickle the menu.lst file to point to the windows boot partition.

Get us this info

fdisk -l
cat /etc/fstab
cat /boot/grub/menu.lst

Vista would be fine BTW

Thank you so much for responding.
Here is part of the data you requested Caf4926

Fdisk -l
device boot start end blocks id system
/dev/sdb1 1 262 2104483+ 82 linux swap /sloaris
/dev/sdb2 * 263 2873 20072857+ 83 linux
/dev/sdb3 2874 77825 602051940 83 linux

cat /etc/fstab
/dev/disk/by-id/ata-wdc_wd6400aaks-60a7b0_wd-wmasy3678284-part1 swap swap default 0 0
/dev/disk/by-id/ata-wdc_wd6400aaks-00a7b0_wdwmasy3678284-part2 ext4 acl,user_xattr 1 1 /dev/disk/by-id/ata-wdc_wd6400aaks-00a7b0_wdwmasy3678284-part3 /home ext4 acl,user_
xzttr 1 2
/dev/disk/by-id/ata-st380815as_6rw1tz61-part1 /windows/c ntfs-39 users,gid=users,
fmask=133,dmasl=-22,locale=en_us.utf-8 0 0
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
stsfs /sys stsfs noauto 0 0
debugfd /sys/kerna;/debug debugfs noauto 0 0
devpts /dev/ats devpts mode= 0620,GID=5 0 0

That’s a start but it’s incomplete
Where is the other HD
and the menu.lst

Also tell me is sda or sdb set first in the BIOS

cat /boot/grub/menu.lst

modified by Yart2, last modification on tue Jan 12 12:29:23 est 2010

this file will be partially overwritten by perl-bootloader

configure custom boot parameters for up dated kernals in etc/sysconfig/bootloader

default 0
timeout 8


gfxmenu (hd0,1)/boot/message

yast- activate

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title OpenSuse 11.2
root (hd0,1)
kernal /boot/vmlinuz-,1-default root=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-wdc_
wd6400aaks-00a7b0_wd-wmasy3678284-part2 resume=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-wdc_
wd6400aaks-00a730_wd-wmasy3677824-part1 splash=silent quiet showpts vga=0x31a
initrd /boot/initrd-

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title windows
map (hd1) (hd0)
map (hd0) (hd1)
rootnoverify (hd1,0)
chainloader +1

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title floppy
rootnoverify (fd0)
chainloader +1

don’t change this comment - yast2 identifier: original name: failsafe###

title failsafe – opensuse 11.2
root (hd0,1)
kernal /boot/vmlinuz-
root=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-wdc_wd6400aaks-00a7b0_wd-wmagy3678284-part2 showopts
apm=off noresume nosmp maxpus=0 ed0=off powersaved=off nohz=off highres=off
processor_max_cstate+1 x11failsafe vgs+0x31a
initrd /boot/initrd-
That’s it. Let me know if you need anything else.

HD1- st380815as - has windows vista on it
HD2 - wd6400aaks - has opensuse 11.2 on it
sda should be 1st and is vista
sdb should be 2nd and is opensuse

Will get the menu list to you as quick as I can

I’m confident looking at that, if you make the linux HD first in BIOS
and follow this
Re-Install Grub Quickly with Parted Magic - openSUSE Forums

You should get grub on the Linux HD MBR.

My only concern is when you boot windows, do you still have some BCD thingy?
Consider restoring the original windows boot code there first if this is the case.
And if you do that with only the win HD connected, remember you have to reset the HD order in BIOS

It may sound complicated, but it’s really easy;)

This is what’s in NST nst_linux.mbr
There is no menu.lst
this was created by Easybcd

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Well, if BCD boots windows now, leave it and see, it should be ok. That it doesn’t boot Linux doesn’t matter, we are using grub anyway.

Sorry but your last message totally lost me.
If I disconnect the C HD (Vista), I can boot into OpenSuse with no problem.
Doesn’t that mean I have Grub in good working order there.
It is when I plug the C HD back in that I can’t boot to OpenSuse.
I hate to be this much of a bother but I really DON’T want to go back to
PclinuxOS. I have things I have to do on Vista is the only reason I am keeping it.

Booting into OpenSuse does matter to me. I need to be able to go back
and forth between them which I can’t do now without changing the order of the BIOS all the time.

If suse boots when it’s HD alone is connected, it does mean grub is OK there. All you need to do then is make the SUSE HD the first boot HD in BIOS. Do you know how?

Yes I know how to do that.
I’ll try it but I don’t think I will be able to boot into Windows that way.

It’s clearer now.

Get it so suse is booting and we will work on windows. We may need to edit the menu

Tell us what happens when you try and boot windows from the SUSE grub menu

And I still need to see a fdisk -l
showing the windows HD partitions

Just so you know, I have to crash/sleep

I can’t ever thank you enough. It’s working now and I can boot into both
Windows and OpenSuse from the Suse desktop. I changed the order of the 2 HDs in the
BIOS and that did the trick.
Needless to say the next thing I am going to do is a BACKUP!

I have this to look forward to again when windows 8,9 etc. comes out.

ONE more easy question if I may.
I am using the Gnome edition of Suse only because the 2 downloads of the DVD failed.
Where can I order the DVD version Please?
Thank you again for your patience with me.

Fdisk has a different function in Windows so I can’t give you the information that way.
The Vista HD uses the entire HD
The Suse HD is the same as a few posts earlier.

In my excitement of seeing Suse on the screen I spoke to soon.
When clicking on Suse now I get a black screen with a lot of scrolling white letters
and at the end this message: “Linux-cd19 Login” and NO desktop.
Have to hit Control/Alt/Delete or power off the Puter to get out of it.
Don’t have the vaguest idea where to go from here.
Vista is working fine.