After having to set up KDE afresh due to problems switching from 4.13
to 4.14 and openSUSE 13.1 to 13.2, I need to create a new activity to
provide different power settings.
When I click on “create activity” and select any of the menu items,
nothing happens. I’ve gone back to a 13.1 session with KDE 4.11 and
another with 4.14.1, set up a new user in each case, and found no
problem in setting up a new activity so the problem appears to be with
openSUSE 13.2.
I’ll check on bugzilla when that is up and running again, in order to
see if anything has been reported but judging by experience, even if
there is something there, I probably won’t find anything.
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Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 13.2-m0 (64-bit); KDE 4.14.1; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Kernel: 3.16.2; Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nouveau driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
Install “kactivities4” and it will probably start working.
I seem to recall that there is already a bug report on this.
Yes, it is Bug 896660. That link doesn’t work at present (bugzilla is still being worked on), but you can probably see the email report.
I didn’t much like what I read in the bug report. It said that this was a deliberate decision, to give us the option of not having activities. However, I see it as broken. If the activities manager is installed and available, then it should work. Giving us the activities manager but making it broken by default was just a bad decision.
When I showed this bug at Akademy 2014 conference, the openSUSE representatives stared at this bug.
So I created that above mentioned bug report. But everybody can see that “big” activity to resolve this problem.
It works without a problem in prepared Fedora 21 or Kubuntu 14.10.
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> nrickert;2665567 Wrote:
> >
> > I seem to recall that there is already a bug report on this.
> >
> > Yes, it is ‘Bug 896660’
> > (https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=896660).
> >
>
> When I showed this bug at Akademy 2014 conference, the openSUSE
> representatives stared at this bug.
> So I created that above mentioned bug report. But everybody can see
> that “big” activity to resolve this problem.
>
> It works without a problem in prepared Fedora 21 or Kubuntu 14.10.
>
I added a comment to that bug report. I’ve also installed the missing
program and found that I had indeed created a new activity but the
system had been unable to display it. I suspect that on other machines
I must also have some invisible activities lying around.
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Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 13.2-m0 (64-bit); KDE 4.14.1; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Kernel: 3.16.2; Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nouveau driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
I agree with your bug comment. And, yes, the activity manager does seem to create activities that cannot be accessed until kactivities4 is installed.
I found that if I create a new user account without “kactivities4”, it gets an activity called “Main” and nothing works for changing it (until kactivities4 is installed).
If I create a new user account after installing “kactivities4”, then it gets initial activities “Desktop”, “Desktop Icons” and “New Activities”, and everything works.
My factory systems were installed before they stopped including “kactivities4”. I’ve done a couple of test installs since then, and seen the problem. I was expecting to install the 13.2-beta this weekend, which would have given another test point. But that seems to be delayed. I’ll try another fresh install within a few days, either the “beta” if available, or the most recent factory snapshot. If it does not auto-install kactivities4, I’ll add my own comments to your bug report.
Get off your high-horse and engage people. I asked for access to the 13.1 GM as soon as it was ready so I could have a review up on release day. My request went ignored. How about getting folks to write articles on actual websites and not in those horrid forum articles section. Sorry, but openSUSE Lizards isn’t much better (horrible format). You need something that looks a little better. Maybe try offering some swag or something to potential writers too.
To clear something up:
They never stopped including kactivities4, and it was recommended by kdebase4-workspace all the time, so it should have been installed by default.
But, kdebase4-workspace recommended kactivities4 in at least the version of the current KDE. As there never was a kactivities4 4.14 release, the latest available version is 4.13.3 though. So after KDE 4.14 was released, kactivities4-4.14.0 was recommended which isn’t available of course.
zypper just ignores this then because it is only a recommendation, and you end up with no kactivities4 installed on a fresh installation.
This has been fixed today, and the Recommends is now a Required, so you cannot even uninstall kactivities4 any more if you wanted to.
