Cannot Load Either XP or OpenSUSE 12.2; Cannot Boot from CD/DVD Installers (ASAP)

Good day.

As what my header states, I now have difficulty booting up both operating systems. Originally, my old AMD K6-2 [533 MhZ] powered IBM Aptiva PC was running Windows 98 SE then I upgraded it to Windows XP; but yesterday, I decided to dual boot it with the LXDE desktop flavour of OpenSUSE 12.2. I had a ready partition on the drive (D: ) then I ran the DVD installer upon system reboot. Everything was working fine on the prior steps of the installation, but when I had to edit the partition (i.e., select D: \ or, …sda/ext3 as seen on the linux partition detector, if I still remember lucidly, ) and attempt to reformat it for OS installation (I chose ntsf just the same, even if I knew that the D: \ is still on ntsf), it just would not budge. I was getting the ERROR -3002 notification, and with such, I knew the OS install was unsuccessful so I then had to revert back to Windows which booted smoothly as it should. I checked D: \ then saw it was now RAW. I thought it fine since I knew that when I would run the OpenSUSE installer again, it would detect the drive (I’ve done this a couple of times a year ago with Windows 7 and I did a successful dual boot Linux install). Sure enough, it did; however, as I ran the installer again and within the phase for recommending a pattern for partitioning, I could not see which drive has the Windows OS anymore. Plus, the GB size for the partitions were so large, I had a hunch it would be partitioning the entire drive. With this, I already had difficulty re-sizing the partitions because I don’t have a vantage point anymore, unlike when I first ran the OpenSUSE installer and saw that I had my D: \ intact. But still I went along the recommended partitioning pattern, did the install—which went on without any glitches, by the way—then attempted to boot from the hard drive. Heretofore commences the “Error Loading Operating System” which continues to this day.

Nevertheless, this morning, I tried to recover booting from Windows XP so I decided to boot from the installer CD. Surprisingly, it would not budge but instead, the “Error Loading Operating System” message appears. But whenever I try to autorun OpenSUSE on installer, the said OS’ installation interface shows up.

It appears, therefore, I am in a ditch on this… and partly because I’m to blame since I didn’t pay too much attention to partitioning, unlike my previous installs on other systems. I would appreciate any help that everyone may give regarding this. I have searched many online fora on this particular question but it seems that none so far has covered a bit of what I am trying to find out. Right now, all I’d want is to access Windows, take care of D: \ then go over the dual boot install again, but this time more carefully. Thanks very much.

It is simply not possible to install onto d:,E: etc…
You must clear up some space on your machine and create an “un-partitioned space” on your machine
Linux will detect that when you run installer and will come an sit in that “un-partitioned space”.

In your case we should fix windows first and then create some(30GB+) “un-partitioned” space and then install linux/openSUSE

Ok you are using the bad MS naming ie C: D: etc these are not necessarily drives even if Window call them that they are partitions.

to install simply remove any Windows partitions you don’t want and use the Windows partitioner to adjust the size of what is left to give the free space you want Linux to have. Then let the installer do its thing. You should always scrutinize the partition scheme before committing to it to be sure it is what you want/expect… You can adjust it in case you need by going to expert mode. The default will produce 3 partitions swap, root, home.

Yeah, I should fix Windows first because I know I did screw up on the partitioning. I’m quite surprised since I consider myself not that new to dual booting since I’ve done dual boots on other machines running Windows 7 about a year ago and of course, I figured, doing that sort on an XP would not pose lots of problems. But I’ve forgotten how I did the dual booting magic and now… I’m scraping the dust. Arrgh.

Anyway, since the machine would not boot from the Windows XP CD, how should I go about this? I have never encountered NOT being able to boot from the CD or DVD even if the OS (on the hd, that is) has been corrupted.

The “magic” would have been done by openSUSE installation CD itself but somehow on this machine it is not able to “compute” the various combinations necessary to make things work :frowning:

You might try this


-Boot up off you windows xp installation disk
-when its done loading press "r"
-you should now be at a black screen that looks like the command prompt
-type "fixboot"
-press enter
-restart
-be happy 

source:- How to fix “Error loading Operating System”

OK. I’ll try. Crossing my fingers on this one. Will reply ASAP. :slight_smile:

OK. So here’s it now:

I inserted the Windows installation CD to boot it up from there. Then it did, prompted me to “Enter any key to boot from CD” and when I pressed “r” as per instruction, the message goes “Error loading operating system”.

Keeps me in the dumps, still.

Did we consider the possibility that the windows cd/dvd is intact or not ?

When it means that the windows is either intact nor not, does relate to its capacity to boot? If so, then yes, I could concur. I have been using the said disk ever since before, inasmuch as I have done OS installs through it. But, please enlighten me further. :slight_smile:

I did precisely what you said when I engaged in dual booting with linux the previous year. But for some reason, right now, I didn’t take this into consideration. /facepalm/

On 03/06/2013 05:46 AM, smmonreal wrote:
> As what my header states, I now have difficulty booting up both
> operating systems.

i’d say that anytime one has difficulty booting two different
operating system install disks then the likelyhood of a hardware
problems is pretty high…i’d suspect the CD/DVD reader is sick
maybe…or maybe you have some bad RAM [does the Test Memory on the
12.2 install disk boot up? the test itself is broken, so it WILL
report bad RAM, a waste of time to run…see the release notes]…or
maybe the BIOS is confused [maybe you need to go in there and check
all the settings…and, if not certain what they should be maybe
select to return the settings to ‘Default’]

> my old AMD K6-2 [533 MhZ] powered IBM Aptiva PC was running Windows 98 SE

that last century K6 box was just right for that last century
software, but is so very under powered and ill prepared to run even
Vista or last decades SuSE (with a DE), here are the hardware
requirements for far advanced (compared to even Win7) openSUSE 12.2:

http://doc.opensuse.org/documentation/html/openSUSE/opensuse-startup/art.osuse.installquick.html#sec.osuse.installquick.sysreqs

if you wish to run a Linux on that box along side XP (will XP
actually run ok on it?? slow, huh?) i’d suggest you look at a distro
designed for the older hardware, like Puppy
http://puppylinux.org/ or DSL
http://tinyurl.com/5md7t

if the hardware turns out able to boot anything

ymmv!


dd
http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat

I had been running XP on that machine ever since I changed the OS from 98SE and it works fast without the really heavy software that exhausts the RAM. XP with minimalist software is on tip-top shape on that old contraption… which is somehow a bit surprising. Given thus, based on my readings, I concluded that an LXDE desktop install of OpenSUSE would be apt enough for speed and performance, similar to how Lubuntu is (I have read in one of those online articles that I wasn’t able to bookmark that Lubuntu is LXDE, thus compatible for older hardware.)

I am still figuring out a workaround on this thing.

> I concluded that an LXDE desktop install of OpenSUSE would
> be apt enough for speed and performance

give it a try…

considering that the folks who make it, recommend 1 GB of RAM, take a
patience pill, first.


dd
http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat

That’s not what you’ve been told to do. You have to boot up from the CD, i.e. hit a key immediately when “Enter any key to boot from CD” shows up. Then wait until the XP installer has finished starting up, then press “R”.