Cannot Listen To Internet Radio

Very inexperienced user of Linux.

I am using openSUSE 11.3 (64-bit version). My audio card is Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio (PCIe version).

I just installed some ALSA patches (alsa-driver-kmp) as suggested in this thread: Driver for Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio (PCIe) and I am now able to listen to CD music. However I am still having problems with Internet radio.

For instance, when I go to AccuRadio | Internet Radio You Control and pick the Classical channel, another window pops up but the music is not streaming. Am I missing some other driver?

How about other internet sites that stream audio ? For example, do you get audio from videso in YouTube?

*** … before I forget … Congratulations on getting your X-Fi sound to function!! :slight_smile: ]***

Thanks for the congratulations! I am glad that I’ve got this project partially taken care… And now let’s tackle what is left.

Apparently I cannot listen to any site that streams audio. I did find and tried to follow caf4926’s “Multi-media and Restricted Format Installation Guide 11.0” (Multi-media and Restricted Format Installation Guide). I think I got everything installed pertaining to release 11.3 but some of the commands suggested brought up choices as to what to install, so I cannot be 100% sure that I made the correct choices. (I can’t give you an example right now of what choices were presented because I ran everything yesterday evening late…)

Actually this is not an audio issue, but more a question of Flash working or not (at least that’d be my first notion) - that’s why oldcpu asked about whether you get sound on YouTube. So… how does YouTube work for you? Do you get sound and film or only film or neither of them? Does any audio work in a webbrowser?

On YouTube I get the video part but absolutely no sound. I’ve also tried Yahoo!TV with the same result. I’ve visited several sites for Internet radio and I get no sound there either.
At this point, the only sound I am able to hear is when I play a music CD.

Are you using kde or gnome
On one of my Laptops (kde) I sometimes find I have to toggle the master channel between master and pcm and back again

Using KDE and my PC is a desktop.

Where exactly is this “pcm” setting?

On 2010-10-26 13:36, tb75252 wrote:

Notice that you are asking this in the hardware group, when your problem is software. The best
place, IMO, would be the multimedia group.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 11.2 x86_64 “Emerald” at Telcontar)

Right click the kmix in the sys tray and go to ‘Select Master Channel’

Also check with normal click > ‘Mixer’ and the volume sliders

Current mixer: set to HDA Creative
I tried picking one of the seven channels shown (Headphone, PCM, Front, etc.) but still no sound.
All volume sliders are set to 100%.
My guess is that there is some driver for streaming music that is missing…

My guess is that there is some driver for streaming music that is missing…
No.

It will be something to do with the settings (Coupled with this IIRC very troublesome audio card)

Can you do the following:

(1) go to YaST > Hardware > Sound [do a screen print and upload the image of the YaST window to ImageBam - Fast, Free Image Hosting and Photo Sharing and provide us a link to the image]

(2) go to KMENU > Configure Desktop > Multimedia and with device preferences selected [do a screen print and upload the image of the multimedia window to ImageBam - Fast, Free Image Hosting and Photo Sharing and provide us a link to the image]

(3) go to KMENU > Configure Desktop > Multimedia > Backend and advise what you have selected for Backend ?

(4) if you have xine selected for backend, please provide output of running in a terminal:

rpm -qa '*xine*' 

(5) so we can get a better look at your rpms installed to get your sound driver functional (ie to get sound working) please provide output of:

rpm -qa '*alsa*'
rpm -q libasound2
uname -a 

(6) so we can get a better look at your mixer and other settings please provide output URL/web-address that is given by running:

/usr/sbin/alsa-info.sh 

I’m hoping by providing all the above we might have an idea as to where the problem may be.

Try this in the KDE / Configure Desktop “Multimedia”-settings mentioned by oldcpu: in the “Phonon”-subsection, look for the device-priority for each section (messages, music, video etc.) and give your soundcard the primary priority.

Here we go:

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  4. libxine1-pulse-1.1.19-1.pm.44.4.x86_64
    libxine1-32bit-1.1.19-1.pm.44.4.x86_64
    libxine1-1.1.19-1.pm.44.4.x86_64
    phonon-backend-xine-4.4.2-1.6.x86_64
    libxine1-gnome-vfs-1.1.19-1.pm.44.4.x86_64
    xine-ui-32bit-0.99.5-228.2.x86_64
    libxine1-codecs-1.1.19-1.pm.44.4.x86_64
    kdebase4-runtime-xine-4.4.4-3.1.2.x86_64
    xine-ui-0.99.6-1.pm.3.2.x86_64
    libxine-devel-1.1.19-1.pm.44.4.x86_64
    xinetd-2.3.14-149.1.x86_64

5 a) alsa-utils-1.0.23-1.8.x86_64
alsa-devel-1.0.23-2.12.x86_64
alsa-oss-1.0.17-29.2.x86_64
alsa-plugins-1.0.23-1.9.x86_64
alsa-oss-32bit-1.0.17-29.2.x86_64
alsa-1.0.23-2.12.x86_64
alsa-plugins-32bit-1.0.23-1.9.x86_64
alsa-plugins-pulse-32bit-1.0.23-1.9.x86_64
alsa-driver-kmp-desktop-1.0.23.20101026_k2.6.34.7_0.4-1.1.x86_64
alsa-driver-unstable-kmp-desktop-1.0.23.20100906_k2.6.34.7_0.4-63.1.x86_64
alsa-plugins-pulse-1.0.23-1.9.x86_64

5b) libasound2-1.0.23-2.12.x86_64

5c) Linux windows-22587 2.6.34.7-0.4-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT 2010-10-07 19:07:51 +0200 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

  1. See http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=f05d55230d932e81bb9604b96607d967a55d76fa

HDA Creative (CA0110 Analog) has the priority for all Devices listed under both Audio Output and Audio Capture sections. Since my audio card is a Creative Labs Sound Blaster X-Fi Xtreme Audio (PCIe), it would appear that the ranking is correct.

Under Audio Output, the priorities are listed in this order:

  • HDA Creative (CA0110 Analog)
  • HDAATI HDMI, HDMI 0 (HDMI Audio Output)

Under Audio Caputre, the priorities are listed in this order:

  • HDA Creative (CA0110 Analog)
  • HDA Creative (CA0110 Digital)

You have a number of problems on your PCs audio. While I agree the order of devices in Kmenu > Configure Desktop in Multimedia is correct
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, the order of devices in YaST > Hardware > Sound appears to be wrong:
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YaST has the HDMI on your graphic card configured as the primary sound device.

IMHO you should go to YaST > Hardware > Sound > Other and switch the order of your sound devices. Then test.

You also have another problem and I will post on that in a subsequent post.

IF the suggestion to change the order of sound devices in the post above did not work, please follow the guidance in this post to fix another problem with your configuration:

Note the colours above. The red application alsa-driver-unstable-kmp-desktop should not be installed.

The problem is if you just remove it now, it may also remove libraries that that were installed with the green rpm alsa-driver-kmp-desktop which will break your sound.

So what you need to do to remove the ‘red’ application’ is to remove BOTH alsa-driver-kmp-desktop and alsa-driver-unstable-kmp-desktop. After those are both successfully removed, then re-install alsa-driver-kmp-desktop. Reboot and test.

But thats not all, … take a look at the applications marked in orange above. Those are all older versions and they may not work consistently with the alsa-driver-kmp-desktop. Hence if your sound situation does not improve after the removal of alsa-driver-unstable-kmp-desktop, then you should update those, using the updated versions from this repository: Index of /repositories/multimedia:/libs/openSUSE_11.3 Being careful to update properly and not be confused by a YaST message saying you have already updated from that repository because you have NOT updated from that repository.

After updating those reboot and test your sound.

There is guidance here for that (albeit that wiki page is out of date and not consistent with the most recent kernel ) : SDB:Alsa-update - openSUSE

The diagnostic script confirms the wrong order of sound devices:
!!Soundcards recognised by ALSA
!!-----------------------------

0 [HDMI ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI
HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfb9ec000 irq 35
1 [Creative ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Creative
HDA Creative at 0xfbafc000 irq 16

I believe that I executed everything you suggested; it appears to me that some ALSA drivers were updated while others were removed. Unfortunately, I still do not have audio when visiting Internet radio sites, YouTube, Yahoo!TV, etc. The problem to me appears to be that the streaming of bits does not occur. For instance, when using AccuRadio | Internet Radio You Control and selecting the Classical channel, another window pops up and in one box the word “Playing —:—” shows up where “—:—” should be showing the length in minutes and seconds of the song. (See screen capture No. 7 below.)

I am enclosing updated screen captures and pasted information for your easy reference.

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libxine1-pulse-1.1.19-1.pm.44.4.x86_64
libxine1-32bit-1.1.19-1.pm.44.4.x86_64
libxine1-1.1.19-1.pm.44.4.x86_64
phonon-backend-xine-4.4.2-1.6.x86_64
libxine1-gnome-vfs-1.1.19-1.pm.44.4.x86_64
xine-ui-32bit-0.99.5-228.2.x86_64
libxine1-codecs-1.1.19-1.pm.44.4.x86_64
kdebase4-runtime-xine-4.4.4-3.1.2.x86_64
xine-ui-0.99.6-1.pm.3.2.x86_64
libxine-devel-1.1.19-1.pm.44.4.x86_64
xinetd-2.3.14-149.1.x86_64

5a)
alsa-utils-1.0.23-1.8.x86_64
alsa-1.0.23-73.1.x86_64
alsa-devel-1.0.23-2.12.x86_64
alsa-oss-1.0.17-29.2.x86_64
alsa-plugins-1.0.23-1.9.x86_64
alsa-oss-32bit-1.0.17-29.2.x86_64
alsa-plugins-32bit-1.0.23-1.9.x86_64
alsa-driver-kmp-desktop-1.0.23.20101028_k2.6.34.7_0.5-1.1.x86_64
alsa-plugins-pulse-32bit-1.0.23-1.9.x86_64
alsa-plugins-pulse-1.0.23-1.9.x86_64

5b)
libasound2-1.0.23-2.12.x86_64

5c)
Linux windows-22587 2.6.34.7-0.5-desktop #1 SMP PREEMPT 2010-10-25 08:40:12 +0200 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

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It appears you failed to follow the very 1st (and most important) recommendation that I gave, which was to change the order of your sound device in YaST. I note this from the script:

!!Soundcards recognised by ALSA
!!-----------------------------

** 0 [HDMI ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI
HDA ATI HDMI at 0xfb9ec000 irq 35**
1 [Creative ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Creative
HDA Creative at 0xfbafc000 irq 16
Fire fox will try to play sound through sound device 0, … ergo … you will hear no sound in firefox.

So please follow the recommendation I gave, which is to go to YaST > Hardware > Sound and change the order of the sound devices !