Cannot install 11.3 from USB flash drive

Was anybody successful in installation from a memory stick? I couldn’t, I get a message at some stage of installation that repository was not found. A suggestion dialog comes up, but the installation (live) disk (the USB flash drive) is not listed there.

I follow the instructions on
SDB:Live USB stick - openSUSE
where there is a part on installation using a DVD image.

You could also check out this Howto.

I tried both instructions, none worked. The difference between your instructions and opensuse’s documentation is that you say to add
CD-ROM=hd(1,0) as a boot option at installation. Is this correct?

I get the following message:

Unable to create repository from URL ‘hd://?device=/dev/sde1’
Details: Empty destination URI:
hd:///?device=/dev/sde1

Unfortunately it’s not my Howto. I just made you aware of it. I guess it is correct for a DVD source, otherwise I can’t think why the author would have included it.

In a Howto thread, you can post follow up questions about the howto, but do not ask for help with new problems there. Authors normally look out for those questions, whereas he may not see this help thread.

Thanks.

I edited the howto at

SDB:Live USB stick - openSUSE

adding that the howto does not work for opensuse 11.3 DVD images.

Where is the place to post follow up questions about the howto? I see two places in this Forum, but they are read-only.

It’s in the Unreviewed Howto & FAQ forum, but as you are logged in you can just use the link I gave you and it will take you there. Just add your post at the end of that thread.

Just seen that the Howto author now agrees with your failed attempt. He has now posted that the DVD method doesn’t work for 11.3, and explained what went wrong with his testing.

the best way is to copy the .iso to a linux partition on a usb stick (or any partition except fat32 on your hdd) and then use the net.iso to do a hard drive install.
If you have a working linux system you want to upgrade, try this:
Stop Wasting CDs; Install Linux Straight from an ISO – LINUX For You Magazine

I want to upgrade the install on my netbook and ran into the same problems. Since I have downloaded the dvd, I don’t fancy using a live image and installing because it just downloads everything again.

Oh my god, This is such a fail… Nobody tested a single USB/SD install at all before release?

Does anyone know why it fails and if there is an easier workaround.
I’ve booted the Live install instead, but i have no way of getting the .ISO on there at the same time… Grrrrrr.

On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 23:16:02 +0000, whych wrote:

> the best way is to copy the .iso to a linux partition on a usb stick
> (or any partition except fat32 on your hdd) and then use the net.iso to
> do a hard drive install.
> If you have a working linux system you want to upgrade, try this: ‘Stop
> Wasting CDs; Install Linux Straight from an ISO – LINUX For You
> Magazine’ (http://tinyurl.com/yeh5k5z)
>
> I want to upgrade the install on my netbook and ran into the same
> problems. Since I have downloaded the dvd, I don’t fancy using a live
> image and installing because it just downloads everything again.

That worked for me once I disconnected the network card - if the NIC was
connected, it started downloading the install images from the 'net.

Good tip!

Jim


Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 03:06:02 +0000, Freakish wrote:

> Oh my god, This is such a fail… Nobody tested a single USB/SD install
> at all before release?
>
> Does anyone know why it fails and if there is an easier workaround. I’ve
> booted the Live install instead, but i have no way of getting the .ISO
> on there at the same time… Grrrrrr.

Install from the live media and then copy the ISO contents into the local
hard drive.

Or use fdisk (as I did) and follow whych’s suggestion. I did that myself
and with the caveat that I had to disconnect the NIC so the installer
didn’t try to install over the network, I was able to select “local hard
drive installation” and install from my flash drive.

The liveCD image did actually work on the flash drive as well - and on
first boot, it partitioned the device with a storage area for persistent
settings and file storage - I consider that a huge WIN.

Jim


Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Administrator

I install in this fashion usually from my USB hard drive:

  1. Extract the initrd and linux(the kernel) files from the DVD ISO present under /boot/<ARCH>/loader to some location on your hard drive (not the USB one - but your primary booting hard drive)
  2. Have a working GRUB either on a NTFS (using GRUB4DOS) or some other linux partition.
  3. Add the following entry details into the menu.lst file - change (hd0,1) to the according hard disk drive number as per GRUB numbering and the absolute path of the kernel and initrd depending on where you placed them
title Install OpenSuse 11.3 x86_64
kernel (hd0,1)/boot/opensuse/11_3/linux
initrd (hd0,1)/boot/opensuse/11_3/initrd
  1. Now reboot your machine, with the USB hard drive connected(make sure the ISO is on some ext3/4 partition on the USB HDD - since NTFS didn’t work for me some time back during 11.1) and choose this newly added entry.
  2. A text based setup should startup and tell you an error saying misssing installation DVD-ROM.
  3. Just give Cancel, go back and choose start setup.
  4. After 2 or 3 screens you would be asked for choosing the location of the setup files - choose hard disk and give the absolute path of the ISO image file
  5. The GUI based setup should start up now

Thanks for the suggestions.

I have a 10’1" Tablet, No ethernet port at all and no WiFi in Suse out of the box… And the KDE Live install is refusing me access to my NTFS drives which have the full DVD.iso, so it’s just far more effort than it should be. So just getting the full DVD available from within the Live boot, is virtually impossible so far.

I’m currently downloading the Gnome Live for SD, and i will see if i have more luck.

On distrowatch.com, opensuse now has rank 4 and sometimes lower, after Ubuntu, Fedora, and even Mint. I remember times when opensuse was stable second after Fedora (Red Hat).

And we have a similar issue with the nvidia driver - nobody bothered to install the popular nvidia driver for the very popular nvidia graphic cards. Was not so in previous versions. Now the issue is very difficult to resolve for a not experienced person.

Who is next to push opensuse even lower? For a reason?

@hendersj

Or use fdisk (as I did) and follow whych’s suggestion. I did that myself
and with the caveat that I had to disconnect the NIC so the installer
didn’t try to install over the network, I was able to select “local hard
drive installation” and install from my flash drive.

Does this mean that the live iso will also allow a hdd install if there is no network connected? … Or did you use the net.iso?
The net.iso boot menu should give an ‘install from’ option (F4 I think) where you should be able to choose the medium.

Another way that worked in the past for those dual booting from windows is to dd copy the dvd image to a usb drive and then run the openSUSE11.3-local.exe in windows. This add a suse hdd install option to the windows boot menu.

@Freakish
Rather try using the net.iso rather than the live images. It’s a smaller download and will work.
Otherwise, since it seems you already have windows, just extract the dvd.iso to a directory on the ntfs partitition (keep it simple like, say, suse).
Now run the opensuse11.3 network executable.
This will add a boot menu for the install to the windows bootloader.

As it appears, after mounting the ISO image, there is no file menu.lst neither in /boot/grub/ nor anywhere else in the mounted directory.

The file is not even hidden in the installation images which are tar.xz files. Perhaps it is created during installation?

Lack of the file prohibits usage of the instructions.

@ZStefan
I know, I only just discovered this when I tried just now.
It works with most other distros but not the latest 11.3. (I know, I have used it to install SLES to a server without dvd drive that won’t boot from usb, as well as some other distros.)
I haven’t tried, but I suspect a modification something like the article mentions for fedora is needed for 11.3 too.

Easiest for me was:
Extract the dvd.iso to hdd or ext3 formatted usb.
Add an install option to the grub menu’lst using the image locations on the ext3 usb stick like so:

title Boot openSUSE 11.3 install
root (hdx,y)
kernel /boot/i386/loader/linux
initrd /boot/i386/loader/initrd

It will give a few errors on boot, but go back from the error till you get the text based gtk menu options and choose to install from hdd.
When it asks for the repo add a / to the box.
The rest of the install will go fine.

Having re-read you post:
The menu.lst file is on your locally running linux installation - you are looking at instructions for booting and installing from linux.

Has somebody who has tried
1.1) to install/copy a openSUSE 11.3 DVD iso image
to a USB flash drive
in order to install openSUSE 11.3 to a computer from a USB drive
or
1.2) in order to make a live USB stick with openSUSE 11.3 on it

  1. and failed or had severe problems with that issues

  2. already filed a bug report to bugzilla?

I have not tried jet 1.1 or 1.2
(especially because I gave back the U3 usb flash drive after I read in the web that that U3 is - to say it in a very polite way- not just an package of software you can delete easily).

But I think this is a very severe issue:

a) according to Product highlights of open SUSE 11.3

aa) the Netbook Support is the first listed (first and foremost?) of the “Top Features” of openSUSE 11.3
and that netbook support
includes the 2 new graphical environments/special interfaces (Plasma Netbook Workspace from the KDE team and MeeGo on openSUSE - Code named Smeegol - from the openSUSE Goblin team) especially for netbooks

ab) the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment (LXDE) is also one of the “Top Features” of openSUSE 11.3 (according to the openSUSE wiki highlights-article and the press - Heise online). In my thoughts the LXDE with low needs on hardware and as a “energy saving desktop environment” will also make sense especially on a netbook.

b) there are also the strategy issues
ba) Mobile and cloud read distribution strategy proposal
bb) Base for derivatives strategy proposal including “openSUSE as a base for MeeGo, OpenWRT and other projects” and “desktop spin-offs for users (KDE, GNOME, LXDE, Xfce)”

c) the features under a) will not make much sense if the consumer/user fails in the step before using - in the installing

d) I do not know if many potential users/consumers will
da) have the patience
daa) to download a Gnome/KDE/net CD iso image,
dab) install/transfer that image to a USB flash device (without a existing graphical tool for that - if I have understood the openFATE thread on the KIWI imagewriter https://features.opensuse.org/308352 right ),
dac) install a normal GNOME/KDE (or are the three new graphical environments are included on a Gnome/KDE/net CD)
dad) install the additional packages for one of those graphical environments
dae) switch to one of those 3 netbook connected graphical environments/interfaces

db)** after trying**
dba) to download a openSUSE 11.3 DVD iso image,
dbb) install/transfer that image to a USB flash device

  • without a existing graphical tool for that - if I have understood the openFATE thread #308352: Easy Way to put Media to USB Stick](https://features.opensuse.org/308352) (that may lead in the future to a use of the KIWI imagewriter?) ,
    dac) install a one of those 3 netbook connected graphical environments/interfaces directly from the DVD image on the live USB stick
    dad) use/switch to one of those 3 netbook connected graphical environments/interfaces in the log in prompt/in the KDE settings

dc) and failing on step dcb).

I am in doubt about that (d)).

Greetings
pistazienfresser