I have installed Open Suse 11.3, after giving up on Ubuntu when the latest version would not connect to the internet. In Ubuntu I could always open a terminal to carry out any command line task. In Suse I simply cannot even find one. Where is it please?
I need to find a terminal that I can run in Root in order to load some firmware for a different network adapter, as I am currently using one borrowed from another computer.
If you are on kde press [alt][F2] and type konsole, if you are on gnome do
the same and type gnome-terminal.
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openSUSE 11.2 64 bit | Intel Core2 Quad Q8300@2.50GHz | Gnome 2.28 | GeForce
9600 GT | 4GB Ram
openSUSE 11.3 64 bit | Intel Core2 Duo T9300@2.50GHz | Gnome 2.30 | Quadro
FX 3600M | 4GB Ram
Martin Helm wrote:
> If you are on kde press [alt][F2] and type konsole, if you are on gnome do
> the same and type gnome-terminal.
or, go to the main menu (usually in lower left corner) click System >
Terminal and there will probably be SEVERAL to choose from…
but BEWARE because Ubuntu and openSUSE are not the same…in *buntu
you used sudo a lot…sudo here works some different (not how, because
i’ve never used the brown)
use “su -” to become root in the terminal…
BUT!! caution, i don’t know what kind of “firmware” you are loading or
how to do that in a terminal (i’ve never done such in Linux)…do you
mean ‘driver’? have you visited our networking forums (and searched
maybe) on the network adapter you need to load firmware for?
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DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD [posted via NNTP w/openSUSE 10.3]
Or the easiest may be click the green lizard and type “terminal” at the top in the search box. Now that I think about it alt + F2 is easier haha
It will list about 5 different ones. My fave is konsole. :O)
Thank you. I have found the file I need, from the instructions on this web page http://en.opensuse.org/HCL:Network_(Wireless) where the last item reads:
Netgear WG511 v1.0 PCMCIA Download the firmware from www.prism54.org and change the name of the file to isl3886
I have downloaded the file and changed its name, but am completely puzzled as to what to do to install it. It needs to be done as root, which I assumed means that it needs to be done in a terminal.
I have however just discovered that my PCMCIA card is WG511 version 2, and not version 1, so I might be on a loser anyway! (it may have a different chipset).
you say you are running 11.3, but the instructions you are trying to
follow is for 11.1 (apparently ONLY), and i wouldn’t have a clue how
to ‘install’ that ‘firmware’ even if i thought it would work…
so, i highly recommend you get to some more recent info…remember,
this is FAST moving Linux…lots and lots of stuff has happened since
11.1 came out almost TWO years ago…
if it were me, i’d STOP all work related to that path and instead go
to one of the networking forums…i can’t tell if you are using
wireless or not, but i GUESS you are, and if so i’d take a good long
detailed look at all three stickies at the top of this forum:
http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-help-here/wireless/
which i guess will get you going…if not, be sure to follow the
instructions on how and what to post for help, and do that to the
wireless forum…
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DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD [posted via NNTP w/openSUSE 10.3]
I thought I would try the “hwinfo --wlan” or “lspci --vnn” commands to try and identify the chipset, but cannot find any way to get Gnome Terminal to run as root or any command to run as root, all I ever get is “command not found” messages. Gnome Terminal appears to be the only one I have, does konsole only belong to the KDE desktop?
Thank you DenverD, I had been going through that, but am none the wiser as to how to get Gnome Terminal to run as root, or accept a command as root. I have given up on the downloaded file and deleted it, now I am just trying to identify the chipset in the PCMCIA card, but even the commands to do that need to run as root.
Norman E wrote:
> I thought I would try the “hwinfo --wlan” or “lspci --vnn” commands to
> try and identify the chipset, but cannot find any way to get Gnome
> Terminal to run as root or any command to run as root, all I ever get is
> “command not found” messages. Gnome Terminal appears to be the only one
> I have, does konsole only belong to the KDE desktop?
>
>
did you read what i wrote?
if you wish to do it your way!:
to run any commmand in any openSUSE terminal (Gnome or otherwise) as
super user/root just type and enter this:
su -
and, give the root password when asked…
then, when done with that terminal with root powers type and enter
exit
MUCH more on root in openSUSE here:
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Login_as_root
but, remember that i FIRST recommend you NOT continue trying to do
something with that firmware, which may or may not work with 11.3
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DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD [posted via NNTP w/openSUSE 10.3]
I managed to get it to work when I tried the sudo command (for induvidual commands), but not with su! I have now looked at the results from those commands, and concluded that the only likely way to get this particular card working is to use ndiswrapper. The card is identified as:
02:00.0 Ethernet Controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88w8335 [Libertas] 802.11b/g Wireless (rev 03)
and
02:00.0 11ab : 1faa (rev 03)
As I said, I have already deleted the firmware file, which was for version 1 of the card.
A hunt round the network forum, and the Novell web pages shows no Linux drivers for it.
I thought I had already posted that I had deleted the firmware file, but looking above I see that I had not done so!
I can connect using a Belkin USB adapter, but it is vulnerable so I would rather get the PCMCIA card to work.
Norman E wrote:
> I managed to get it to work when I tried the sudo command (for
> induvidual commands), but not with su!
did you use “su” or “su -” as i wrote? they are different…if you su
you have root powers but with a USER environment…
in openSUSE (different from some [many?] other distros is that not all
executables ‘live’ in a directory which either sudo or
root-with-user-environment have access too…like, read more here:
http://tinyurl.com/ydbwssh
where you will find a LONG discussion in which even those who thought
they knew better had to finally decide to use “su -” instead of “su”
for (almost) all needs in openSUSE…
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DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD [posted via NNTP w/openSUSE 10.3]
I think I used “su -” but cannot now be absolutely certain, I had actually done it just before I read that post
What actually worked to enable me to get a result definitely started with “sudo”.
I just tried it again but cannot remember what I typed. I tried “sudo /usr/sbin/hwinfo --wlan” and that now gives me full chapter and verse on the currently connected Belkin USB wireless LAN card, which is working. I think I will just stick with that and give up on the Netgear PCMCIA card.
I may have had the syntax wrong when I tried "su - " because an attempt just now returned “su: invalid option – ‘h’ Try ‘su --help’ for more information.” which is what happened first time round.
Norman E wrote:
> I may have had the syntax wrong when I tried "su - " because an attempt
> just now returned “su: invalid option – ‘h’ Try ‘su --help’ for more
> information.” which is what happened first time round.
hint: type more carefully, then look at the screen and proof read what
you typed BEFORE hitting enter…i say that because the error above
su: invalid option -- 'h'
indicates you didn’t type
su -
but instead typed
su -h
which i just duplicated here, and copy paste from my screen:
d@linux:~> su -h
su: invalid option -- h
Try `su --help' for more information.
d@linux:~>
computers are STUPID, they are not smart enough to know what you
intended to type.
OR maybe you are having keyboard problems?
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DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD [posted via NNTP w/openSUSE 10.3]
The “h” was the beginning of “hwinfo --wlan”, so should I have put in another space after “su -” , a forward slash, or what?
Its all pretty acedemic now, as I am sticking with the Belkin USB adapter after finding a very short USB cable to use it with.
Norman E wrote:
> The “h” was the beginning of “hwinfo --wlan”, so should I have put in
> another space after “su -”
ah! no, unlike sudo which can be followed immediately by another
command, if you want to su and have root environment you have to use
two steps, like this:
su - <press enter, give the root password, THEN,
hwinfo --wlan
or, if you don’t need root environment
su <press enter, give the root password, THEN,
hwinfo --wlan
or, without root environment in one line
su -c "hwinfo --wlan"
the “-c” switch telling bash a command follows
all this and more is available in the built in manual and info…in a
terminal type
man su
<or>
info su
press the up/down arrow to scroll or q to quit…
Have a lot of fun!
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DenverD
CAVEAT: http://is.gd/bpoMD [posted via NNTP w/openSUSE 10.3]