Hi.I’ve resurrected an old Dell D505 lappy with OpenSuse on it. It has a Netgear PCMCIA wireless card and a wired network port. The system can see both fine. I’m currently on the wireless. I can access the internet, in fact, I’m typing this from the lappy now. I can successfully ping any internet address. The problem is, I cannot ping or connect to anything on the local network.The local ip is 192.168.1.110, gateway is 192.168.1.1, DNS is 8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4, all set by DHCP. I try to ping any addy on the 192.168.1 network, including the gateway, and I get destination host unreachable.Some info I’ve see requested on other help posts:
yuuri:/etc # ip addr1: lo: mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 inet 127.0.0.1/8 brd 127.255.255.255 scope host lo inet 127.0.0.2/8 brd 127.255.255.255 scope host secondary lo2: eth0: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN qlen 1000 link/ether 00:0f:1f:bf:13:55 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 192.168.1.4/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global eth03: wmaster0: mtu 0 qdisc pfifo_fast state UNKNOWN qlen 1000 link/ieee802.11 00:1b:2f:6b:38:0f brd 00:00:00:00:00:004: wlan0: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000 link/ether 00:1b:2f:6b:38:0f brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 192.168.1.110/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global wlan0yuuri:/etc # ip route192.168.1.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.1.4192.168.1.0/24 dev wlan0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.1.110169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link127.0.0.0/8 dev lo scope linkdefault via 192.168.1.1 dev wlan0yuuri:/etc #
Not sure what to check next.Cheers,btps, the formatting on the site appears to be broken. When I previewed the post the first time, it wiped out all my formatting. I re-formatted it, and it kept some of the line breaks and wiped out the rest. I really don’t have time to go through it and try again.
On 07/21/2012 03:36 PM, btbt wrote:
>
> Hi.I’ve resurrected an old Dell D505 lappy with OpenSuse on it. It has a
> Netgear PCMCIA wireless card and a wired network port. The system can
> see both fine. I’m currently on the wireless. I can access the internet,
> in fact, I’m typing this from the lappy now. I can successfully ping any
> internet address. The problem is, I cannot ping or connect to anything
> on the local network.The local ip is 192.168.1.110, gateway is
> 192.168.1.1, DNS is 8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4, all set by DHCP. I try to ping
> any addy on the 192.168.1 network, including the gateway, and I get
> destination host unreachable.Some info I’ve see requested on other help
> posts:
> Code:
> --------------------
> yuuri:/etc # ip addr1: lo: mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00 inet 127.0.0.1/8 brd 127.255.255.255 scope host lo inet 127.0.0.2/8 brd 127.255.255.255 scope host secondary lo2: eth0: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN qlen 1000 link/ether 00:0f:1f:bf:13:55 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 192.168.1.4/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global eth03: wmaster0: mtu 0 qdisc pfifo_fast state UNKNOWN qlen 1000 link/ieee802.11 00:1b:2f:6b:38:0f brd 00:00:00:00:00:004: wlan0: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000 link/ether 00:1b:2f:6b:38:0f brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff inet 192.168.1.110/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global wlan0yuuri:/etc # ip route192.168.1.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.1.4192.168.1.0/24 dev wlan0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.1.110169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link127.0.0.0/8 dev lo scope linkdefault via 192.168.1.1 dev wlan0yuuri:/etc #
> --------------------
> Not sure what to check next.Cheers,btps, the formatting on the site
> appears to be broken. When I previewed the post the first time, it wiped
> out all my formatting. I re-formatted it, and it kept some of the line
> breaks and wiped out the rest. I really don’t have time to go through it
> and try again.
If you are using NNTP, then put all computer code inside
....
tags. If you are using the Web interface, then use the Advanced editing tab,
create the tags, and then post the code.
Sorry, I don’t have the time to go through that jumble to figure out what is
happening. (That sounds pretty arrogant doesn’t it? How do you think yours sounds?)
Not arrogant, frustration that a simple web interface wipes out my nice formatting. I re-formatted twice, and both times the the formatting got wiped. And yes, I did use the code tag. I’m not going to keep trying to format text for hours hoping the web interface finally gets it right.
I post my questions about a bug in the system (could be my fault, I may have missed something) then a frustration about a broken web interface, and some “guru” jumps my case and call me arrogant?
I strongly recommend that you give the formatting another go, in the interests of others being able to easily read it. It appears to be a simple routing issue. Are you trying to use two network interfaces simultaneously? No, problem with that, but they can’t share the same subnet.
> Not sure what to check next.Cheers,btps, the formatting on the site
> appears to be broken. When I previewed the post the first time, it wiped
> out all my formatting. I re-formatted it, and it kept some of the line
> breaks and wiped out the rest. I really don’t have time to go through it
> and try again.
Try to post the output of “route” inside code tags.
I don’t use the web forum, so I can not help you with the formatting; but if the result is not
readable it might make impossible for us to help you. I certainly have no idea of what it is
you posted. I’m just a user like you.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
On 07/21/2012 04:26 PM, btbt wrote:
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> I post my questions about a bug in the system (could be my fault, I may
> have missed something) then a frustration about a broken web interface,
> and some “guru” jumps my case and call me arrogant? This is where Linux
> folks get their rep from.
The arrogant part is that you come across as “your time is too important to
learn how to use the tools”. Hundreds or thousands of people before have
mastered that technique without any problem. Instead, you think so little of
your audience that you tell them to try and straighten out the mess you created.
The below is the gist of the original post. I do have a wired and wireless installed, the wired is disconnected.
As an aside to the formatting issue, using OpenSuse, KDE, Konqeror the formatting is bunged, using Win7, and Opera, formatting is good.
Cheers,
bt
I can access the internet, in fact, I’m typing this from the lappy now. I can successfully ping any internet address. The problem is, I cannot ping or connect to anything on the local network.
The local ip is 192.168.1.110, gateway is 192.168.1.1, DNS is 8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4, all set by DHCP.
I try to ping any addy on the 192.168.1 network, including the gateway, and I get destination host unreachable.
Some info I’ve see requested on other help posts:
yuuri:/etc # ip addr
1: lo: mtu 16436 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
inet 127.0.0.1/8 brd 127.255.255.255 scope host lo
inet 127.0.0.2/8 brd 127.255.255.255 scope host secondary lo
2: eth0: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN qlen 1000
link/ether 00:0f:1f:bf:13:55 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 192.168.1.4/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global eth0
3: wmaster0: mtu 0 qdisc pfifo_fast state UNKNOWN qlen 1000
link/ieee802.11 00:1b:2f:6b:38:0f brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
4: wlan0: mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state UP qlen 1000
link/ether 00:1b:2f:6b:38:0f brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
inet 192.168.1.110/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global wlan0
yuuri:/etc # ip route
192.168.1.0/24 dev eth0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.1.4
192.168.1.0/24 dev wlan0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.1.110
169.254.0.0/16 dev eth0 scope link127.0.0.0/8 dev lo scope link
default via 192.168.1.1 dev wlan0
yuuri:/etc #
lwfinger, reading comprehension is your friend. I stated that I DID use the codes, and the web interface borked it up. I also stated I tried several times. This isn’t my first bbs. After trying several times, I gave up.
If you can’t ping the gateway, then perhaps the router is configured to block Ping (ICMP Echo) requests? Do you have another machine available to connect with the LAN and to try and ping with?
This is what befuddles me so much. On the local net (192.168.1.0), I have 2 windows 7 box, 1 Gentoo file/web server, 1 Debian workstation, 1 Freenas fileserver, and an Arch HTPC. They all can ping/talk to each other. The gateway/router/firewall is a PFSense box. The only firewall that’s turned on is on the gateway.
I’m fairly certain I’ve missed something, just not sure what. I’m going to look at again in the morning (maybe later tonight, if the young’uns cooperate), hopefully a fresh head will help.
> As an aside to the formatting issue, using OpenSuse, KDE, Konqeror the
> formatting is bunged, using Win7, and Opera, formatting is good.
You can ask about that in the forum.support-information forum.
> I try to ping any addy on the 192.168.1 network, including the gateway,
> and I get destination host unreachable.
>
> Some info I’ve see requested on other help posts:
Try traceroute to local hosts, and to the router.
That your ethernet has got an address while it is not connected might be an issue.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
Are all the other devices attached via wired ethernet interface? I don’t have experience with pfSense, but this is looking like a firewall configuration issue. Not to confuse you further, but just to put you on the right path…this query reads very similar to your issue Enable ping to pass through pfSense - Server Fault
I do not know what you do wrong here. But as said, you seem to be the only one who can not get this right after being told to read the howto guide (link is given to you two times). Maybe you do not realy copy/paste your computer text from the terminal emulation window (like konsole) in between the CODE tags. In fact even adding the CODE tags by hand later before and after the copied/pasted part in the composer here works as expected.
Shut down, removed wireless adapter (PCMCIA card) and connected cable to wired adapter. I now have access to the local network, but no internet access.
After several shutdowns and interface swaps, there is consistency with:
Wired - local net, no internet.
Wireless - No local net, good internet.
Looks like it’s time for a reload.
Thanks to those who offered constructive comments.
Some routers have a privacy mode such that wireless clients can connect to the internet, but not to other LAN systems.
It looks as if your router is using such a privacy mode.
You might have to pore through the man pages for “route” and “ip”. But you should be able to configure your system to use the ethernet card for LAN destinations and the wireless card for internet destinations.
I don’t believe it’s the PFSense router, as several friends, plus my Win7 lappy conect to both the local network and the internet via wireless fine. But I will certainly check out the PFSense configs, I’m pretty new at that software.
Maybe I set a “Don’t let wireless Linux into the local net” flag by mistake.
Not being able to ping the gateway, yet being able to route through it (internet connectivity), is a sure sign of some kind of firewall configuration issue.
You might want to post your query on the pfsense.org forum:
I haven’t figured out what is wrong with the original installation, but I booted off a 12.1 (Original installation is 11.2) live CD, configured the wireless, and it works as expected. I can now access both the local network and the internet. I can now ping both local network IP’s, as well as internet IP’s.
