To update Kernel from addidtional repo, you have to add this repo in yast (just copy URL and enable it)
and then just type “zypper dup” command as superuser.
Newest Kernel will be automatically installed.
You can update applications using the same way - add LibreOffice, Banshee, Samba, Printing (CUPS etc), etc repos and do “zypper dup”. Everything will be updated to latest version.
It’s very easy, just be sure to use dedicated 11.4 repositories.
For example Index of /repositories/Banshee/11.4
contains newest Banshee 2.3.1 for 11.4
There are also repositories for system components (like pulseaudio, gcc, cups and many more). But make sure you have good backup if you want to mess with glibc or something like that.
so, are you sure “zypper dup” is what you intended to suggest?
> Newest Kernel will be automatically installed.
>
> You can update applications using the same way - add LibreOffice,
> Banshee, Samba, Printing (CUPS etc), etc repos and do “zypper dup”.
> Everything will be updated to latest version.
now wait a second, it was my understanding that you do all of that stuff
once you have the correct repos enabled and refreshed, and they did a
“zypper up”…
but, if you only want to flow in the security patches and major bug
fixes from the update repo you should use “zypper patch”…
or, maybe i misread man zypper…and, you would like to help me
understand why you are using distribution upgrade just to update
installed software ??
anyway, i wonder how you determined that the OP wants to be out on the
leading edge? did he say that somewhere and i missed it??
wouldn’t it be safer to assume the OP wanted stable and reliable until
declared otherwise??
The problem with zypper up it that it doesn’t change package repos automatically.
So if you want to upgrade something from other repository, it can ignore it unless you manually change repository in package management.
AFAIK if you are using Tumbleweed you should also use dup instead of up, to let system change packages repositories as needed.
Of course it is intended for upgrade whole distro, but it works ok for updating too. If ‘zypper up’ works for you then OK, but “dup” won’t make your computer explode either.
Let OP decide if he wants to have latest versions. He intends to use 11.4 which is quite outdated already, just because it features G2.
I’m just giving him advice how to make it a bit more fresh, what’s your problem with it?
Version: 11.2+The following applies to openSUSE starting from 11.2 release.
The package manager Zypp uses the vendor stickyness concept. This means that when you update your system, already installed packages will not be updated to a newer version, if the newer version is provided by a different vendor.
That’s why I told to use zypper dup instead of explaining all this stuff zypper dup will always update to newest available version regardless of the vendor/repo.
I wonder why ppl here are trying to tell me I’m wrong on every single occassion, while I’m just trying to help? :sarcastic:
why dup? why bleeding edge?.. why not?
On 02/22/2012 12:36 PM, sobrus wrote:
> I wonder why ppl here are trying to tell me I’m wrong on every single
> occassion, while I’m just trying to help?
harmful help is not helpful.
your advice may be correct for your machine, with your repos and your
needs, but it may not be something the OP wants to do.
that is, you have assumed the OP wishes to switch to newer versions from
different vendors.
and you didn’t ask the op if that was what is wanted!
so, that may or may not be what this user wants…and, secondly you
have not asked for and inspected the OP’s repo mix…for all you know
s/he has a dozen factory, playground, maintenance, experimental and
unstable repos–and, in such a case “zypper dup” could easily ruin the
entire system, beyond the ability to repair!
anyway, because “zypper dup” is different from “zypper up” one should not be substituted for the other willie-nillie assuming an unseen repo
setup is safe to do so…
now, what you do on your machine is up to you…but, please don’t advise
folks to use “zypper dup” until you have found out if they want the
latest AND have gone of their repos and system needs, and have advised
them of the potential dangers…
On 2012-02-22 12:16, sobrus wrote:
>
> The problem with zypper up it that it doesn’t change package repos. So
> if your Libreoffice comes from OSS, it won’t update it from other repo.
Which is good.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
> That’s why I told to use zypper dup instead of explaining all this
> stuff zypper dup will always update to newest available version
> regardless of the vendor/repo.
If you like to live dangerously, yes.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 11.4 x86_64 “Celadon” at Telcontar)
zypper dup will always update to newest available version regardless of the vendor/repo.
zypper dup will always update to newest available version