Hello.
I have a 16Go bootable usb stick with tools for windows XP.
This key boot as windows XP.
This key is functioning, but I could not found anymore the files I have made to construct this bootable usb stick.
Is there a way to make another bootable usb key ( 8 Gb ) from the first one.
Size are different.
Data are less than 2Gb
Any help is welcome.
On Thu, 06 Feb 2014 14:56:02 +0000, jcdole wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I have a 16Go bootable usb stick with tools for windows XP.
> This key boot as windows XP.
> This key is functioning, but I could not found anymore the files I have
> made to construct this bootable usb stick.
>
> Is there a way to make another bootable usb key ( 8 Gb ) from the first
> one.
>
> Size are different.
>
> Data are less than 2Gb
>
> Any help is welcome.
I doubt anyone here is going to be able to help you make a bootable
Windows USB stick, you might try the Microsoft forums.
Jim
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On 2014-02-06 15:56, jcdole wrote:
>
> Hello.
>
> I have a 16Go bootable usb stick with tools for windows XP.
> This key boot as windows XP.
> This key is functioning, but I could not found anymore the files I have
> made to construct this bootable usb stick.
>
> Is there a way to make another bootable usb key ( 8 Gb ) from the first
> one.
You mean you want to clone the stick.
I you want to recreate the stick, obviously I have to answer the same as
Jim.
> Size are different.
>
> Data are less than 2Gb
If the destination stick has at least the same number of sectors, or
more (never less), you can use dd:
dd if=/dev/sdX if=/dev/sdY
If the destination stick is smaller, you could try clonezilla. I don’t
know if it will boot, though.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))
Clonezilla will clone (or restore to) a partition of equal or greater size, as well, so I doubt it would work.
It is not a windows problem, and it is not a microsoft product.
The question is about copying a bootable usb key to another usb key and make the second bootable.
I have tried to use imagewriter but it refuse to copy the image from the key.
This question should be the same if I had a suse 9.3 on a 16Gb bootable usb stick that I want to copy to another 8 Gb usb stick that I want to be bootable.
dd is your best shot it will do a binary copy but the target must be the same or larger size as the source!!!
On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 17:56:01 +0000, jcdole wrote:
> It is not a windows problem, and it is not a microsoft product.
That was not clear to me from your initial post. You said “windows
tools” and “boot as windows XP” - so it sure sounds like you’re trying to
create a bootable Windows USB key. My apologies for not understanding
what you were saying - it just wasn’t clear to me.
Windows XP most certainly is a Microsoft product, though. So that adds
to the confusion about what you’re asking.
> The question is about copying a bootable usb key to another usb key and
> make the second bootable.
I would concur that using dd is your best option. Then use fdisk to make
sure the partition is flagged bootable (but it should be as it’ll be an
identical copy)
> I have tried to use imagewriter but it refuse to copy the image from the
> key.
Imagewriter also, as I recall, is a Windows program, hence now some
additional confusion about what you’re trying to do. It’s as if you’re
asking about how to copy a bootable Windows XP USB key to another using
Windows…?
> This question should be the same if I had a suse 9.3 on a 16Gb bootable
> usb stick that I want to copy to another 8 Gb usb stick that I want to
> be bootable.
Well, in that case, the answer is also still the same - use dd, because
it’ll do what you’re trying to do. That’s its purpose.
Jim Henderson
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On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 21:01:24 +0000, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> This question should be the same if I had a suse 9.3 on a 16Gb bootable
>> usb stick that I want to copy to another 8 Gb usb stick that I want to
>> be bootable.
>
> Well, in that case, the answer is also still the same - use dd, because
> it’ll do what you’re trying to do. That’s its purpose.
Except that the additional detail of going to a smaller device escaped
my notice as well.
Which means that you will need to probably reconstruct the Windows
partition on the drive the way you did the original (BartPE, perhaps?),
because dd won’t solve your problem if there is data past the end of the
first 8 GB of space - and the partition table will be hosed anyways.
Windows has some things that it requires IIRC regarding the placement of
certain files on the boot partition, and just copying the files won’t be
sufficient (as it would be with a bootable Linux USB drive).
Jim Henderson
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On 2014-02-07 06:06, Fraser Bell wrote:
>
> robin_listas;2622550 Wrote:
>>
>> If the destination stick is smaller, you could try clonezilla. I don’t
>> know if it will boot, though.
>>
>
> Clonezilla will clone (or restore to) a partition of equal or greater
> size, as well, so I doubt it would work.
It tries to emulate tools like “partition magic” or “ghost”. These
Windows tools could clone to a smaller destination if the source was not
full. Ie, it did not clone unused sectors. You could resize the
partition during the operation.
I’m just guessing that clonezilla might use similar tricks. I have not
tried myself.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))
On 2014-02-07 22:01, Jim Henderson wrote:
> Imagewriter also, as I recall, is a Windows program,
And Linux, too.
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))
On 2014-02-07 22:05, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 21:01:24 +0000, Jim Henderson wrote:
> Except that the additional detail of going to a smaller device escaped
> my notice as well.
There have been Windows tools to clone to a smaller disk or partition,
for decades. The trick is not to copy the empty or free sectors, and of
course, adjust the FAT tables accordingly.
Well, right, not that simple 
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Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))
Clonezilla actually says in the references that it can’t. There has been a note for quite some time that they hope to, in the future, but there has been no movement in that direction, yet. It uses dd, part-image, and ntfs-clone to do the work.
But, a person can go to the website of the HD manufacturer for their disk tools. Seagate and WD both supply a customized Acronis boot disk that will only work on a system with one of their own drives on it (Seagate’s Acronis will work going from or to a Seagate/Maxtor/etc. drive to any make, for example.).
Last I recall, Acronis will go to a smaller partition.
On 2014-02-07 23:06, Fraser Bell wrote:
>> I’m just guessing that clonezilla might use similar tricks. I have not
>> tried myself.
>>
>
> Clonezilla actually says in the references that it can’t. There has
> been a note for quite some time that they hope to, in the future, but
> there has been no movement in that direction, yet. It uses dd,
> part-image, and ntfs-clone to do the work.
Oh.
Pity.
Some partition types can be resized. gparted? Increase size, sure,
decrease, not sure. If it can decrease a FAT partition, maybe there
would be a way… but booting it is another matter.
Anyway… it is becoming difficult here to buy small USB sticks. I can’t
get them smaller than 8 GB (and I want them), and they are cheaper than
ever. A 16GB stick is not expensive nowdays.
> But, a person can go to the website of the HD manufacturer for their
> disk tools. Seagate and WD both supply a customized Acronis boot disk
> that will only work on a system with one of their own drives on it
> (Seagate’s Acronis will work going from or to a Seagate/Maxtor/etc.
> drive to any make, for example.).
>
> Last I recall, Acronis will go to a smaller partition.
Good to know, thanks.
–
Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
(from 13.1 x86_64 “Bottle” (Minas Tirith))
On Fri, 07 Feb 2014 21:24:16 +0000, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2014-02-07 22:01, Jim Henderson wrote:
>
>> Imagewriter also, as I recall, is a Windows program,
>
> And Linux, too.
I noticed that a little later this evening.
Jim
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Have retry dd with second usb stick with same size as master stick.
dd if=/dev/sdc if=/dev/sdd
It works.
As I have achieve my goal by getting a second workable stick, this thread is solved.
Thank you every body for your helps and taking times to answer me.
On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 15:36:01 +0000, jcdole wrote:
> Have retry dd with second usb stick with same size as master stick.
>
> Code:
> --------------------
> dd if=/dev/sdc if=/dev/sdd
> --------------------
>
> It works.
> As I have achieve my goal by getting a second workable stick, this
> thread is solved.
>
> Thank you every body for your helps and taking times to answer me.
Glad to hear you found a solution.
Jim
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