Boot up and Shutdown issue and one more...

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Hi,

I got upgraded to 12.1 with KDE 4.7 from 11.4 with KDE 4.6. Using a dell vostro 1500 laptop.

I have three issues with the new system.

  1. BootSplash : disabled for 1024x768
    : disabled for 1280x800 (I don’t think this is of much use t0 me because my system boots up with 1024x768… would be happy to get both fixed however)

  2. System does not shutdown. The bootsplash doesn’t work anyway. So in the terminal it shows “System halted” and then I have to hold down the power key to switch off my system.

  3. The desktop gets frozen at times… hope I can fix this with an update. Not able to do it because adding repositories fails on my computer always… slow internet connection may be the cause.

Thanks for any help

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First try, at the Grub boot menu
Switch to system V
Does that work better?

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Would be happy to try any of that if you could tell me how to… I’m not a linux pro and all that I could google out regarding system V is that its some unix startup thing and its history and nothing more…

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At the boot screen press F5
Choose system V

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systemsettings -> KDM parameters -> Shutdown tab -> Shutdown command
then change /sbin/halt to /sbin/poweroff

I have non-english locale so the names may differ. Hope, it will help you.

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@inozemcew… I fixed one. I had set the power management setting that the system goes to into hibernate when the battery is critically down. For some reason my charger has some issue and my battery doesn’t charge. Battery was critically low and the system was going to halt instead of power off.

@caf4926 or any administrator. I think its a bug and powermanagement settings shouldn’t interfere when the user does these actions manually. The automatic and manual actions should be dealt with sepereately

@caf4926… I tried system V… the boot seems a little longer but effects are the same otherwise. Is it the old initrd and the new system d that is the difference. I mean system v and systemd?

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Hi,

Any solutions to my problem with the bootsplash and the sorry to say the shutdown issue is back. My solution worked fine a couple of time only.

thanks…

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Have you considered going back to 11.4, if that was what you were using before?

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Absolutely not… Do you mean to say I will have no luck with 12.1 ??? I just don’t want to give up… if this is a problem surely we’ll have some way out… its just that I don’t know whats the real issue here…

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OK
So you said you upgraded. Does that mean you didn’t do a fresh install?

Have you then considered doing a clean install?

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That can be considered… however this is my one and only OS and work horse and I don’t want to move my files and applications and start all over again - thats the only concern.

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On 11/27/2011 11:56 AM, melvinjose wrote:
> I don’t want to move my files and applications and start all
> over again - thats the only concern.

well, hmmmmm…you know you are going to be faced with this ‘problem’
every eight months (if you continue to upgrade with every new version
which drops)…and, for sure you need to carefully consider the
downsides and risks associated with each upgrade, clearly laid out as:

If for any reason the upgrade is interrupted (e.g: power outages,
network disconnect) and the process can’t continue, you could be left
with a broken system (that depends on where the process stopped of course).
If you have multiple systems to upgrade, you use bandwidth each
time, so it might be better to download an ISO image. …

Be aware that in principle, this upgrade process is considered “best
effort” only. This means that due to some third-party packages and the
myriad of possible configurations, it is possible for some combinations
to cause failure upon upgrade.

It is very important that all important data is backed up prior to
beginning the upgrade process.

Before upgrading, copy the old configuration files to a separate medium
(such as removable hard disk or USB flash drive) to secure the data.

If you upgrade a default system from the previous version to this
version, YaST works out the necessary changes and performs them.
Depending on your customizations, some steps (or the entire upgrade
procedure) may fail and you must resort to copying back your backup data.

above quoted from http://tinyurl.com/35p966c or http://tinyurl.com/6kvoflv

most of the ‘helpers’ here therefore backup and install…or, they
backup, try and upgrade and if that fails they fall back to the
previous or do an install and then bring the data back in…

it is the only logical way to proceed with “my one and only OS and work
horse”… or, well there are other alternatives, like a longer life OS
such as SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop or Red Hat Enterprise or maybe
Debian, CentOS and some others . . .

–
DD http://tinyurl.com/DD-Caveat
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!

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I did an 11.4 to 12.1 upgrade and also had the shutdown issue. inozemcew’s advice was half right for me, I had to change the command from /sbin/halt to /sbin/shutdown. I suppose there is some reason it defaulted to /sbin/halt but so far I have no side effects. As far as bootsplash, the upgrade did put the ugly green openSUSE bootsplash in place of my custom one. But I edited /etc/sysconfig/bootsplash and entered my theme back in and then successfully ran mkinitrd -s 1024x768 and my bootsplash now works fine.

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I do an upgrade from an ISO Image only and I always keep a live OS like vector linux of DSL to recover my personal data… in case somethings go wrong…

However, I upgrade just because I don’t want to tune up my system every time after an install but would like to make use of the new features. Moreover, some one has to test… what if everybody prefers a clean install…!!!

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On 11/28/2011 10:46 AM, melvinjose wrote:
> some one has to test… what if everybody prefers a clean
> install…!!!

:slight_smile: yep, i do appreciate the brave testers and early adopters!

i do wish they were all as capable as you are in ensuring the data
remains safe…

–
DD

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Thanks for the appreciation Denver… however do we any clue as to where we are with the issue… .any solutions… or should I put just an end to it get back to square one with a clean install

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I’ve just encountered the halt/shutdown issue with kdm - this thread was rather useful in confirming what I thought to be the answer.

Sounds like mikislate’s summary is the solution for now. You could raise a bug(s) ( openSUSE:Submitting bug reports - openSUSE ) if you want an official solution.

I would say it’s a little early to do a painless upgrade. A jump in the major version ID is normally not trivial. If you want to avoid hassles, wait until more issues are reported and resolved. On initial inspection the upgrade process seems to have worked well, but I have a bootable copy of my previous 11.4 root in another partition should I need to fall back (plus a fresh vanilla install of 12.1 in yet another partition for comparison).

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On 11/29/2011 04:06 PM, melvinjose wrote:
> or should I put just an
> end to it get back to square one with a clean install

do what you wish…i always do a clean install…

i may, someday do testing also…but not right now…right now i put far
too much time into other ways of helping the cause…

as for the freezes and shutdown problems those might be fixed by
switching from systemd to systemv…and, that problem might be fixed
tomorrow (or next month or year…i do not know)…

–
DD
openSUSE®, the “German Engineered Automobiles” of operating systems!