That is a socket 775 yes? One of my machines has an ASUS P5P800-SE motherboard, also a 775, and that has great difficulty working out the hardware during boot. It may take 6 minutes to boot, hanging for 4 minutes in the middle. Which suggests complicated hardware arrangements are not conducive to success.
I have four monitors. three of them are not getting a signal and one is. The one that is getting a signal is black after booting from the GRUB.
It sounds like a very complicated hardware arrangement. Please detail exactly how your hardware is connected since I anticipate this is a hardware detection problem as distinct from a download corruption problem.
It gets to the part about HAL Dameon and then the screen goes black.
So this would be on the boot-up diagnostic screen that you obtain by pressing Esc on the keyboard? Can you give full details of the message about the HAL and messages leading up to it?
Also does the OS actually start running although the screen is blank (or do you mean black with text?)? In other words can you connect to it though a network using ssh/vnc/ftp/telnet etc or is it completely dead?
same problem as in the post’s subject line. though i have an ati x1950pro, and i was fine with opensuse 11.0 and earlier versions - till they messed up with sax2.
anyway, i have tried all the graphical installation possibilities and only the test-only installation seems to work.
do i need to download and install ATI’s driver from their website? or di need to use sa2 with radeonhd? can i somehow force vesa mode with sax2 (or any other tool, for that matter) and get my graphical system up?
btw, this is my last hope on suse 11.2. if this doesnt get resolved (also, it doesn’t have superTux in the distro), i’m seriously looking to switch to another vendor.
PS. im tired of windo$ and one day i will surely get some linux distro to work for me
The radeon and radeonhd drivers in the as packaged openSUSE-11.2 were not very good. I used to recommend that users update the radeon/radeonhd drivers by going to the X11 : xorg repository, but that repository is so cutting edge it no longer works well (last I tried) with the 2.6.31 kernel in 11.2. Hence I can’t recommend that.
You state only the “test-only installation” works. I have no idea what that is. What is a “test-only installation” ??
I do note that the radeon driver works better than the radeonhd driver, and you could remove x11-xorg-driver-video-radeonhd and then restart and try X again.
Sax2 worked for me with the radeon driver in openSUSE-11.2. EXACTLY what command are you sending to try configure with sax2? How familiar are you with basic openSUSE graphic theory. If not familiar you could read through this. Don’t stop after the 1st post as there is further radeon/radeonhd information later on in the thread: openSUSE Graphic Card Practical Theory Guide for Users - openSUSE Forums
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I don’t want to risk sounding arrogant or dismissive about anything said here so far. I respect everything said. However I may just be able to contribute something different here.
I’m prepared to stick my neck out a long way by saying that if anybody with 11.2 installation problems wants to give themselves the best chance of achieving a successful installation then avoid automatic configuration like the plague. There is definitely something wrong with it. I experienced similarly obscure first reboot failure (and I have detected similar problems posted elsewhere) but all of my problems just evaporated when I cleared the “use Automatic Configuration” option box on the “Installation Mode” screen during the installation. You can get an idea of the length of my own saga from the post linked below: Kbluetooth will NOT work - openSUSE Forums
I can’t guarantee that this will fix your problem but I humbly recommend that you give it a try if you haven’t resolved your problem yet,
Terry.
I am skeptical if that is relevant in this case, but having stated that, I also follow the philosophy you expound and I agree here wrt clearing the “Automatic Configuration” option as a general practise.
Yes oldcpu, I accept that my testimony can only be intepreted as evidence that the automatic configuration module mishandles non-acpi BIOSes. However if you do accept my testimony, it means that the automatic configuration module is broken in at least one respect.
So what is the likelihood of there being more handling errors in the automatic configuration module that may lead to other installation problems? Since there is a precedent I would say that this is at least worthy of consideration. Having said that, it feels a bit harsh on the programmers and I do not wish to make any of them squirm more than once. We need them after all.
To close my last post on this subject “whilst we all need to keep an open mind we need to be paranoid as well”.
Your point is good. I’ve bookmarked this, and it makes me wonder, just what is made automatic when an install is automatic ? I don’t think it is documented (and then maintained) anywhere. But I could be wrong.
One can also say polite non-technical words in a bug report, noting that one thinks automatic configuration is useful, but that it is puzzling why the behaviour noted occurs in an automatic configuration and does not occur when automatic is deselected …
alright, so i gave a shot to:
sax2 -r -m 0=vesa
and it worked. (radeon worked as well, radeonhd freezes up, and i guess its the default driver of choice. more on this further down)
Thanks for all the help so far.
Now I would like to mention that I tried installing this 11.2 as I did with previous versions. That is, I always choose the maximum applicable expert settings during an install. i gave a shot to automatic configuration on only one of the attempts to see if i was doing anything wrong, but it turned out that the opensuse11.2 installer, itself, is not capable enough to know that radeonhd driver will not work with my hardware: ATI x1950pro.
Since the installer defaults to choosing (radeonhd) driver, the system would always freeze up, no matter what type of graphical configuration (and whether automatic or not) you choose - the system simply refuses to respond.
That said, I won’t blame AMD/ATI for a buggy driver (since they already offer that as a download off their website). What I would suggest is, that if any specific piece of hardware is not tested on a specific version/distro, the installer should choose the safest possible vga driver during the install, so that the system at least boots up.
Be it a newbie or not, 11.2 won’t work for AMD/ATI x1950 owners, unless you knew you had to install this distro choosing text mode/ server installation (no graphical interface) - that is, when you’re presented with options to choose Gnome, KDE and Other.
Thanks again for all the help and I really won’t suggest 11.2 for any ATI 1xxx series graphic card owners.
I think this is something we will need to track with openSUSE-11.3, where it is acknowledged that Novell / SuSE-GmbH have not provided much in the line of updates for the radeonhd driver (most updates have gone to the radeon driver), and hence I think we will see this happening in openSUSE-11.3 in July when it is released.
I’m pondering what the suggestions will be and what they should be to handle problems in 11.3 ?? I hope in 11.3 that the radeon driver (and not radeonhd) is loaded by default.
In 11.3 (as in 11.2) it should not be necessary to run sax2 , but rather xorg should automatically configure one’s X upon boot. Hence options may be to blacklist “radeonhd” driver in the /etc/modprobe.d/ blacklist file, and/or remote the rpm “xorg-x11-driver-video-radeonhd”.
I’m curious if you were to remove “xorg-x11-driver-video-radeonhd” if your PC would boot to X without an xorg.conf file (such as you are now using). But thats curiousity on my part and not a requirement.
I think you may find the radeon driver in 11.2 is a bit lacking. There have been many updates to Mesa and to the radeon driver since, but unfortunately those updates are not part of the official updates, and the updates in the Xorg : X11 repository are so cutting edge, I am concerned they may need a 2.6.34 kernel to function (I’m not sure) and hence they can not be nominally used in openSUSE-11.2 without a correponding unusual kernel update.
thanks for the input: oldcpu, gogalthorp and deano_ferrari.