> A few glitches:
>
> (1) KDE logon panel is now a bit of a mess. Adding list of users from
> its own panel may have seemed a good idea at the time but the logon
> panel should have been expanded to make room for the extra data.
>
> (2) NTP configuration fails. Server can be added and tested OK but the
> configuration cannot be saved. Bug raised.
>
> (3) Sound alerts follow a couple of seconds after the alert window is
> raised. I’ve usually completed actioning the alert by the time the
> warning sounds.
Well, that’s changed after updating to KDE 4.9.98 - no sound at all!
Sound is working in Yast test but that’s all.
>
> (4) KDE apps have lost their menu bars. This occurred after updating
> from the OSS factory repo. Originally thought just one machine
> affected but found the second, different-architecture machine with
> 12.3-B1 installed and same updates had the same problem. Gnome apps
> are unaffected. Dolphin is affected slightly differently in that the
> menu icon is missing from the main toolbar - the menu bar is
> purposefully hidden.
>
>
(5) “Switch user” doesn’t. I just get the password prompt to unlock my
current session.
(6) Plasma window pops up frequently saying
“Authorisation failed
Failed to obtain authentication”
No clue as to app or whatever is raising the warning. Do the
people who write these warnings never consider that I might be
running more than one application? Another new feature from KDE 4.9.98.
–
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 12.3-B1 (64-bit); KDE 4.9.98; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nouveau driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306
> Cloddy;2519601 Wrote:
> > (4) KDE apps have lost their menu bars.
>
> I have not seen that here, after two DVD installs (one 64bit with
> nvidia/nouveau graphics, the other 32 bit with ATI/radeon graphics).
I installed from the DVD. Then I added a few additional packages such as ecryptfs. That pulled in some additional packages that are not on the DVD (such as flash).
On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 21:46:01 +0000, eco2geek wrote:
> hendersj;2519644 Wrote:
>>
>> With milestone2, I was able to uninstall the installed VBox addons and
>> install the 4.2.6 version without any issue (or compiler).
>
> Aha, you used zypper. I was trying to use the VirtualBox Guest
> Additions ISO.
No, I used the ISO. Don’t know where you got that I used zypper to
install anything. I only used it to uninstall the installed extension
since they only gave me 640x480 resolution.
What happens when I run “openSUSE-KDE-LiveCD-Build0348-x86_64.iso” (or -i686.iso, doesn’t matter) in VirtualBox 4.2.6r82870 – that’s live, not installed – is that X doesn’t run and kdm doesn’t start. I’ve tried this both on Kubuntu and on openSUSE 12.2 with the same result. “Xorg.0.log” gives the following error message:
(II) Module vboxvideo: vendor="Oracle Corporation"
compiled for 10.12.0, module version = 1.0.1
Module class: X.Org Video Driver
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 12.0
(EE) module ABI major version (12) doesn't match the server's version (13)
<snip>
(EE) Failed to load module "vboxvideo" (module requirement mismatch, 0)
So, that’s the problem I was talking about.
Without the kernel headers, gcc, make, and their dependencies, installed, one cannot use “VboxGuestAdditions.iso” (usually installed with VirtualBox on the host computer) to build the main VirtualBox kernel module. And there usually isn’t enough room in the Live CD’s ramdisk to install all that stuff.
However, it appears that running the VirtualBox Guest Additions installer in the Live CD does install an updated “vboxvideo” graphics driver, which is enough to get X up and running. Is that what you did?
Installed KDE4 straight into a real partition with the x86_DVD, requesting “automatic configuration”. Issues:
My Realtek 811e onboard lan adapter is identified, but not configured. Also, as opposed to 12.2, it requires a reboot after manually configuring in Yast, for the settings to take effect. Same happened in M2.
As someone else has noted, configuring a time server in NTP results in a Yast2 error “Cannot adjust NTP service”. No such problem in M2.
3 For my onboard Realtek audio adapter, received message at logon, “The audio playback deevice HDA Intel PCH (ALC889 Analog) does not work. Falling back to HDA Intel PCH, HDMI 0 (HDMI audio output)”. Same behaviour in M2. Sound is crappier than in 12.2. M2 had the same behaviour.
Yast software manager came up with a infinitely looping “Ask packagekit to quit” message when refreshing repos. Believe it or not, when I disabled Nepomuk, the error message went away forever!
LibreOffice is put in with the standard install of KDE4 and, with it, the eternally security-riddled Java. Please have developers eliminate this dependancy so that it has to be explicitly selected by diehard suicide candidates! It has always worked fine without Java.
Patience doesn’t work. Regardless of game selected, it’s the same one, and even that doesn’t work. Same behaviour as M2.
On a positive note, I haven’t lost KDE menu bars like some other folks.
Been getting the following error message when starting YaST’s Software Management module:
An error occurred during repository initialization.
|] Valid metadata not found at specified URL
History:
|] Repository type can’t be determined.
But when I go to the Software Repositories module, the repos all refresh with no complaint.
However, the thing that concerns me the most about openSUSE 12.3 is that this Device Notifier icon in my System Tray looks suspiciously like a beer stein. Sure, Suse has a German provenance, but…it’s making me thirsty.
I did a fresh install of the 32-bit DVD iso from a USB stick, formatting the / partition, keeping the /home partition from 12.3 m2. The installation went normally. That means that it could not get to the network during installation, but that seems to be a router issue. This is on a fairly old ThinkPad X-41 I use for testing.
Fairly standard KDE installation. I deleted packagekit and apper from the installation selection. I’ll let the masochists deal with them.
KDE apps here seem to have the proper menu bars.
Patience woks fine, and did in milestone 2. There are only a few card decks available, and not the standard ones.
I have been unable to install vlc from either the packman or vlc repositories. Yast reports:
nothing provides libdvbpsi.so.7 needed by vlc-noX-2.0.5-101.5.i586
Using the laptop buttons to change sound volume, or mute, functions OK, but there is no graphic indication of the changes. The graphics work in 12.2. Bug report at https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=794444
It is not infinitely looping. It is only finitely looping. As far as I know, disabling Nepomuk has no effect. And once this stops, it stops forever - or at least it stops for a long time (a month or so).
The trick is to configure Apper to not start automatically. Then this problem problem never arises.
The installed java is the open source version (IcedTea). As far as I know, it does not have the same security problems as the oracle version, though perhaps it has different security problems.
Java for running local applications isn’t much of a problem anyway. The risk is the java plugin for your browser, which you can disable in the browser if you want to. As far as I know, the main risk is in Windows, because Windows users often browse the web as administrator.
Have you reported any of the bugs to the bugzilla?
On Sat, 19 Jan 2013 03:26:01 +0000, eco2geek wrote:
> What happens when I run “openSUSE-KDE-LiveCD-Build0348-x86_64.iso” (or
> -i686.iso, doesn’t matter) in VirtualBox 4.2.6r82870 – that’s live,
> not installed – is that X doesn’t run and kdm doesn’t start. I’ve tried
> this both on Kubuntu and on openSUSE 12.2 with the same result.
> “Xorg.0.log” gives the following error message:
That is consistent with what I got when I installed from the Beta1 DVD.
Right down to the ABI version error (which only resolved for me after a
reboot, in fact).
> Without the kernel headers, gcc, make, and their dependencies,
> installed, one cannot use “VboxGuestAdditions.iso” (usually installed
> with VirtualBox on the host computer) to build the main VirtualBox
> kernel module. And there usually isn’t enough room in the Live CD’s
> ramdisk to install all that stuff.
>
> However, it appears that running the VirtualBox Guest Additions
> installer in the Live CD does install an updated “vboxvideo” graphics
> driver, which is enough to get X up and running. Is that what you did?
No, I used the VboxGuestAdditions.iso (which is downloaded/used when you
use the “Install Guest Addons” item in the device menu). It did attempt
to compile something, but failed (as I didn’t install any compilation
tools), but it went ahead and continued and worked.
I haven’t seen that with the GNOME installation. What I have seen,
though, is an issue (which I’ve reported on the factory ML) where when I
log out, I cannot log back in again - some sort of a UTF-8 error is
generated if I select “Not listed” for the account name, but if I click
my account, it just shifts on the screen for a second, and then shifts
back.
> Code:
> --------------------
> (4) KDE apps have lost their menu bars. This occurred after
> updating from the OSS factory repo. Originally thought just one
> machine affected but found the second, different-architecture machine
> with 12.3-B1 installed and same updates had the same problem. Gnome
> apps are unaffected. Dolphin is affected slightly differently in that
> the menu icon is missing from the main toolbar - the menu bar is
> purposefully hidden.
> --------------------
>
>
> This only happens if you are using a latter than Beta 1 appmenu-qt
> package (ie from kde 4.10 rc3). If you revert to the version that
> comes with Beta 1 it should be fine.
It would have been a package update before rc3 (assuming that is
4.9.98) and would have been from the OSS factory repo. I updated from
KDE factory to 4.9.98 in the vain hope that it might provide a cure - it
didn’t.
I see another back-to-basics install in the wind.
–
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 12.3-B1 (64-bit); KDE 4.9.98; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nouveau driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306
> On Fri, 18 Jan 2013 20:56:01 GMT
> dth2 <dth2@no-mx.forums.opensuse.org> wrote:
>
> > Code:
> > --------------------
> > (4) KDE apps have lost their menu bars. This occurred after
> > updating from the OSS factory repo. Originally thought just one
> > machine affected but found the second, different-architecture
> > machine with 12.3-B1 installed and same updates had the same
> > problem. Gnome apps are unaffected. Dolphin is affected slightly
> > differently in that the menu icon is missing from the main toolbar
> > - the menu bar is purposefully hidden.
> > --------------------
> >
> >
> > This only happens if you are using a latter than Beta 1 appmenu-qt
> > package (ie from kde 4.10 rc3). If you revert to the version that
> > comes with Beta 1 it should be fine.
>
> It would have been a package update before rc3 (assuming that is
> 4.9.98) and would have been from the OSS factory repo. I updated from
> KDE factory to 4.9.98 in the vain hope that it might provide a cure -
> it didn’t.
>
> I see another back-to-basics install in the wind.
>
Or not. I disabled PulseAudio, logged off and on, got sound back, lost
cryptic warning messages - and got the menu bars back!
To be fair, I suspect the last may have been down to a small number of updates
installed this morning. I hope that’s the case else I understand even
less about what’s going on than I thought.
–
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks.
openSUSE 12.2 (64-bit); KDE 4.9.97; AMD Phenom II X2 550 Processor;
Video: nVidia GeForce 210 (using nouveau driver);
Sound: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA); Wireless: BCM4306
I downloaded both the 32-bit and 64-bit openSUSE-12.3 beta1 DVD iso files.
I tried and failed to install the 32-bit beta1 DVD on my sandbox PC. Either the install would fail to give a good GUI (for installation) or I would get an error from the DVD and not get the initial DVD boot menu. Checksum in DVD is ok (as tested on another PC). The DVD drive on my sandbox PC is very old , and for now I have concluded the DVD drive on this old sandbox PC (which is > 12 years old) has lost its calibration wrt the PC where the DVD was burned. Hence I am now looking at replacing the DVD driver in this old PC.
I then installed the 64-bit openSUSE-12.3 beta1 (from DVD) in a test partition on my newer Core i7-920 PC (which is now > 3 years old). I chose the KDE desktop. Installation was a bit slow, in that it took over 11-minutes for installation DVD to check partitions in this PC’s drive (which is a 2TB drive) and then when I rescanned the drive (so as to change the proposed partitioning) the install media took another 11-minutes to rescan. I saw similar behaviour with openSUSE-12.2 (this PC has openSUSE-12.1 installed in its main partitions). Evenually I succeeded obtaining proper partition indication, I chose the partitions to install, I selected the ‘legacy grub’ (ensuring MBR not touched) and installed 12.3 beta1 successfully.
During the install the Ethernet card was not configured and my local LAN was not identified. I had to go in to YaST after the install, configure the network card, reboot and then I could access my local LAN and had internet access.
Sound works ok.
I note special desktop effects work with the nouveau graphic driver. Some inxi details on this PC:
But I note my efforts to setup my Network printer (on a wired LAN - an HP C309a) failed. As a comparision I removed the printer setup from an openSUSE-12.2 install on a laptop which was on the same LAN. Then I installed the printer on that 12.2 (with YaST and hpsetup) and the printer worked. Then I adopted the same installation technique with openSUSE-12.3 beta1 (with YaST and hpsetup) and the printer did not print after the setup. So there is something different in the default setup (or in one of the printing apps) in 12.3 beta1 that stops the printing.
I’m suffering from head cold and mild flu, and don’t have the strength to investigate this further at this time …
I was trying to use the VirtualBox Guest Additions ISO.
I was trying to use the VirtualBox Guest