backintime: Where is the gui?

daka@linux-0xkw:~> su
Password: 
linux-0xkw:/home/daka # zypper in backintime
Loading repository data...
Reading installed packages...
Resolving package dependencies...


The following 6 NEW packages are going to be installed:
  backintime encfs libboost_serialization1_54_0 librlog5 python-notify sshfs 


The following 2 recommended packages were automatically selected:
  encfs sshfs 


6 new packages to install.
Overall download size: 681.5 KiB. Already cached: 0 B  After the operation, 
additional 3.1 MiB will be used.
Continue? [y/n/? shows all options] (y): y
Retrieving package libboost_serialization1_54_0-1.54.0-10.1.3.x86_64
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Retrieving: encfs-1.7.4-25.1.3.x86_64.rpm ................................[done]
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(1/6) Installing: libboost_serialization1_54_0-1.54.0-10.1.3 .............[done]
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linux-0xkw:/home/daka # backintime
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
Back In Time                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
Version: 1.0.34                                                                                                                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
Back In Time comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.                                                                                                                                                                                  
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it                                                                                                                                                                    
under certain conditions; type `backintime --license' for details.                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 
linux-0xkw:/home/daka #

When I type “backintime” at the terminal nothing happens. I thought this was a gui that was suppossed to come up?

linux-0xkw:/home/daka # kdesu backintime                                                                                                                                                                                         
kdesu(16056)/kdeui (kdelibs): Session bus not found                                                                                                                                                                              
To circumvent this problem try the following command (with Linux and bash)                                                                                                                                                       
export $(dbus-launch)                                                                                                                                                                                                            
KCrash: Application 'kdesu' crashing...                                                                                                                                                                                          
KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib64/kde4/libexec/drkonqi from kdeinit                                                                                                                                                         
KCrash: Connect sock_file=/root/.kde4/socket-linux-0xkw.site/kdeinit4__0                                                                                                                                                         
Warning: connect() failed: : Connection refused                                                                                                                                                                                  
KCrash: Attempting to start /usr/lib64/kde4/libexec/drkonqi directly                                                                                                                                                             
drkonqi(16057)/kdeui (kdelibs): Session bus not found                                                                                                                                                                            
To circumvent this problem try the following command (with Linux and bash) 
export $(dbus-launch) 
linux-0xkw:/home/daka # 

do not use kdesu for console applications
install one (or both) of the gui wrappers for backintime

sudo zypper in backintime-kde 

or if you’re a gnome user

sudo zypper in backintime-gnome

getting the manual is not a bad idea

sudo zypper in backintime-doc

https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Zypper_usage

Backintime-Gui:
Install backintime-gnome or backintime-kde

Thanks!

I read this page:

http://backintime.le-web.org/documentation/

And they never once mentioned “backintime-kde”

I would have never known if you had not told me. Thank you for your help.

Do you agree that this “backintime” is the best solution for me to create incremental backups once per week that I will save to an external USB hdd that is formatted as NTFS?

I don’t do backups (I should) I usually store documents in a folder and once in a while I’ll burn them on a DVD.

I read this page:

http://backintime.le-web.org/documentation/

And they never once mentioned “backintime-kde”

it is quite possible that someone else wrote those applications and the backintime author doesn’t know about them, that’s the beauty of open source a lot of people can compliment your work.

Bad News =(

I tried to create my first snapshot and got twenty million “permission denied” errors scrolling by so fast I can barely read them.

I am trying to save the directory named “/” to an external USB hdd that is formatted as NTFS

Im not sure that backintime is the best program for me.

I would ideally like something that can compress the snapshots into tar.gz and maintain the linux permissions when being saved onto the NTFS volume

Thank you my friend,

I did read that page previously. The only problem is they never ONCE in the entire page mention sudo.

Go ahead and do a Cntrl + F on the entire page the word sudo does not come up even a single time.

That was the source of confusion for me

but that directory is your entire Linux system including external hard drives and the internet, only back-up your home dir/partition (or parts of it)
so try again but only do it for **/home **there is little point in backing up everything else.

Nothing wrong with it thee are several backup programs. I suggest that you go to yast software management and check the box search in description and search for backup. You will get a whole bunch to look at.

Personally I format the USB stick as ext4 (no journel) and use Luckybackup, which uses rsync to backup. This way it is a proper Linux FS and once the first backup is done it is very fast only writing changes.

There is something to be said for incremental it acts a time machine so you can go back to the main if needed. But restore can be a pain since you have to go to the original backup first then move through.

For me a simple backup is good. I will start doing multiple rotating versions to allow for failure of backup media. USBs are dirt cheap

Basically I want to backup a “known good configuration” of the entire system to quickly recover the entire system from a disaster. Basically I am trying to create an enterprise image for disaster recovery.

My USB external hdd is 750GB. Can I just create a 100GB partition on the external drive and format it as ext4? Will that work?

Sure. Any size or number you want. Note if already formatted you will have to resize or redo any exiting partitions.

You seem to lack a lot of basic information. That is not a problem, but expect a steep learning curve :wink:

About partitions, etc.: https://en.opensuse.org/SDB%3ABasics_of_partitions,_filesystems,_mount_points

Thanks,

Yeah I am basically having to learn everything about Linux from scratch. :shame:

No need for :shame:. Every one of us had to learn from scratch some time. And remind, these forums ae the place to ask, to ask for further clarification and to ask more. That is what they are for.

This is a very worthwhile action, but somewhat different than what is intended with Back in Time. The main requirement for disaster recovery is having the image on separate media, and a bootable medium that runs a system to restore it. When the primary hard drives dies, something else must boot the system and execute recovery.

I use Back in Time to do nightly backups of select, important files that are revised frequently.

For disaster recovery, look at Clonezilla, at http://www.clonezilla.org/.

Regards,
Howard

If you’re looking for an alternative, I can highly recommend extundelete (as the name implies, it only runs on ext file systems)
http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/

As expected,
Once you set it up, it will automatically make a backup of any files that are changed.
Although there is no GUI, it’s very simple to setup and run, you just follow the questions you’re prompted and it runs.

When I last looked at it, it only supported one disk. It wouldn’t access any other disks, so everything you want protected has to be on the primary disk (whatever partitions).

TSU

Hmmm,

But I installed OpenSuse with the default filesystem which is btrfs… not ext4. Will it still work?

Thanks,

That looks good. I will create an image with CloneZilla and then use one of the other tools (probably luckybackup) to run more specific backups every 3 days (incremental). And every 3 months I will make a new CloneZilla image and purge the old one.