For instance I have installed Amarok version 2.2.1.90 but I can see in yast that there is a newer version 2.2.2-57.1 available.
However when I want to update it via Updater Applet it says that there are no updates for my computer. I have noticed that this Updater Applet updates only security issues and similar stuff. Is it possible to update everything via this applet? That means automatically update software whenever there is a newer version?
in openSUSE lingo there is a difference between terms “update” and
“upgrade”…
a program can be updated to repair a bug, patch a security flaw or
etc…for example if a bug or security flaw is found in Firefox there
will be a patch/update installed via the YaST online updater (YOU)…
on the other hand if Mozilla’s hackers issue a new version of Firefox
then you may (if you wish) upgrade to the new version…
the updater applet doesn’t do upgrades…
you do upgrades using YaST, rpms, compiling and installing from
source, or via simple magic… 
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palladium
Thank, now it is very clear.
Yet still, it would be nice if the update applet could do upgrades… at least as an option. I would like to be notified when the new versions of my favorite programs come out.
tobice wrote:
> I would like to be notified when the new versions
> of my favorite programs come out.
remembering that there are thousands of independent hackers out there
turning out new/improved versions of software every day it would be
one VERY busy application…
really! you can get new versions everyday…
i mean, if you wanted to you could add the ‘factory’ repos and get a
new openSUSE 11.3 so often you would find yourself doing nothing but
trying to figure out what did they break the code this time!!
if you wanna track new numbered releases of your “favorite programs”
then i’d guess you just need to find their source on the web and
subscribe to their news feed…but, be prepared for a FLOOD of info…
and, by the way: if you try to always have the latest and greatest yo
will so learn that that is a hobby quite different from actually using
a computer to do something!
i’d suggest if you need a computer for anything, then keep it stable
(and, don’t load every new bit available) and get a completely
different box (most call it a ‘sandbox’) that you can
download > install > break > fix daily
ymmv,
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palladium
I don’t think it would be so bad. Of course, that new versions of various sw are coming out every day but who says I have installed all of them?
It’s been a month since I manually upgraded all my packages. Now, if I wanted to upgrade everything again, the upgrade would have around 500MB including new version of KDE, wine and mplayer. It is around 120-150MB per week and that is really not very much. Plus I assume that new KDE, wine or mplayer don’t go out every month.
I could write some script myself, which would upgrade daily or weekly whole system (bash, cron etc…), but I was interested whether is there some “official” openSuse way how to achieve this.
I am former Gentoo user and maybe that is the reason why I am trying to transfer some gentoo-habits to openSuse. I don’t know.
Anyway I am always really looking forward to new versions of Firefox, Amarok, Ktorrent or even whole KDE because of the new features. Linux is kind of my hobby so I don’t mind occasionally solving some issues. And by the way, the mentioned last complete upgrade worked flawlessly. I didn’t have to touch anything.
> Anyway I am always really looking forward to new versions of Firefox,
> Amarok, Ktorrent or even whole KDE
someone other than me will have to tell you how to do that…since i’m
using openSUSE 10.3 as my daily excitement you will be able to
understand i don’t have a need to know how to do what you want…
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palladium
You have explained the important thing - difference between update and upgrade in openSuse. So thank you for that.