Attempted to install inside Vista

Well I’ll start of by saying,…yes I made a boo boo.

So I’ve “put my thinking cap on” and have done some reading. And nothing is working,…I"ve downloaded the Windows RE iso and burned it,…it loads,…auto repair comes back with nothing so I’ve proceeded through methods one and two,…I’m on to three now, but i get stuck at step 9 with the description part. What the heck do i put in here?

I’m frustrated as heck,…got the opensuse disc out of a book i bought thinking it was safe to play around DOH

so I get to this stage…

C:\Windows\System32>bcdedit -create {bootmgr} -d “description” <—I type in Microsoft Windows Vista and I get an error saying the specified entry already exists.

I’m lost, I’ve tried putting in something random thinking it would just create a new entry but nope, does’nt work.

yes I’m a noob, sorry

Got know clue of what you are trying to do.

You tried to install Suse via windows. WRONG. But you know that now.

The process screwed up Windows. Right?

You need to install/repair Windows. And you ask for advice on a Linux board. LOL Ok on the whole I expect that Linux people are smarter. rotfl!

I assume you do not have proper Windows media. So you must get proper Windows media to install. Perhaps the people that you bought the machine from and who should have included proper Windows media, might be able to help.

Well thanks for your reply i guess, I’ve been met with frustration,.I was trying to check out something other than widows and your reply has simply tarnished the experience even more.

Ok So you screwed your windows install so you have to reinstall. If it was me I’d take my Windows disk and reinstall (I do have one paid my MS tax and everything). The problem is that you don’t have one because MS does not properly support their users.

There have been several people that have had similar experience lately. It would be nice know where the idea that you can install Suse in Windows is coming from. If you had followed the instruction from the OpenSuse web site you would not be having this problem.

If you have a Linux question I’d be glade to help. But some detail about some strange Windows RE that I never herd of I can’t help with. I suggest you try and find a Windows board that may have more expertize in Windows.

Maybe I was rubbing in a little strong,if so I apologize.

sketchy wrote:

>
> Well thanks for your reply i guess, I’ve been met with frustration,.I
> was trying to check out something other than widows and your reply has
> simply tarnished the experience even more.
>
>
Linux is not a program which is run on windows, but an alternative operating
system. So why do you expect that you can install it IN windows.
Did you not read the installation information howto install opensuse
properly?

Step-by-step guides
http://en.opensuse.org/Installation

sketchy wrote:
>
> I’m frustrated as heck,…got the opensuse disc out of a book i bought
> thinking it was safe to play around DOH
>
Out of which book? Was there no description howto install it the correct
way?
If you did it the way it is described there and what you write is the result
you should complain to the author of the book.
Just my opinion.

And now something more friendly,
I see this is your first thread.

Welcome :slight_smile:

If after that frustrating experiment you are still interested in
testing/installing opensuse I think you will find many nice peaople her
which are glad to help you.

I hope you understand my reaction: It is frustrating for the reader (me) to
see someone making his/her first posts and the very start are complaints
from this person.
It is better to ask first if you are unsure how to do something (and then
complain if the help you get is bad), because then there is a good chance
that there will be no reason to complain.

gogalthorp wrote:
>
> There have been several people that have had similar experience lately.
> It would be nice know where the idea that you can install Suse in
> Windows is coming from. If you had followed the instruction from the
> OpenSuse web site you would not be having this problem.
>
Maybe it comes from the fact that ubuntu has some tool to run an instance of
ubuntu linux from windows (I think it is called wubi and I know nothing
about its quality).
And maybe a lot of people heard about it more or less and think all the
linux distros are essentially the same.

sketchy wrote:

>
> so I get to this stage…
>
> C:\Windows\System32>bcdedit -create {bootmgr} -d “description” <—I
> type in Microsoft Windows Vista and I get an error saying the specified
> entry already exists.
>
> I’m lost, I’ve tried putting in something random thinking it would just
> create a new entry but nope, does’nt work.
>
> yes I’m a noob, sorry
>
You try to repair your vista bootloader I guess. You should follow the
guides from microsoft because this is the manufacturer.

Which guide do you follow at the moment?

Did you check this one?
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392/EN-US/

no this one Error message when you start Windows Vista: “The Windows Boot Configuration Data file is missing required information”

anywhoo,…I’ll search elsewhere,…thanks for your time. When i googled my problem i kept getting linked to here,…perhaps i will have to alter my search efforts. thanks again

sketchy wrote:

>
> no this one ‘Error message when you start Windows Vista: “The
> Windows Boot Configuration Data file is missing required
> information”’ (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927391)
>
>
Can you give me a short overview how you tried to install opensuse (step by
step as far as you can remember) and at which step it went so wrong that
your vista is screwed.
I don’t want to give you a wrong information, so I need to do an educated
guess at least what was destroyed (maybe the MBR).

well I had shrunk my partition through windows firstly,…then I put the opensuse cd in the drive and installed it, but it never fully installed. I can still use opensuse through the cd,…I can even see all my files on vista through the cd (i’m sure your laughing by now) In anycase, when i reboot i get to choose Vista or Opensuse installtion,…choosing either gets me "booting openSUSE 11.2 installer (local), filesystem type is ntfs, partion type 0x7
error code 17.

What kind of cd is this, you wrote it is from a book. Is it a live cd (you
write you can look at your files with it on the windows partitition so I
guess it is some live cd).

Before you go on do you have a backup of your data on the windows system? If
not I would now take the chance to copy everything you can see with the
opensuse cd to some external media (maybe you have an external harddisk via
usb or so). Just to be sure that you do not loose all your data if anything
goes wrong.

> I can even see all my files on
> vista through the cd (i’m sure your laughing by now)

No. I still know the feeling to sit in front of a more or less destroyed
system (it was some years ago).
It is not funny.

I nned to think a little bit what the next step is.

After you saved your data. I would proceed with

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927392/EN-US/

and try first the

/FixMbr
and the
/FixBoot

options.

I need to go to bed now its half past 2 a. m. where I am.

sketchy wrote:
> I’m frustrated as heck,…got the opensuse disc out of a book i bought
> thinking it was safe to play around DOH

well, two things:

  1. what is the name of that book you bought…the book that didn’t say
    to BOOT from the disk…or did it say to shrink “my partition
    through windows firstly,…then I put the opensuse cd in the drive and
    installed it” into a running windows…

really, i wanna know if it said that…and, the name of the book so i
can write them and get them to correct and REWRITE before they
re-publish!!

If you have time i’d love to have all the details of that book (name,
publisher, ISBN, any www links, etc) and the page number where it
clearly doesn’t tell you to boot from the disk…

please!! (this is a trap that needs to be fixed, soon!!)

  1. “play around” with Linux (and any other no-training-wheels non-game
    system) and you quickly learn it is not a game to play around with
    (unless you enjoy killing your computer)…

  2. there is (maybe) still a way to undo the mess…but, sorry i can’t
    help because i know practically nothing about Windows software (last
    system used routinely was Win3.1)…but, i think i’d begin fixing it
    this way, in order…if there is/was anything on the disk of value to you:

a. do a complete restore from your most recent, pre-disaster, full
system backup (and, then try Linux again, by booting from the install
disk)

b. failing that, use your built-in Window’s “uninstall” routine to
uninstall Linux

c. failing that, investigate the availability of a third party Windows
uninstall application and . . .

d. failing that, boot from your original, genuine Windows disk which
came with your system and select “Repair Installed System” (or
something like that)…

d. failing that, ask a certified Windows Engineer you find on the net
to help you fix your system

e. failing that, find a certified Windows Engineer in the phone book
and ask that engineer how much you need to pay to remedy your small
mistake…

f. failing that, take your machine to a computer repair shop and
describe to them what happened

g. failing that, ask a bunch of folks who don’t use Windows much at
all how to fix it…


palladium

read this

Update from Suse 11.0 to 11.1 - Page 2 - openSUSE Forums

I think that before anyone has a shot at someone using this install method they should first check the openSUSE docs , In particular open SUSE 11.2 Start-UP , under the heading “Installing with openSUSE installer from windows”.It is only those new to Linux that would use a method like this.But realy ? How would they know?

would you have a link to that “Installing with openSUSE installer from
windows” section…i’d be interested in looking at it…


palladium