Currently I’m using openSUSE 11.0, GNOME, with Compiz.
When I tried openSUSE 11.1, Compiz refused to work with my hardware. The following message appears when I enable desktop effects:
Desktop effects are not supported on your current hardware configuration.
Would you like to activate them anyway?
This was a huge disappointment for me. Now I’m considering migration to Fedora 11 (I already tested, everything works there).
Before I do it I would like to know if my decision is not too hasty (yes I would like to stay with openSUSE).
What is the reason that ATI Radeon 9600 is not any more supported in openSUSE?
Is there a workaround for this issue?
Will ATI Radeon 9600 graphic card be supported in OpenSUSE 11.2?
So you’re going to move to a completely different distro just because you can’t have “bling bling” which seems so necessary and needed for you to do some real work? Makes very little sense to me, but do as you please
I’m asking myself, what I must have been done wrong since openSUSE 10.2 (and up to 11.0, when the respective machine died of old age) with my Radeon 9600, which worked without any proprietary driver and compositing.
Well, for real work I use RHEL (8 hours a day), without “bling bling” indeed.
After work though, when I get home, I like to have fun. Thus at home I enjoy “bling bling” and do not intend to do any real work.
Wouldn’t it be a waste of time to develop the “bling bling” if nobody liked to have it?
Thanks for the drivers though, I shall try them when openSUSE 11.2 gets released.
I do not believe that the 9600 is supported in 11.2 because it will have a version of xorg which the latest legacy version of the catalyst driver does not support. There was something about it not supporting randr 1.6? I’m using a 9500 pro myself and as I understand am stuck at 11.1 and catalyst 9.3 which itself does not even work properly for me until I can get a computer, which likely will not be for years.
If I am mistaken about this I would be more than happy if someone would enlighten me. It would be great to be able to move on to the next release of openSUSE after all.
openSUSE 11.2 will support the 9600 Mobility with 3D/compositing through the free “radeon” drivers as it did support it in any previous version from 10.2 on.
It will -amongst a lot of others- no longer be supported by fglrx, which is provided bei ATI/AMD.
I have an ASUS K8N motherboard with nForce3 chipset and I am using an Sapphire ATI Radeon 9600 PRO VGA.
When I tried the Ubuntu 9.04 (32 bit) and the openSUSE 11.1 (32 bit) I realised that I couldn’t use my VGA. The Ubuntu live cd didn’t work, I just get black screen instead of the desktop in the end of boot >:(.
I could install the openSUSE 11.1, but before the install I had to boot windows, then I had to disable the 3D in the openSUSE 11.1’s install (I used DVD install). Without windows boot the installer didn’t find my VGA, so the install process froze.
So I got desktop, but without effects. (This is a BIOS/chipset/Driver problem…)
But I would have wanted effects! :shame:
So I decided to try the 64 bit systems. I downloaded and tried the Ubuntu 9.04 64 bit edition and I had a big-big surprise because I got a desktop with effects!
I tried to use Ubuntu, but my heart pulled me towards back to openSUSE.
So I downloaded the 64 bit edition of the openSUSE 11.1 DVD installer, and I installed it with KDE 4. Now I have an openSUSE OS with KDE (4.3.2) and with effects out of the box with the open source “radeon” driver! lol!
So, my VGA problem(s) resolved with the switch to 64 bit OS.
I think you should give a chance for the open source drivers and/or the 64 bit. Maybe it/they can give you fun.
I am looking forward to 11.2, I am sure it will be better.
"openSUSE 11.2 will support the 9600 Mobility with 3D/compositing through the free “radeon” drivers as it did support it in any previous version from 10.2 on.
It will -amongst a lot of others- no longer be supported by fglrx, which is provided bei ATI/AMD."
Yeah thats what I meant. I just forgot to mention the radeon part.
> “openSUSE 11.2 will support the 9600 Mobility with 3D/compositing
> through the free “radeon” drivers as it did support it in any previous
> version from 10.2 on.
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> It will -amongst a lot of others- no longer be supported by fglrx,
> which is provided bei ATI/AMD.”
Why, in a clean install of 11.2 RC2 with no proprietary drivers, does
xorg.0.log have an error as follows:
(II) LoadModule: “fglrx”
(WW) Warning, couldn’t open module fglrx
(II) UnloadModule: “fglrx”
(EE) Failed to load module “fglrx” (module does not exist, 0)
In 11.1, fglrx doesn’t get a mention.
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Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy
“I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.”
These are some recollections on my recent adventures with ATI drivers, they may be of assistance.
11.1 loaded the open source radeon driver by default. One has to go searching for the proprietary fglrx driver. Support for the older ATI devices was capped at Catalyst 9.3 (if you install from ATI site) which is fglrx_01 if you download from repository.
11.2RCx - perhaps it is trying to load fglrx_02 in error? It will not work on that device. Try radeon driver.
I never could get fglrx_01 working properly on my x1250 chipset, the “mobo integrated” version of this video device, but your results may vairy.
I’m a bit confused, not able to follow the discussion completely.
If I understand correctly, the Radeon 9600 will be supported in new releases of openSUSE.
However, fglrx will not be supported any more, which is required for desktop effects.
So in order to get the desktop effects working in openSUSE 11.1 (and later) I need to install fglrx, which is provided by ATI/AMD.
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> blnl;2058825 Wrote:
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>> If I understand correctly, the Radeon 9600 will be supported in new
>> releases of openSUSE.
>> However, -fglrx- will not be supported any more,
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> Correct.
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> blnl;2058825 Wrote:
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>> which is required for desktop effects.
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> Wrong.
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> blnl;2058825 Wrote:
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>> So in order to get the desktop effects working in openSUSE 11.1 (and
>> later) I need to install fglrx, which is provided by ATI/AMD.
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>> Is this correct?
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> No.
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>
Then it’s somewhat unfortunate that 11.2 produces error messages saying it
can’t find fglrx.
–
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy
“I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.”
If the Radeon 9600 is supported and ‘fglrx’ is not required for desktop effects, why do I get the flowing warning in openSUSE 11.1 when I enable desktop defects:
Desktop effects are not supported on your current hardware configuration.
By the way, in openSUSE 11.0 desktop effects work out of the box.
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> Don’t install fglrx… you can use the opensource drivers as was posted
> in comment #2.
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>
But we’ll have to wait for the 11.2 version to be published. Mind you, I
hope that the default one will be fixed soon so that I can decide whether or
not to install the proprietary version.
–
Graham P Davis, Bracknell, Berks., UK. E-mail: newsman not newsboy
“I wear the cheese. It does not wear me.”
I have two machines with Radeon 9600 cards (one is my laptop with a Mobility Radeon 9700, but that apparently is just a 9600 with another name). I was never able to get the proprietary fglrx driver installed properly in the past with openSUSE versions from 10.0 thru 10.3.
Then on upgrade to 11.0 I discovered the free Radeon driver, installed by default, was more than capable of running desktop effects and some 3D screensavers. That is, however, with KDE and KWin; never tried Compiz.
What I would like to know is whether, considering that openSUSE 11.2 will have Xorg 7.4 (same as 11.1 had), the free Radeon driver will be in any way improved for 9600 owners? I don’t know which package exactly the driver is contained in.
I have HD4650 as well, compiz doesn’t work out of the box (in ubuntu it does!!!), there is also no xorg.conf file after system installation. For xorg.conf I’ve did: Desktop effects are not supported… - openSUSE Forums that got me the xorg.conf, but still no effects. In fact i can’t even start simple-ccsm anymore. I could after instalation, but if I enabled desktop effects I got the white screen.
Does anyone know how to get compiz working on openSUSE??? I couldn’t get it to work on 11.0 or 11.1!
BTW Installing ATI propriatary drivers makes my desktop dissapear (I just have a wallpaper) and no control over the keyboard!
