as of this morning, Unable to play anything with VLC... (VideoLan Client)

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#1

Hello,
this makes me sad to say as I really like VLC… It is crashing on me as of this morning.
I did updates yesterday as I often do, to my openSuSE Linux 12.3 , KDE 4.10.2 system.
I had installed and now removed bluefish (php editor).
Also installed, but not all at once, but after i know VLC worked and before i tried using VLC to discover it was failing… sadly.

  • Merkaartor open maps editor
    KXML editor kde3
    TeXStudio LaTeX editor
    TeX
    TeX Live
    LyX (LaTeX editor)
    Blender (3d render)

Plus a security update (don’t really remember which update, maybe Java) for openSuSE 12.3.
and update flashplayer 11.202.285 (thought adobe had abandoned Linux users at 11.202.280… )

Here is what I get in /var/log/messages


landis@Linux-D630:~> grep 'vlc' /var/log/messages
2013-05-18T00:43:32.510177-05:00 Linux-D630 kernel: [14062.476347] vlc[3315]: segfault at 10 ip b5a4dbaf sp b4efd3f0 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.8.4[b58cb000+2e5000]
2013-05-18T03:07:25.826401-05:00 Linux-D630 kernel:  6796.799121] vlc[3618]: segfault at 4 ip b39e5acb sp b52fe910 error 4 in libQtDBus.so.4.8.4[b39c2000+7f000]
2013-05-18T03:07:42.382424-05:00 Linux-D630 kernel:  6813.355590] vlc[3631]: segfault at 0 ip b597b893 sp b51f9b60 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.8.4[b5910000+2e5000]
2013-05-18T03:11:53.763463-05:00 Linux-D630 kernel:  7064.736168] vlc[3771]: segfault at 0 ip b5a24893 sp b51f9b60 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.8.4[b59b9000+2e5000]
2013-05-18T10:15:25.627411-05:00 Linux-D630 kernel: [32476.600161] vlc[7499]: segfault at 0 ip b5e6e41e sp b51fe700 error 6 in libQtGui.so.4.8.4[b5bf4000+aba000]
2013-05-18T10:17:30.234434-05:00 Linux-D630 kernel: [32601.207774] vlc[7619]: segfault at 0 ip b5e3241e sp b4f67480 error 6 in libQtGui.so.4.8.4[b5bb8000+aba000]
2013-05-18T10:37:40.116416-05:00 Linux-D630 kernel:   948.087636] vlc[1604]: segfault at 6 ip b3012389 sp b51fe6d0 error 4 in libkdecore.so.5.10.2[b2f27000+2cb000]
2013-05-18T10:38:21.323422-05:00 Linux-D630 kernel:   989.294943] vlc[1622]: segfault at 4 ip b57adae6 sp b52e5670 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.8.4[b5649000+2e5000]
2013-05-18T11:12:10.636604-05:00 Linux-D630 kernel:  1790.608219] vlc[1409]: segfault at 0 ip b567b893 sp b5179b60 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.8.4[b5610000+2e5000]
2013-05-18T11:12:30.593612-05:00 Linux-D630 kernel:  1810.565712] vlc[1423]: segfault at 6c2f65a6 ip b2cfe4c3 sp b51fe520 error 4 in libkdecore.so.5.10.2[b2c7f000+2cb000]
2013-05-18T12:03:25.505770-05:00 Linux-D630 kernel:  2570.472539] vlc[1474]: segfault at 4 ip b5f267ca sp b48fbbf0 error 4 in libQtGui.so.4.8.4[b5be3000+aba000]
2013-05-18T12:10:47.509722-05:00 Linux-D630 kernel:  3012.476862] vlc[1525]: segfault at 78363130 ip b7741ec7 sp b487d970 error 4 in ld-2.17.so[b7739000+20000]
2013-05-18T14:36:22.232059-05:00 Linux-D630 kernel:   466.198559] vlc[1405]: segfault at 4 ip b581be56 sp b51fd530 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.8.4[b56b7000+2e5000]
2013-05-18T14:43:51.815087-05:00 Linux-D630 kernel:   915.781100] vlc[1569]: segfault at 4 ip b3b61715 sp b0be8840 error 4 in libQtDBus.so.4.8.4[b3b1f000+7f000]
landis@Linux-D630:~> clear
landis@Linux-D630:~> grep 'vlc' /var/log/messages
2013-05-18T00:43:32.510177-05:00 Linux-D630 kernel: [14062.476347] vlc[3315]: segfault at 10 ip b5a4dbaf sp b4efd3f0 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.8.4[b58cb000+2e5000]
2013-05-18T03:07:25.826401-05:00 Linux-D630 kernel:  6796.799121] vlc[3618]: segfault at 4 ip b39e5acb sp b52fe910 error 4 in libQtDBus.so.4.8.4[b39c2000+7f000]
2013-05-18T03:07:42.382424-05:00 Linux-D630 kernel:  6813.355590] vlc[3631]: segfault at 0 ip b597b893 sp b51f9b60 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.8.4[b5910000+2e5000]
2013-05-18T03:11:53.763463-05:00 Linux-D630 kernel:  7064.736168] vlc[3771]: segfault at 0 ip b5a24893 sp b51f9b60 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.8.4[b59b9000+2e5000]
2013-05-18T10:15:25.627411-05:00 Linux-D630 kernel: [32476.600161] vlc[7499]: segfault at 0 ip b5e6e41e sp b51fe700 error 6 in libQtGui.so.4.8.4[b5bf4000+aba000]
2013-05-18T10:17:30.234434-05:00 Linux-D630 kernel: [32601.207774] vlc[7619]: segfault at 0 ip b5e3241e sp b4f67480 error 6 in libQtGui.so.4.8.4[b5bb8000+aba000]
2013-05-18T10:37:40.116416-05:00 Linux-D630 kernel:   948.087636] vlc[1604]: segfault at 6 ip b3012389 sp b51fe6d0 error 4 in libkdecore.so.5.10.2[b2f27000+2cb000]
2013-05-18T10:38:21.323422-05:00 Linux-D630 kernel:   989.294943] vlc[1622]: segfault at 4 ip b57adae6 sp b52e5670 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.8.4[b5649000+2e5000]
2013-05-18T11:12:10.636604-05:00 Linux-D630 kernel:  1790.608219] vlc[1409]: segfault at 0 ip b567b893 sp b5179b60 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.8.4[b5610000+2e5000]
2013-05-18T11:12:30.593612-05:00 Linux-D630 kernel:  1810.565712] vlc[1423]: segfault at 6c2f65a6 ip b2cfe4c3 sp b51fe520 error 4 in libkdecore.so.5.10.2[b2c7f000+2cb000]
2013-05-18T12:03:25.505770-05:00 Linux-D630 kernel:  2570.472539] vlc[1474]: segfault at 4 ip b5f267ca sp b48fbbf0 error 4 in libQtGui.so.4.8.4[b5be3000+aba000]
2013-05-18T12:10:47.509722-05:00 Linux-D630 kernel:  3012.476862] vlc[1525]: segfault at 78363130 ip b7741ec7 sp b487d970 error 4 in ld-2.17.so[b7739000+20000]
2013-05-18T14:36:22.232059-05:00 Linux-D630 kernel:   466.198559] vlc[1405]: segfault at 4 ip b581be56 sp b51fd530 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.8.4[b56b7000+2e5000]
2013-05-18T14:43:51.815087-05:00 Linux-D630 kernel:   915.781100] vlc[1569]: segfault at 4 ip b3b61715 sp b0be8840 error 4 in libQtDBus.so.4.8.4[b3b1f000+7f000]
landis@Linux-D630:~>

VLC will start if I launch VLC directly, but if I drag a audio or video (any mp4, mp3, flv, ogv etc) on it, do Media > Open or click a media file (as i’ve always done, by default launches VLC), VLC seems to start to load, screen ‘flashes’ (VLC crashing) and then it’s gone. I never see the UI of VLC come up.

I’ve removed all VLC, mplayer, kaffine, etc apps. Forced update of all VLC ‘dependent’ files, libraries (glibc, qt4, kde4, etc), all that VLC requires. Shut down and started system several times. Finally installed (via YaST2) VLC version 2.0.6-17.1 from //download.videolan.org/pub/vlc/SuSE/12.3/ repo and Not 2.0.6-7.1 from opensuse and Not pacman ver 2.0.6-123.1. I even tried the vlc-beta 2.1.0-2013032901.2-i586. I uninstalled (via Yast2) each one and shutdown, start before trying another version.

Any Ideas?

– Edit –

I’ve updated KDE to 4.10.3 from //download.opensuse.org/repositories/KDE:/Release:/410/openSUSE_12.3/ and re installed VLC 2.0.6-17.1 (stable), with debug for core, codec, qt, vlc etc…
Where is and how do I access, view the ‘debug’ information.
VLC still, will start on it’s own, but as soon as a file is opened it crashes. - or - if a media file (file.mp4 etc) is clicked to launch VLC…

Anyone?
Reed.

#2

I request that you open up terminal and run this command:

rpm -q --all | sort | grep "vlc"

Here is the list I get:

libvlc5-2.0.6-123.1.x86_64
libvlccore5-2.0.6-123.1.x86_64
vlc-2.0.6-123.1.x86_64
vlc-aout-pulse-2.0.6-123.1.x86_64
vlc-codecs-2.0.6-123.1.x86_64
vlc-codecs-debuginfo-2.0.6-123.1.x86_64
vlc-noX-2.0.6-123.1.x86_64
vlc-qt-2.0.6-123.1.x86_64

Please note that the package “vlc-codecs-2.0.6-123.1.x86_64” is something new that is required, and not needed before a recent change in vlc.

Thank You,

#3

thank you…

this is what I get using your code:


rpm -q --all | sort | grep "vlc"
libvlc5-2.0.6-123.1.i586
libvlc5-debuginfo-2.1.0-2013032901.2.i586
libvlccore5-2.0.6-123.1.i586
libvlccore5-debuginfo-2.1.0-2013032901.2.i586
vlc-2.0.6-123.1.i586
vlc-codecs-2.0.6-17.1.i586
vlc-codecs-debuginfo-2.0.6-17.1.i586
vlc-debuginfo-2.0.6-17.1.i586
vlc-noX-2.0.6-123.1.i586
vlc-noX-debuginfo-2.0.6-17.1.i586
vlc-qt-2.0.6-123.1.i586
vlc-qt-debuginfo-2.0.6-17.1.i586

*note, as i said, i added ‘debug’ packages hoping to figure out something, anything… turns out, I don’t know where or how to view the info generated, if any.

Reed.
p.s., I installed xine and and it does the same ‘flash’ thing. the app flashes the screen and goes away. I never see the UI. xine will not even start on it’s own (w/o video), but I can start VLC w/o video.

#4

The packages from Packman work fine here…

What graphics card/driver are you using? Is it working correctly?

Please post the output of:

glxinfo | grep render

(you have to install the package “Mesa-demo-x” first)

#5

thank you for trying…
the video worked fine yesterday and it works fine, displaying graphics including images I just edited in gimp…

Reed

#6

That proves nothing. The video driver could have stopped working properly today because of some update and now playing videos fail to work although you can still display graphics. (playing videos and displaying images is not really the same stuff, think of hardware acceleration/video decoding. f.e… ;))

Please answer my questions if you want help!

#7

I have been looking for a command to display video information. I do not have nor is it available via zypper ‘glxinfo’.
I can’t copy from sysinfo or yast system info either…
bear with me while i find a command to generate graphics info in console.

Reed.

#8

thank you for waiting…

I had to installe demo-x via yast… couldn’t find it with zypper…

here is what I get with glxinfo


# glxinfo | grep -i render
direct rendering: Yes
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on NV86
    GL_NV_conditional_render, GL_AMD_conservative_depth,

Reed.

#9

I’ve tried forcing updates to all my video files, everything.
Out of desperation, I did these 3 things.
Removed KXML, libffmpeg and downgraded flashplayer from 11.2.202.285 (installed in past 48 hours as a security update in Yast updater) to 11.2.202.280.

I click on any video file and VLC loads and plays the audio with this error message:


No suitable decoder module:
VLC does not support the audio or video format "h264". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this.

…

Now to re-install the pacman VLC files…
I’ll let you know what happens.

Reed.
ps. seems to be the ‘new’ (even though adobe said 280 was the last, so i don’t know where 285 came from (i installed from opensuse.org updates)).

just loaded yast update again and this is what the ‘update’ says:


 | openSUSE-2013-425|
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 References:
 


  - CVE-2013-2728 (cve) : http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2013-2728 
  - CVE-2013-3324 (cve) : http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2013-3324 
  - CVE-2013-3325 (cve) : http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2013-3325 
  - CVE-2013-3326 (cve) : http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2013-3326 
  - CVE-2013-3327 (cve) : http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2013-3327 
  - CVE-2013-3328 (cve) : http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2013-3328 
  - CVE-2013-3329 (cve) : http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2013-3329 
  - CVE-2013-3330 (cve) : http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2013-3330 
  - CVE-2013-3331 (cve) : http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2013-3331 
  - CVE-2013-3332 (cve) : http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2013-3332 
  - CVE-2013-3333 (cve) : http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2013-3333 
  - CVE-2013-3334 (cve) : http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2013-3334 
  - CVE-2013-3335 (cve) : http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2013-3335 
  - 819916 (bugzilla) : https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=819916 





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 This package contains Adobe's Flash Plugin for the supported Web browsers in addition to a standalone flash player application.
  • Someone needs to let someone else know, this could be an issue.
#10

what a mess…
I found that in addition to the ‘new’ flashplayer ~.285 being ‘bad’
with updates and having added VideoLan.org repository I had many files, libraries installed from 3 different repositories.
One needs to install VLC from One location, PacMan!
Some files would not update, downgrade to pacman so I had to go through them one at a time and see what dependency was stopping the up/downgrade and get those to change, one at a time.
files to look at and might not even be installed where libavutil, libswscal*, libavfilter3, libdvdcss and the codec …

Took some time but I’m back up and running with VLC (PacMan)…

Phew…
Reed.

#11

Well, the flash player also works fine here, you could try to disable hw acceleration. (see here: Adobe Community: How do I disable or enable hardware acceleration?). But this should not influence xine or VLC.
And you should never mix packages from different repos, i.e. VideoLAN and PackMan.

Seems like you use the nouveau driver. I would also suggest you to install the proprietary nvidia driver. Especially regarding 3D this one has better performance and is more stable.
SDB:NVIDIA drivers - openSUSE

#12

FYI… after getting everything back in order (again, do NOT mix repositories… I knew this as far back as ver 9, but…) I let YaST2 update flash and it works ‘here’ too.

wolfi323](https://forums.opensuse.org/members/wolfi323.html), you think I can use the nvida driver on a Dell Lat. D630? I’ll wait to ‘hear’ from you, because bad video means no system…

Thanks,
Reed.

#13

So it works now? Great! :wink:

because bad video means no system…

Not necessarily. If you don’t have /etc/X11/xorg.conf X will use auto-configuration and should just use another driver, even if you install the nvidia driver and it doesn’t work.

But yes, the nvidia driver should work on your notebook. You seem to have an NVIDIA Quadro 135M, which is still supported by the latest driver.
I personally wouldn’t trust the 1-click installer, I’d do it this way:

  • add the nvidia repo (open YaST->Software->Software Repositories, click on “Add”, select “Community Repositories” and activate the nVidia Repository)
  • then open YaST->Software->Software Management, search for “nvidia” and install the following packages:
    nvidia-gfxG03-kmp-desktop (check first which kernel you are using, if it’s kernel-default you would need nvidia-gfxG03-kmp-default, for kernel-pae you would need nvidia-gfxG03-kmp-pae instead)
    x11-video-nvidiaG03
    nvidia-computeG03 (should be selected automatically)

After a reboot, you should be using the nvidia driver then. (You can check with “glxinfo | grep render” as before)

#14

wolfi323, yeah, the ‘onclick’ messed me up, this time and i should have remembered, in the past.
After installing nvidia drivers from the link you provided, my system was essentially frozen. kde was unresponsive and it took minutes to get any action to happen. Ended up C+A+Del… Started in ‘failsafe’ and downloaded driver from NVIDIA driver site. Logged out, logged in as root to console.
Installed driver sh ./DriverName and allowed setup script to make changes to X-Server.
I’m back up and running, but graphics are still sluggish, or so it seems that before I started, as I knew it would. I’m not sure how to get it back the way it was, but… It works.

According to Xorg.0.log, I’m using the right driver Quadro NVS 135M, but i have the following:


    (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.



    27.228] (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libglamoregl.so: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libglamoregl.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_tls_Context
    27.228] (II) UnloadModule: "glamoregl"
    27.228] (II) Unloading glamoregl
    27.228] (EE) Failed to load module "glamoregl" (loader failed, 7)

and apparently, my video card or display does not support 3D… : (


    28.773] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Display (Seiko/Epson (DFP-0)) does not support NVIDIA 3D
    28.773] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     Vision stereo.
    28.776] (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU Quadro NVS 135M (G86) at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0)
    28.776] (--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 131072 kBytes
    28.776] (--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 60.86.68.00.16
    28.776] (II) NVIDIA(0): Detected PCI Express Link width: 16X

Thanks, anyways…
Landis.

#15

But that’s why I told you exactly what packages you should install. That way it should work at least as well, since the rpms install exactly the same driver. But you don’t have to take care of some things yourself like blacklisting the nouveau driver or recompiling the kernel module after a kernel update, and you can do it in normal runlevel 5 without problems.

According to Xorg.0.log, I’m using the right driver Quadro NVS 135M, but i have the following:

(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.

27.228] (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libglamoregl.so: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libglamoregl.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_tls_Context
27.228] (II) UnloadModule: "glamoregl"
27.228] (II) Unloading glamoregl
27.228] (EE) Failed to load module "glamoregl" (loader failed, 7)

That’s normal with the nvidia driver because it overrides some Mesa libraries. But you don’t need glamor anyway, that’s 2d acceleration over OpenGL and mostly needed for intel chips. The nvidia driver does contain its own 2d acceleration…
If you want to get rid of that error message, you could uninstall the package “glamor”, but it does no harm either.

and apparently, my video card or display does not support 3D… : (

28.773] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Display (Seiko/Epson (DFP-0)) does not support NVIDIA 3D
28.773] (II) NVIDIA(GPU-0):     Vision stereo.
28.776] (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU Quadro NVS 135M (G86) at PCI:1:0:0 (GPU-0)
28.776] (--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 131072 kBytes
28.776] (--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 60.86.68.00.16
28.776] (II) NVIDIA(0): Detected PCI Express Link width: 16X

Well, this is about “NVIDIA 3D Vision stereo”.
That’s real 3D with 3D glasses, see here: NVIDIA 3D Vision | NVIDIA
And the message means that your monitor doesn’t support it.

So you have a problem with sluggish video now? You didn’t post the interesting parts of your Xorg.0.log! :wink:
Please post the output of “glxinfo | grep direct” again to see if everything is working regarding the nvidia driver.

#16

lol… yeah, i did it 2am, without reading your reply first… .thank you and sorry.
“blacklisting the nouveau driver”… I should do that?
libdrm_nouveau2, xorg-X11-driver-video-nouveau are Still in ‘YasT2’ as installed. Also, a driver that I don’t remember before I used the ‘oneclick’ install, nvidia-gfxG03-kmp-default and Yast will Not let me remove it independent of anything else. Yast insists it is a dependency and puts it back in list (lastnight, this morning when I was trying to recover from ‘one click’ berfore waiting on your help… Sorry again).
Should I ‘un-install’ via YaST2, the ‘nouveau’ drivers? (… I’ll wait to ‘hear’ from you, this time)…

lol… ok, duh… “3D” (not vector rendering etc…)

Yes, the way my desktop seems is like when you use ‘smooth scrolling’ in firefox, there is a ‘smooth’ delay between a menu click, scroll, desktop or app ‘flip’ (Alt+tab, Ctrl+tab, etc). It’s like an animation effect of something like smooth fade in / out of windows (apps), but I don’t have such an effect running.

Here is the output:


 glxinfo |grep direct
direct rendering: Yes
    GL_EXT_Cg_shader, GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test, GL_EXT_direct_state_access,

wolfi323… Thank you very much for your time. I’ve noticed that most posts i’ve ‘found’ in regards to this and SaX are responded to, by you…
Reed.

#17

wolfi323, another thing i just remembered is that when the system was ‘freezing’ is that in ‘System Activity’ (Ctrl+Esc) “X” process was using 43 +% of processing and a Ton of memory…
It was Not ‘Xorg’, but “X”… It is now back to “Xorg” process.
Reed.

#18

Yes, otherwise the nvidia driver fails to load because the nouveau kernel module grabs the graphics card first.
But adding “nomodeset” to the boot options does the same effectively.
Also you do have “nouveau” blacklisted I guess, because you still have nvidia-gfxG03-kmp-default installed (that contains a blacklist file).

libdrm_nouveau2, xorg-X11-driver-video-nouveau are Still in ‘YasT2’ as installed. Also, a driver that I don’t remember before I used the ‘oneclick’ install, nvidia-gfxG03-kmp-default and Yast will Not let me remove it independent of anything else. Yast insists it is a dependency and puts it back in list (lastnight, this morning when I was trying to recover from ‘one click’ berfore waiting on your help… Sorry again).

So you have some remnants of the nvidia rpm packages still installed? That’s not a good idea…

I would advise to uninstall all incarnations of the nvidia driver again (all packages containing the string “nvidia” and the self-installed download from the NVIDIA website) and then install it again one way or the other.

You should also check if you have both kernel-desktop and kernel-default installed (can happen with the one-click install, that’s why I don’t recommend it ;)) and remove one of them. (I’d suggest to keep kernel-desktop)

Should I ‘un-install’ via YaST2, the ‘nouveau’ drivers? (… I’ll wait to ‘hear’ from you, this time)…

No, they don’t matter. The needed blacklist is about the kernel module not the X driver. And you can’t uninstall that…

Here is the output:

glxinfo |grep direct
direct rendering: Yes
GL_EXT_Cg_shader, GL_EXT_depth_bounds_test, GL_EXT_direct_state_access,

Your nvidia driver is running correctly now.

I guess your sluggish display could be caused by the Desktop Effects settings then.
Please check that in Configure Desktop(aka systemsettings)->Desktop Effects->Advanced:

  • Composite type should be set to “OpenGL”
  • Qt graphics system should be set to “Raster”
#19

X should be just a symlink to Xorg.
But I have just Xorg running here.

Don’t know who would have started “X” on your system…
But yeah, maybe this caused the freezes.

#20

I would advise to uninstall all incarnations of the nvidia driver again (all packages containing the string “nvidia” and the self-installed download from the NVIDIA website) and then install it again one way or the other…

You should also check if you have both kernel-desktop and kernel-default installed (can happen with the one-click install, that’s why I don’t recommend it ;)) and remove one of them. (I’d suggest to keep kernel-desktop)

Attempting to uninstall ‘kernel-default’ in Yast, says it want to also uninstall nvidia-gfxG01 and 03 as well.
Also, attempting to unistall xorg-x11-driver-video-nouveau I get a ton of other things Yast wants to uninstall including libkde4, libQtWebKit and kate-devel (I use Kate most of all my applications, to code) etc… ( you said “uninstall all ‘nvidia’ …” pacages). Should I really do this? Will they be ‘put back’ when I, from the console re-install " sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-319.17.run " that I downloaded from NVIDIA based on my exact GPU model (Quadra SNV 135M)?

I guess your sluggish display could be caused by the Desktop Effects settings then.
Please check that in Configure Desktop(aka systemsettings)->Desktop Effects->Advanced:

  • Composite type should be set to “OpenGL”
  • Qt graphics system should be set to “Raster”

There was effects for fade windows on Max / Min selected that I did not select .
And Qt was set to Native… I set Qt (back) to Raster and stuff happened and it said “16 destop effects could not be started”. Perhaps that is why I never noticed the fade in and out before… They weren’t running.

Again, Thank You!
What should I do about the xorg-x11 driver wanting to uninstall so much ‘stuff’?

Reed.