Arghhh! Install Help

I want to install without a cd.

Problems:

  • Followed this tutorial
http://www.instantfundas.com/2007/08/install-any-linux-distro-directly-from.html
  • Got an error saying “Something not found” , even though i typed in exact address to iso. :’(

Solution:
???

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psychokyd@hotmail.com 

Have you tried unetbootin and booting off an USB stick?

No i haven’t, please explain. :expressionless:

Well, simply go here:

UNetbootin - Homepage and Downloads

A bit lower you have instructions on how to accomplish this task, if that won’t work come back in here :slight_smile:

I understand that your motherboard supports booting off USB stick? ( i assume you know how to do this? )

No, i am completely new to Linux, have been trying to get help installing for the last 2 days! :’(

Just read the instructions there, they are pretty simple to follow. To boot with the USB stick most motherboards ned you to press F12 or some other button in order to get to the boot menu where you choose to boot off the USB stick.

So download and install unetbootin, follow instructions and post what have you done.

Okay, so i loaded iso , ran program, everything, brought me to the same place i was, i choose hard disk, it says enter something, but i don’t know what to enter in there. :\

It’s much easier to use the Live CD ISO, because it’s self-contained.

Just install it with unetbootin, run it, and it will let you install.

You can use the DVD (it sounds like that’s what you’re doing?), but you’d need to partition the drive first so that you can put a copy of the ISO somewhere for the installer to access. Goodness only knows why, but that’s the only way I’ve figured out how to do it…

If you want to do it this way, I’d suggest making an EXT partition that you aren’t going to install to, and putting the ISO in the root of the partition, and naming it ‘dvd.iso’. Then it should be easy enough to find.

Much easier, though, to just use the live CD iso…

Isnt the live cd just a demo, not full? :\

Nope.

It’s not exactly the same as the DVD, in the sense that the install scripts are slightly different. But if you install the live CD, then install all the software from the repos that would have been on the DVD, in theory you have an indistinguishable system (at least for practical purposes - I don’t doubt some of the clever folks might be able to tell the difference, but I digress…)

If it doesn’t work, come back, and someone will talk you through doing it the way you were doing it, but rest assured that there’s no real reason to prefer the DVD if the CD works, and you have high-limit broadband so can download stuff afterwards…

I will try that as a last resort… but for now much help would be appreciated.

So i used UNetbootin, did everything it told me in the directions, clicked reboot now, rebooted, went into my boot settings, chose UNetbootin, the opensuse install think came up, told me to make sure i had the cd in the slot , pressed esc out of it, picked first option (install) , went to hard disk, chose my drive, then it asked to put something in the bar, now thats where im stuck on now, i dont know what to put in.

Which ISO are you using? And what options does it give you when it boots? This doesn’t sound like the live CD to me…?

It should say ‘default’ or ‘openSUSE’ live or something very similar at the top. Pick that, and see what happens…

Loaded this iso “openSUSE-11.1-DVD-i586”

I honestly recommend using the Live CD ISO. Just run it through unetbootin like you have with the DVD, and it should be much easier…

Once you’re familiar with the system you can try the DVD ISO if you want to, but frankly, it normally makes no difference…

You know what? Im going to do that…this is way too complicated for no reason.

After reading this thread I can’t see any good reason not to use the Live CD or the install DVD in the fashion they were designed for either; viz boot off the disk and follow the bouncing ball.

That isn’t my recent experience. I think the DVD and the live CD are significantly different even after updates. I say this because:
a) The DVD download process + updating took some 11 hours on my system. The live CD download + updating took about 2 hours.
b) On my brother’s system I could not boot off live CD at all because of some video issue that I never got to the bottom of. I managed to get it to boot without a hitch via network install and a network live CD. Something different about the drivers? This install took about 6 hours with updates, which is probably about the same as the DVD as my brothers internet is twice as fast.
c) Some of the desktop stuff was different with the network install, such as choice of wallpapers.
d) I downloaded the dvd image and blew a dvd to install from on my PC. The install options are slightly different and the dvd offers KDE3.5.

My learning from this is that the live CD is significantly different from the dvd/net install and is good for a demo and quick install, but if you want the full monty you need to install from either dvd or over the network.

If you don’t have the means to blow a dvd image then buy one. Alternatively, the network install was pretty easy and the instructions worked for me. But you need to blow a net live CD - a cut-down live CD that manages the installation over the net.

You’ll note that I did say ‘if it works’.

I’ve heard plenty of people say that the DVD is more compatible - and it requires less RAM. But once you’ve got the system up and running, I would still contend that the differences are to all intents and purposes irrelevant. You can install KDE 3.5 if you so desire. Wallpapers… Let’s ignore that one :wink:

Net install might work - depends on the network card. I’ve had more luck with the Live CDs myself.

Point is, it sounds like he’s going for his first SUSE install (or maybe Linux install) via USB. Personally, on the assumption that it works on his hardware, I’d say he’s a lot better off doing that with the CD image, and installing anything else afterwards.

I am a newbie so I am in no position to know much about anything. Although, out of necessity, I do seem to have acquired a not inconsiderable understanding of GRUB in the last few weeks. :open_mouth:

Obviously the DVD install takes five times as long as the CD so there must be an awful lot of differences and presumably some are significant.

What I don’t know is how to go about finding out what the differences are or how to retrospectively upgrade a CD install so that it is the same as the DVD install.

Any ideas?

Linux Get list of installed software for reinstallation / restore software

You could try that - though I can’t verify it works (it might eat your system too…). (and I’m not rightly sure how you’d get the package list if you haven’t installed the DVD, as far as I know the repository is contained in compressed format, so you can’t just look in the ISO)

Unless you’re rolling out lots of installations though, I’m not sure you’d need to. If you find yourself wanting a package, install it… I’d bet money that most users don’t end up using half the stuff on the DVD. Virtual money, anyway… :wink:

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