ab@novell.com digitally signs every one of his messages with PGP which, if you don’t have his key, makes for a lot of gibberish at the end of his messages. Do you find it annoying or not?
>:)
Wouldn’t it be just easier to provide a link to it?
No way! I read every single line each time I see it just in case something has changed.
It’s the only excitement I get all week!
I have no life whatsoever :.
It’s just more separating of the wheat from the chaff. Very time consuming. Does that mean I have a life @growbag?
On 03/24/2009 kgroneman wrote:
> ab@novell.com digitally signs every one of his messages with PGP
> which, if you don’t have his key, makes for a lot of gibberish at the
> end of his messages.
Just get the key. Sheesh…
Uwe
I never understand what it is for. Nor do a lot of other users I think. I do a lot of scrolling through all those posts getting to the real text. But I always value that real part of his text.
Some are talking of having a key. I do not understand that. It is just a piece of text rendered on my web page. The browser does not seem to be impressed by it and asks for nothing. What key and where to put it?
I really don’t get this whole poll.
Is it annoying don’t really think it needed asking.
The real question if using the nttp which is similar to a mailing list and is managed by mail clients, should we dictate how they use it?
Are we going to next ask all web users to post in line and not bottom post and to quote everytime?
The decision to combine the community was made, it seems it has been far from smooth and I’m not sure it has ever settled. Trying to mix such different ways of viewing the forum always was going to have problems.
But I think it is wrong to begin to tell people how they should use it.
LOL You know my opinions, but it has happened.
I think the solution should be found server side and it is something we should never of been made aware off. I’m sure one of these clever coders can parse out the pgp sigs if they really are that bad.
They certainly are annoying but wouldn’t say there is enough to begin to tell users how to reply yet.
Are we suddenly expecting a a herd of nttp users with pgp enabled sigs to turn up soon.
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:06:01 +0000, FeatherMonkey wrote:
> Are we suddenly expecting a a herd of nttp users with pgp enabled sigs
> to turn up soon.
No. Most of us don’t seem overly concerned with our replies being
“forged”, which ab@novell.com has expressed is the reason he does this.
Personally, I think it’s silly. It’s not like we’re sharing national
secrets where identity needs to be firmly established.
Jim
I personally think it is silly to, but if a grown adult wants to put there coat on backwards and go outside, its not for me or anyone else to tell him he can’t, by all means tell them they look stupid.
Simply all this hoo haa over one persons pgp seems sillier.
To me and ask krongemann what I thought of combining the communities.
Correct me if I’m wrong beyond personal reasons for why, is it not normal for mailing lists to contain pgp sigs?
I just don’t see why he should modify his behaviour for web users. I’m sure many of the nttp users would like us to stop bottom posting, well I’m sorry I’m not going to.
Apologies kgroneman
Seem to have a dyslexic keyboard
It’s just a Poll. Keep your hair on. Correct me if I’m wrong, but how seriously do you think Kim wanted us to take this?
Talk about annoying. That Bug does my head in Kim. But I love it too. You wouldn’t be the same without it;).
Is it just a poll
/me wonders when he last saw ab post.
Regardless of pgp ab is an asset to this community and one worthy of keeping.
He posted and helped more often than a few mods.
Why is there no edit in this thread, now this is my biggest gripe with this forum editing.
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:46:01 +0000, FeatherMonkey wrote:
> I personally think it is silly to, but if a grown adult wants to put
> there coat on backwards and go outside, its not for me or anyone else to
> tell him he can’t, by all means tell them they look stupid.
>
> Simply all this hoo haa over one persons pgp seems sillier.
Well, it does make a difference if you know that Aaron and Kim (and
several other people involved in the “discussion”) work together. I know
Aaron as well, but have given up on trying to convince him that being the
lone person on OSF and the Novell forums who uses PGP signatures makes
him look silly. It just lowers his chances of his replies being read.
> To me and ask krongemann what I thought of combining the communities.
>
> Correct me if I’m wrong beyond personal reasons for why, is it not
> normal for mailing lists to contain pgp sigs?
Not from what I’ve seen, but NNTP != Mailing List.
> I just don’t see why he should modify his behaviour for web users. I’m
> sure many of the nttp users would like us to stop bottom posting, well
> I’m sorry I’m not going to.
Actually, bottom posting is the norm on NNTP in my experience. 
But top-posting vs. bottom posting does get a not insignificant amount of
discussion, both on mailing lists and in some newsgroups. I never
understood why.
Jim
It would be less of a deal on a true nttp and yes I know != but web users would struggle to see the differences.
I always saw all this happening and all the other little things that have happened.
nttp != web forum
I knew this and tried to explain it finally resigning as a moderator.
Simply put there would be no big deal and barely an eyebrow raised if this was just nttp but it is not.
Now I see you have 3 ways,
1)Ignore it and move on, I make posts I suspect get ignored and that is with out pgp. Let ab deal with being ignored it is his problem any way.
2)Tackle AB as he seems to be the only one(But what happens should someone else decide to I’m sure AB isn’t the only person in the whole wide world signing nttp posts). So I guess nttp policy of no sigs
3)You solve it server side and parse out all pgp sig.
Finally to take an office dispute to forum seems very wrong in my eyes.
All a bit of a ‘storm in a tea cup’ this. I might not like it much, but if he (ab) likes to do that, it’s ok with me.
What’s important here is the forum and the help it provides. ‘ab’ does some excellent work here - all praise for that!!
Thankyou caf4926
My point exactly.
And to go back to being ignored I have to admit when I first saw it actually instilled a little bit of fake confidence.
It says to me this is someone who takes his identity seriously, and is security aware.
So where you think it looks silly others may just think different.