are 2GB RAM enough to install 12.3?

Hi SuSE folks,

I have tried to make a new installation of OpenSuSE-12.3-i586
on a Pentium 4 M 1.7Ghz with only 2GB RAM.

I tried it three times,
but the installation process freezes in the mid of the installation process.
No Reaction on mouse and Keyboard.

It is possible that the 2 GB are not sufficient for the OpsneSuSE 12.3 installation process.
In my last version, (12.2) I use a 10GB swap disk.

I there a way to activate swapping during installation?

Yours,

  • Willy;)

2 gig is plenty it is most likely a video problem but with out more detail on where the freeze happens it is hard for anyone to tell. Also that is older hardware so it might be good to run the memory test on the first install menu. Allow to run over night any error indicates bad ram

@WillyFoobar

this pc only has 2GB RAM and the install went about the same
as another with 4GB RAM

the install was started and left for about 4 hours, the install was
expected to last about 90 minutes

on return keyboard and mouse were unresponsive

manually rebooted to a black screen and then had to alt-f1 to a terminal
to modify the Boot Loader via yast

thereafter rebooted to the login and kde desktop

more info is needed to help further

have fun

On 03/16/2013 04:26 PM, keellambert wrote:
>
> @WillyFoobar
>
> this pc only has 2GB RAM and the install went about the same
> as another with 4GB RAM
>
> the install was started and left for about 4 hours, the install was
> expected to last about 90 minutes
>
> on return keyboard and mouse were unresponsive
>
> manually rebooted to a black screen and then had to alt-f1 to a
> terminal
> to modify the Boot Loader via yast
>
> thereafter rebooted to the login and kde desktop
>
> more info is needed to help further

I installed openSUSE 12.3 on a netbook with 1 GB of RAM. KDE does not work well,
but LXDE is fine.

Here a desktop with about 740 MB. 2.3 with KDE. Works fine. I did not even switch off desktop effects :wink:

I installed openSUSE on an Athlon-1150 (which is slower than your P4 1.7GHz) also with only 2GB RAM. It works very nice with the LXDE desktop.

So 2GB is not the issue here.

Is it possible for you to be more precise as to where in the install process ? Do you have a digital camera ? Take a picture where it freezes next time, and post it here. If you know the screen will be all black when it freezes, then take some pictures just before the freeze. You can always delete the non-relevant pictures.

Note that if you have a PC with no Floppy drive, but the BIOS is set as if there is a floppy drive, the PC could end up sitting for ~30 minutes when it looks for GNU/Linux partitions. To all appearances it is frozen at that point, but it is not (frozen). Now that may not be what you encountered - likely you encountered something else, and with more detail we may be able to get this going for you :slight_smile:

Its possible your graphic card has caused an issue. That may require a different install/boot parameter to fix. Please, can you tell us what graphic card ?

Its possible you need to specify ‘nokms’ when installing in the initial menu prior to the install (under the video settings).

But without further detail this is hard to say.

I had that here with a system. Well, the floppy drive was there, but nevertheless the installtion hung on it. I detected this through looking at some of the other logical screens with Ctrl-Alt-F1 and F2 and a few more (forgot which one had the messages). After disabling in the BIOS, all went OK.

2 GB enough , just like my PC with Pentium D lol!
If it freezing while installing just make other CD or re-download the opensuse iso may it corrupted !

Hi SuSE folks,

yes, my Laptop has a floppy disk drive and it took about 5 minutes to check linux partitions.
But that was not the problem.
The computer freezed somewhere in the installation and
did not react on Keyboard (Num-&SHIFT-Lock) or to the Mouse
The Mouse indicator activity freezed, too.

Thank You for your tip: Next Time I will use LXDE and not KDE in the initial installation
Question: Is there any possibility to use a swap disk during installation???

As my laptop is the only I have at the moment,
and I have some presentation coming up,

I decided to POSTPONE the update to 12.3.
I will come back too this forum when I got a second PC.
This will be in 2 to 4 weeks.

Thank you very much for your help and suggestions

  • Willy.:wink:

P.S.: These are my graphic setup
Grafikkarte
Hersteller: S3 Inc.
Modell: ProSavage DDR-K
2D-Treiber: savage
3D-Treiber: Unbekannt Gallium (8.0.4)

On 2013-03-17 16:26, WillyFoobar wrote:
> Question: Is there any possibility to use a swap disk during
> installation???

It should be automatically found and used.

Otherwise, you can switch to a terminal (ctrl-alt-f2…f6) and there use
swapon to activate it if it is not active.


Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R.
(from 12.1 x86_64 “Asparagus” at Telcontar)

It is possible you need to use the ‘nokms’ option when installing, or possibly even a text installation, and only later setup the ProSavage graphics.

I do not know what you mean here. What do you mean by a ‘swap’ disk ?

You are taking about a 2GB RAM PC with a 10GB swap disk ? I do not understand that.

This leaves me with the distinct impression that your use of the word ‘swap’ is different than what is nominally considered when referring to a ‘swap’ partition. So what do you mean here wrt this 10GB disk ?

WillyFooBar said, he comes back to this thread in 2 - 4 weeks…

It will be graphical stuff, that denies installation, concerning to savage-graph-card.

I got the same problem with my ibmT23 with savage-graphics, solution I found is to boot up in vesa-mode from live-cd

Right now, I do not know if there is such - or similar - boot-option in opensuse, at least it worked out with manjaro-linux, which refused too boot up with default settings, bringing a broken screen; worked fine then with this vesa-option,

Martin

Savage graphic is a problem…

At the install try pressing F3 and select no KMS

I have successfully run 12.3 in 512 MB. It works, but I can’t recommend it :slight_smile:
Cheers,
Ake

IMHO it depends on the desktop GUI one chooses. I have 12.3 tumbleweed running on a laptop with a 1.6GHz intel CPU and 512MB of RAM. I chose the LXDE desktop (and not KDE nor Gnome) and LXDE runs well on this hardware.