just an idea off the top of my head maybe split application sections to gnome, xfce and kde ?
Hmm, Gnome applications work on KDE and vice versa, so if you are splitting by DE that may present difficulties for a user when allocating initial posts.
more than likely if a user has installed both desktops they will say app x doesnt work on desktop y because of problem z . Also more than likely most would know the difference what they have installed.
I was thinking more of the situation where a querying user runs a gtk app on KDE but most of the application expertize for it actually lies with Gnome users, who may ignore the KDE section, and to be fair in the reverse situation.
good point, but it could be easily moved. structurally thinking it would be easier for people and mods to concentrate on certain areas.
I will leave ease of movement for a Mod to comment on. Allocation of and sidelining of queries are my only concerns. I have also thought that Applications forum could be sub-divided in some way to improve focus, say dividing desktop component issues from real application program issues, but it’s not straightforward.
please dont leave! keep in touch, my first idea was more focus related, you just brought another good idea ,dividing desktop component issues from real application program issues could also be divided 
On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:36:01 +0000, Heremod wrote:
> good point, but it could be easily moved. structurally thinking it would
> be easier for people and mods to concentrate on certain areas.
In my experience, creating further divisions tends to make it more
difficult to determine where to post questions - since the applications
really don’t depend on the DE but rather the libraries.
The confusion that I would see would be if a user doesn’t know what DE an
application is created for, how would they select the appropriate forum?
Makes for a lot more moving of threads to get them in the right area.
Then you also have the applications that are DE agnostic, CLI apps, etc -
I don’t see a need to introduce complexity where simplicity works
better.
That said, appreciate the thoughts and the suggestion!
Jim
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In my experience, creating further divisions tends to make it more difficult to determine where to post questions - since the applications really don’t depend on the DE but rather the libraries. -----
Since the applications really don’t depend on the DE but rather the libraries. a lot of other sites tend to break it up , for general purposes , so many easy problems can be solved this way allowing supporters to concentrate on their specialty. lib problems and deps are of another matter between DE.
I wasn’t leaving, just leaving aside the issues of increased management for comment by those directly affected by it.
Since the applications really don’t depend on the DE but rather the libraries. a lot of other sites tend to break it up , for general purposes , so many easy problems can be solved this way allowing supporters to concentrate on their specialty. lib problems and deps are of another matter between DE.
So are you saying that other sites keep libraries and DE together, and split application programs away into a general bucket?
Heremod wrote:
> just an idea off the top of my head maybe split application sections to
> gnome, xfce and kde ?
i’d be happy if posters just included something like this in every
initial post with a help request:
11.2 64 KDE4.3
and, a useful subject line…
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:56:01 +0000, Heremod wrote:
> Since the applications really don’t depend on the DE but rather the
> libraries. a lot of other sites tend to break it up , for general
> purposes , so many easy problems can be solved this way allowing
> supporters to concentrate on their specialty. lib problems and deps are
> of another matter between DE.
I suppose that’s one way of looking at it - but from an end-user
perspective, knowing that Quanta is a KDE app, for example, isn’t quite
so obvious - or Banshee as a “GNOME” app. Makes for more moderator work
in relocating threads to the appropriate group, when the underlying
issues of library dependencies are handled the same way regardless of the
DE used (YaST software installation tool or zypper generally)
Jim
Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Moderator
How come that post of yours #6 wasn’t there when I made my posts #7 and #10 and the latter is timed almost an hour after yours? This happened elsewhere in another thread recently (not you though) when several suddenly separated mine and the one I replied to, after quite a lengthy time had elapsed since mine was submitted. :\ Any explanation?
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:06:01 +0000, consused wrote:
> Any explanation?
I posted mine after yours, I think, but I posted it through the NNTP
interface, and those messages are passed back and forth every 10
minutes.
Jim
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Just add up a bit, if poster add tags like “11.2 64 KDE3.5”,“11.2 64 KDE4.3”,“11.2 64 Gnome2.26”,“11.2 64 Gnome 2.28”,“11.2 64 Xfce4.61” etc etc… would also be helpful.
Can add tags now? is it still there?
I’d rather spin off some areas from the “application” forum. We alreday did that with “multimedia” and “games”, so why not create other subforums like “Graphics”, “Internet”, “Utilities” (this is not a concept, I’m just thinking along the application groups in my KDE application launcher
Uwe
> Any explanation?
my guess is your browser does not automatically update the page you
are looking at…that is, the http forum is not like a live, running
IM chat…
pressing F5 might cause the broswer to refresh the page, and pick up
all posts made since the time you first received it…
but, i’m not sure F5 is common to all browsers, nor do i know what you
are using, probably Lnyx, right? 
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On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:24:33 +0000, Uwe Buckesfeld wrote:
> I’d rather spin off some areas from the “application” forum. We alreday
> did that with “multimedia” and “games”, so why not create other
> subforums like “Graphics”, “Internet”, “Utilities” (this is not a
> concept, I’m just thinking along the application groups in my KDE
> application launcher
I see that as a much better division if one is needed - users generally
would be easily able to classify most applications by application type
rather than library dependencies.
Jim
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openSUSE Forums Moderator
On Wed, 11 Nov 2009 06:16:01 +0000, mmarif4u wrote:
> Can add tags now? is it still there?
I believe posts can still be tagged in the web interface - but getting
users to use it consistently is another matter, and those using NNTP have
no similar capability. But that doesn’t mean that those who are using
the web interface can’t use it if they desire.
Jim
Jim Henderson
openSUSE Forums Moderator
Thanks for replying. If your #6 was posted significantly after my #7 (and it sure looks that way) then that sounds like a bug in the forum system, doesn’t it? If your post comes in on nntp after a 10 min delay, your #6 should be well after my #7 (which should have been #6). I don’t see why this should happen, do you? What’s the next step?